So next will be the remake of 3, 4 and 5???

[kantal]

???

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

They still need to see Positive Reviews and Reaction and Profits based on this game, their upcoming Anime based on Suikoden 2 and their Gacha game named Suikoden STAR LEAP.
3-4-5-Tactics may or may not come also depends on the Director of the game series in charged.

[Nall]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Little Fishy:

I THINK they intend to see if they can make funding for future remakes using that Star Leap game they're releasing on mobile. The stream insinuated that if that game is received well, then they'll look at possibly remaking the other games? (At least that's the impression I got)

JP gacha games always live fast and die fast. Only the ones that attract the biggest whales survive and that doesn't mean anything for the series. Once the money dries up they mothball them and pretend they never existed.

But there was a Star Ocean gacha, a Breath of Fire gacha, and a Wild ARMs gacha and they didn't mean ♥♥♥♥ for the future of those series.

Also, 3 is bad, 4 is worse, and 5 is the only other good game in the series. Tactics is alright, certainly better than the game it was based on, but it's nothing amazing.

[DirtyMick]

That's the hope.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nall:

But there was a Star Ocean gacha, a Breath of Fire gacha, and a Wild ARMs gacha and they didn't mean ♥♥♥♥ for the future of those series.

Man I miss that Star Ocean Gacha. Was super happy pulling the Nier Collab and they absolutely wreck the game difficulty with their damage numbers.
Also wtf didn’t know there was a BOF Gacha let alone a WA.

[WeissRook]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Daremo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jinzo:

3 and 4 not worth the time investment lets be honest

Suikoden 3 is arguably the best one for some people (including me) thanks to its extremely good narration structure, interesting mechanics and many other details.
3 is epic with its scenario you discover through several points of view, 2 adult protagonists and one decent kid, the skills to customise warriors in different ways and of course the theater.

It has its downsides and is much more experimental than your more classic jrpg but that can be a huge strength.

I really hope 3, 4 and 5 are remastered.
4 might need some QoL as I vaguely remember it having some big issues.

The problems I have with 3 are the fact that Hugo should have been the only option for the MC, with the other 2 maybe being highlighted as side stories. The ongoing theme fits Hugo vastly more than the other two. The other is the giant character change for the '4th' viewpoint character.

4 was okay, but god I hate boat travel in games. Here, lets grind while the scenery doesn't really change. Snore. The rest was generally okay, except this is also where they abandoned the ongoing story to do prequels and stuff only remotely related.

5 was great, but still suffered from being a prequel.

[Shujinko]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nall:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Little Fishy:

I THINK they intend to see if they can make funding for future remakes using that Star Leap game they're releasing on mobile. The stream insinuated that if that game is received well, then they'll look at possibly remaking the other games? (At least that's the impression I got)

JP gacha games always live fast and die fast. Only the ones that attract the biggest whales survive and that doesn't mean anything for the series. Once the money dries up they mothball them and pretend they never existed.

But there was a Star Ocean gacha, a Breath of Fire gacha, and a Wild ARMs gacha and they didn't mean ♥♥♥♥ for the future of those series.

Also, 3 is bad, 4 is worse, and 5 is the only other good game in the series. Tactics is alright, certainly better than the game it was based on, but it's nothing amazing.

Live fast and die fast huh. Funny opinion when Fate Grand Order still exist and alive until now

[Daremo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von WeissRook:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Daremo:

Suikoden 3 is arguably the best one for some people (including me) thanks to its extremely good narration structure, interesting mechanics and many other details.
3 is epic with its scenario you discover through several points of view, 2 adult protagonists and one decent kid, the skills to customise warriors in different ways and of course the theater.

It has its downsides and is much more experimental than your more classic jrpg but that can be a huge strength.

I really hope 3, 4 and 5 are remastered.
4 might need some QoL as I vaguely remember it having some big issues.

The problems I have with 3 are the fact that Hugo should have been the only option for the MC, with the other 2 maybe being highlighted as side stories. The ongoing theme fits Hugo vastly more than the other two. The other is the giant character change for the '4th' viewpoint character.

4 was okay, but god I hate boat travel in games. Here, lets grind while the scenery doesn't really change. Snore. The rest was generally okay, except this is also where they abandoned the ongoing story to do prequels and stuff only remotely related.

5 was great, but still suffered from being a prequel.

Huge no to that for me.
If anything Hugo was the one I was the least interested in, if I had to really compare.

I loved that I could get to know the 3 of them and choose.
It was a welcomed originality (with the trinity system) that I wish I could see more.

I think it's really captivating to jump between point of views.

3-4 teams has great advantages as well. It makes you play a good amount of heroes as main characters and gives different atmospheres so there's more chance the player can find at least one part they appreciate.

I like that it makes the game less predictable in some ways. Too bad it's not something you see much, at least in games I know.

[Shujinko]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Daremo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von WeissRook:

The problems I have with 3 are the fact that Hugo should have been the only option for the MC, with the other 2 maybe being highlighted as side stories. The ongoing theme fits Hugo vastly more than the other two. The other is the giant character change for the '4th' viewpoint character.

4 was okay, but god I hate boat travel in games. Here, lets grind while the scenery doesn't really change. Snore. The rest was generally okay, except this is also where they abandoned the ongoing story to do prequels and stuff only remotely related.

5 was great, but still suffered from being a prequel.

Huge no to that for me.
If anything Hugo was the one I was the least interested in, if I had to really compare.

I loved that I could get to know the 3 of them and choose.
It was a welcomed originality (with the trinity system) that I wish I could see more.

I think it's really captivating to jump between point of views.

3-4 teams has great advantages as well. It makes you play a good amount of heroes as main characters and gives different atmospheres so there's more chance the player can find at least one part they appreciate.

I like that it makes the game less predictable in some ways. Too bad it's not something you see much, at least in games I know.

I agree with Hugo part. He's just there to fill the teenager MC like the previous Suikoden. It makes more sense if Lucia is the MC and Hugo is the one who die not Lulu. Plus her rivalry with Chris and grassland and zexen conflict makes her position as MC makes sense.

[Owlcoholic]

Suikoden 3 is the only one in the series I couldn't bring myself to complete. I've tried a few times and I'm not even sure what it is, but it just doesn't click with me. I find myself bored and stop playing several hours in every time.
Which is weird because I've finished Suikoden 4 about 4-5 times and everyone else despises that one haha... I think if 3 was remastered I would give it one last try though and try to stick it through

[Mythophile]

I would buy them all.

[valium]

3 was great, 4 was flawed but still really good, and 5 is the best. I am hoping this remaster collection sells a billion copies so they are motivated to remaster the rest.

[Owlcoholic]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von valium:

3 was great, 4 was flawed but still really good, and 5 is the best. I am hoping this remaster collection sells a billion copies so they are motivated to remaster the rest.

As far as I know, this remaster was step 1 in their Suikoden revival plan. Step 2 is the mobile game, manga and anime so if they go well then they'll move to step 3 which would be new mainline games and maybe remaster/remakes of the rest of the series too? When they were asked if they are considering any more Suikoden remasters they said 'no comment', which usually means 'if we get enough money and interest'

[Tyrant]

They can remaster 3, yeet 4 into the void, and remaster 5, then start working on 6.

[fiendishdevil]

3 has the best intro of all the series

[Taika]

I loved 3... and judging by other posts here, so did a lot of others, though praise doesn't seem as universal. I didn't love the gameplay changes, but it advanced the overall story and gave tantalizing ideas for the future... that to my great disappointment were never delivered on, and presumably due to Murayama's departure, all that came after were prequels or spinoffs. But for that reason, I personally liked 3 a lot more than 5 - the story just felt more significant. So my favorite order might actually be - 2, 3, 1, 5, 4

So for those reasons I too would love to Remasters of the rest, especially 3. Others had suggested remaking 3 in the same art style as 2 and I'd be totally fine with that, especially since it was the story I liked best. It sounds like a lot of work, but hey, it looks like they put it into the gacha, so why not a real game?

And then of course, continue the dang series and story! No more prequels!!