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Suikoden Star Leap
Mobile game... they got the wrong message and the next Suikoden release that isn't a port remaster or remake is going to be a mobile game.
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Naku35 lähetti viestin:
Mobile game huh? I'm hyped and at the same a bit dissapointed. Maybe there will be a port for pc at one point? Btw, I wonder if it is a 4 or 6 party members, cause there is a pic with 4 but not a single with 6...

I spotted that as well. Either the battle scenes are too zoomed in or you really are limited to 4 characters given the amount of on screen realestate showcased. It also looks like your current party travels the map together and may interact with the people the main character talks to in the same way that your party in Baldur's Gate 3 does to add life to the interactions. Should be amusing if there is a character similar to Hallec from Suikoden III in the party. As a side note having Hallec play as Romeo in the Romeo and Juliet skit was hilarious no matter who played Juliet.

As far as porting it, I doubt one will appear any time soon. You'll likely need an Android emulator to play it on Windows PC. On Linux, Waydroid may be your best option to run Android apps. You may be able run it on a Raspberry Pi using an Android distro specific to Raspberry Pi hardware (LineageOS and Emteria.OS come to mind). I abhor Apple products so I wouldn't know if the iOS version would work natively on Macs.
I can't help but have the feeling that Konami is still making the same mistakes again... Suikoden 4 an Tierkres had a 4 party members and they were the most dissapointing ones in the Serie. Also, mobile game... Yea maybe have to use an emulator...
D. Seitaro lähetti viestin:
I think Konami misjudged what platforms their fans use to play games. SE also tried to bring their popular IPs to smartphones, and it didn't work well. I believe Star Leap will end up in the same way.

Visuals and character design look really good, but I don't see myself playing a Suikoden title on a phone.

Japanese players overwhelmingly play mobile games.
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S!lent lähetti viestin:
In two of the other mobile games, Suikoden Tierkreis (NDS) and Genso Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki (PSP), Jeane was NOT the Chiketsu Star. I'll still still hold out hope that this in not a main storyline game. And if I'm proven right, I will think back on this moment and laugh at all those doubted.
Keep the dream alive!

Okay, more and more likely this is a supporting game and not a main storyline game. From the interview:

Interviewer: Are we including past characters in the 108 stars this time?

Fujimatsu-san: Generally speaking, there are going to be 108 new Stars including the hero.

Interviewer: So whole new characters!

Fujimatsu-san: Yes. You will have a whole new story.

Interviewer: We will meet 108 new Stars there.

Fujimatsu-san: Yes. Yes

Interviewer: Maybe some battling alongside past characters?

Fujimatsu-san: That is also included. As mentioned the main story will take place in the same world, so you may encounter past characters and sometimes even team up with them. As a common aspect for mobile titles, you can also create a dream team with past characters.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on S!lent; 3.3. klo 23.44
disappointing. f2p mobile games are a mixed bag in japanese game industry recently. fire emblem is successful while atelier reslerana already closed after one year.

I'm hoping this game will be successful to serve as a fund for more console/pc suikoden type of game
Did someone pay attention?
They talked about an anime, a concert, a stage and a new mobile game.
And they said all that is step two, being step one the Suikoden 1&2 remasters.
Also, they want to build a strong comeback for suikoden, hence step 1&2.
They also want steps 3 and 4,
This is Konami, not known for showing love to Suikoden but this is also not your typical pachinko and merch event.
This is commercial strategy for "a strong comeback", and even if i am not into mobile games, I cant help but notice this is going somewhere, should things go/sell well.
jomigaru lähetti viestin:
Did someone pay attention?
They talked about an anime, a concert, a stage and a new mobile game.
And they said all that is step two, being step one the Suikoden 1&2 remasters.
Also, they want to build a strong comeback for suikoden, hence step 1&2.
They also want steps 3 and 4,
This is Konami, not known for showing love to Suikoden but this is also not your typical pachinko and merch event.
This is commercial strategy for "a strong comeback", and even if i am not into mobile games, I cant help but notice this is going somewhere, should things go/sell well.

The concert will bring back fans to the series because the music incredible. This has the greatest potential because you don't have to have played the games to appreciate the music.

Their intention with anime is to bring in new fans who haven't played the older games (specifically Suikoden I/II) and introduce a new perspective towards events for older fans to ponder. Given the high quality of the animation from the visual novels and the intro of Suikoden III they had better not be cheap with the animes animation quality. That of course is secondary as to whether or not the director can effectively convey the established story from the games through the anime. This could go very well or end up very bad.

The new game is meant as a modern entry point into the game series without molesting whats already been established. The problem (ftom my older perspective) is that its on a mobile platform. However, if I approach this with the understanding that a mobile phone is just a modern day handheld gaming system (i.e. PSP, GBA, NDS, etc) then it I imagine it could work. Gameplay and story will be what determines success or failure as with any single player game. Also, in the interview they stated they recorded 150 pieces of orchestra music for this mobile game. So this isn't your typical mobile game as far as scope is concerned. The inclusion of gachapon elements is not promising however.

The stage play is going focus on Suikoden I's main character and attempt to portray his tragic fate. Success or failure boils down to the production and execution.

So we have one likely success in the concert, two medium budget maybe's (anime & stage play), and a BIG budget maybe (large scope mobile game).
Viimeisin muokkaaja on S!lent; 4.3. klo 1.39
Worth noting, on the "things we showed off" slide (1:17:10 mark) at the end of the stream.

https://youtu.be/TIjGwGAJJ4s

Star Leap was listed as "Suikoden STAR LEAP the mobile Ver."

So I'm hoping that means a PC / Console version is in the cards, at least.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Saga Saga; 4.3. klo 2.13
Saga Saga lähetti viestin:
Worth noting, on the "things we showed off" slide at the end of the stream. Star Leap was listed as "Suikoden STAR LEAP the Mobile Ver."

So I'm hoping that means a PC / Console version is in the cards, at least.

If you're referring to the summary placard @ 1:17:18 that literally reads:

Mobile Game Genso Suikoden STAR LEAP (モバイルゲーム 幻想水滸伝 STAR LEAP)
Viimeisin muokkaaja on S!lent; 4.3. klo 2.54
Should've specified it was summary slide from the English stream.

Probably doesn't mean anything, but I'm hopeful regardless.
The Mobile Game takes place right before Suikoden 1 and has you revisiting many familiar locations like Gregminster ( which is in 3D) among other places, and we will get to see some of the famous characters from 1 again like Flik and others.

I think we should give it a fair shot, it really looks like they are putting a lot of effort into this game, a lot more than any of the spin offs. Perhaps they chose mobile to reach the most customers since everyone has a smart phone but not everyone has a pc/console.

Although I do agree it's a very risky move, but perhaps Konami didnt want to spend too much money until they know for sure people are willing to spend it too.
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I think we should give it a fair shot, it really looks like they are putting a lot of effort into this game, a lot more than any of the spin offs. Perhaps they chose mobile to reach the most customers since everyone has a smart phone but not everyone has a pc/console.

Exactly. Aiming for a greater audience. From a commercial stretagegy point of view, seems a wise move.
Would I have preferred a pc/console Suikoden 6? Hell yeah, but I dont get why so much negativity about all these news...Konami is paying attention to Suikoden after 15-16 years, almost 20 years if we count since Suikoden 5.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on jomigaru; 4.3. klo 3.50
Whatever, right? We got the HD Remasters we've been craving for on all platforms.
Hopefully the mobile game is more of a demo/feeler for what can be done.

I just want 3-5 remastered now but that will take an age considering the engines involved.
It could be worse, I suppose.

They could've taken a shot at WoW/FFXIV with a Suikoden MMO with a cash shop loaded down with cosmetics and what not.

Or a Suikoden version of TF2/Overwatch/MRivals filled with loot boxes.

Depending on how predatory the gacha elements are, and power creep, a Suikoden mobile game might NOT be the worst thing ever. I don't have a great deal of faith, but the music and visuals all looked very promising. If nothing else, it looks like a good game is buried in it.
After Atelier gacha being closed I don't think that Suikoden can handle a candle, this series isn't Fire Emblem.

What enrage me the most is that probably they delayed Suiko release last year to be released now along of those revelations only to generate hype, at least for me it backfired because I'm not interested on gachas, maybe if this was 10 years ago I would give a try, I already have gacha-burn.
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After Atelier gacha being closed I don't think that Suikoden can handle a candle, this series isn't Fire Emblem.

What enrage me the most is that probably they delayed Suiko release last year to be released now along of those revelations only to generate hype, at least for me it backfired because I'm not interested on gachas, maybe if this was 10 years ago I would give a try, I already have gacha-burn.

The whole thing reminds me to much of when bilzzard announced diablo immortal, fans wanted a sequel or remaster and we get a bad looking mobile game and it feels like an out of season April fools joke. Much disappointment
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