Hard Mode - too easy?

[NecessaryPain]

Do we have a more detailed breakdown of Hard Mode, yet?

Suikoden was never really too challenging apart from the odd boss fight. I am only a few hours into Suikoden 1 and so far it's been incredibly easy. Am I missing something here? I still love the games but was really looking forward to a challenge.

Does it get harder?

[Ju]

I’ve noticed the difficulty is high around the Elf portion of the story.

[AshaMarie]

Some say it was barely an increase in enemy HP for hard mode. There may be some increase in all stats and chance of debuffs on the enemy's part. It's a little more noticeable around the elf parts yea, but the real problem is you can get Kai at this point and once you recruit Kai, it's GG because that unite attack with Kai and the Hero is still extremely overpowered.

[PopCornFlakes]

Hard mode is a joke , especially when you know the game .
Also noticed there are less battle on map and dungeons .
They may have increase the damage and boss HP , like the zombie dragon and thats it.
Also the wheel of chance at Lepants take you straight to the exit 1st try lol

Yes thanks to Kai battle unit , it would be boring without him

[Shiro]

How far are the people who are playing on hard mode, because most games hard difficulty tends to spike up at different parts of the games.

I would be more curious about people who have reached Antei\Tien\Rikon on hard mode, as thats when the difficulty really starts to spike up in the originals with those frogs swallowing your party members and doing mega damage

[HxRaider]

i restart my game on hard because i thought the normal was like the PS1 version, but apparently it was too easy even on normal, on Hard i think it was similar to PS1 difficulty i guess, so nothing change much, they just nerf the game

[NecessaryPain]

That's really disappointing to hear. Why didn't they go the extra mile and make a proper Hard or Very Hard mode? We die-hards need this!

[Shujinko]

Publicado originalmente por Shiro:

How far are the people who are playing on hard mode, because most games hard difficulty tends to spike up at different parts of the games.

I would be more curious about people who have reached Antei\Tien\Rikon on hard mode, as thats when the difficulty really starts to spike up in the originals with those frogs swallowing your party members and doing mega damage

I finished S1 already and people are right. Hard mode is still easy. It will be easier for S2 since you can cheese it with 3 open rune slots characters.

Too bad hard mode here only means more HP and damage.

[Ashuran]

There were parts that was hard but i think I am over leveled a bit because I like using a lot of heroes. Hence grinded a bit for money etc. For me the difficulty is ok so far. Not too easy but not too hard at the moment.

[PopCornFlakes]

the real hard work is to farm money in order to upgrade all the characters weapons and outfits

[Vex]

Publicado originalmente por Shiro:

How far are the people who are playing on hard mode, because most games hard difficulty tends to spike up at different parts of the games.

I would be more curious about people who have reached Antei\Tien\Rikon on hard mode, as thats when the difficulty really starts to spike up in the originals with those frogs swallowing your party members and doing mega damage

I'm at that region myself right now. I've never seen frogs in this area, though. Did you mean the pitcher plant enemies?

I wouldn't say the region is all that different from the original game. Even with Kai, you're not destroying everything in one go, but you weren't in the old game, either. Enemies around this time had enough HP to survive that unite.

As far as I can tell, they've got more HP. I couldn't say whether or not they do more damage, as I'm not noticing a difference, or enough of a difference, to say for sure. Bosses don't seem all that different to me, either.

[StoneofTriumph]

Publicado originalmente por HxRaider:

i restart my game on hard because i thought the normal was like the PS1 version, but apparently it was too easy even on normal, on Hard i think it was similar to PS1 difficulty i guess, so nothing change much, they just nerf the game

Normal is the PS1 version's difficulty- It's just that Suikoden 1 was never an especially difficult game.

[Owlcoholic]

Publicado originalmente por Shiro:

How far are the people who are playing on hard mode, because most games hard difficulty tends to spike up at different parts of the games.

I would be more curious about people who have reached Antei\Tien\Rikon on hard mode, as thats when the difficulty really starts to spike up in the originals with those frogs swallowing your party members and doing mega damage

I just finished the game on hard, I didn't struggle at any point in the game and I'm not someone who min-maxes or who's great at games in general. Especially towards the end, enemies could deal out a lot of damage per turn, but you can just heal it back up again. I basically had cleo casting her group heals every turn during boss fights and that was it.

Starting on Suikoden 2 soon, I'm hoping there will be a bit more challenge on hard mode there but I'm fine even if there isn't, I'm mostly here for the nostalgia, story, music etc anyway

[Ray Rook]

The hard fights before are hard now.
The easy fights are still easy.

There were a couple hard spots in Suikoden 1 that are just that much harder now unless you know how to prepare. Zombie Dragon and not taking magic or shopping in all the towns in the area. The mechanical dolls having high defense. Not getting Kai or using rune fragments.

[Enclave]

Publicado originalmente por StoneofTriumph:

Publicado originalmente por HxRaider:

i restart my game on hard because i thought the normal was like the PS1 version, but apparently it was too easy even on normal, on Hard i think it was similar to PS1 difficulty i guess, so nothing change much, they just nerf the game

Normal is the PS1 version's difficulty- It's just that Suikoden 1 was never an especially difficult game.

This, both Suikoden 1 and 2 I'd argue both are quite easy games on PSX so I'm not expecting hard mode to actually be particularly difficult.

[king_of_jamaica]

Not sure if it was because of hard mode or just the worst RNG imaginable, but I had zero issues with the game until the Zombie Dragon. That boss did nothing but his breath attack, so every turn my party was taking 60-100 damage to each member, which is impossible to heal through.

After that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I gave up for the night. I'll get back to it this afternoon and hopefully that boss actually lets me fight back.