Any way to not have characters die in army battles?

[cowbell]

That bastard Luc caused many resets because losing just once caused him to die, so I had to win every RPS match.

[Vex]

Sure there's a way. It's really easy, too.

Use your Thieves/Ninjas, and don't have your power house god-mage, Luc, attack when the enemy is going to counter him.

[MahouKurein]

Uhm... Don't quote me on it, but I read they got rid this feature for the remaster as it didn't fit the JRPG genre. I may be wrong tho.

Take it with a BIG grain of salt, 'cause I have this vague memory about it.

Edit: I'm obviously talking about perma death - not the war battles.

[BulletFaith]

i keep seeing this topic, i played the game multiple time as a teenager and never lost a character if a unit got killed in the war mini game... or maybe i never lost a unit , can't remember. But i know for sure i would have notice i could not use a character after the mini game.

[ClockDownRMe]

Originally posted by MahouKurein:

Uhm... Don't quote me on it, but I read they got rid this feature for the remaster as it didn't fit the JRPG genre. Suikoden 2 is also the only one featuring it...? I may be wrong tho.

Take it with a BIG grain of salt, 'cause I have this vague memory about it.

I have absolutely no idea where you read that. Army battles are like the defining trait of the entire Suikoden franchise and have featured prominently in every single trailer for the Remastered collection of Suikoden 1 and 2. Nothing's been removed from these remasters, let alone something as important and integral as the army battles.

[MahouKurein]

Originally posted by ClockDownRMe:

Originally posted by MahouKurein:

Uhm... Don't quote me on it, but I read they got rid this feature for the remaster as it didn't fit the JRPG genre. Suikoden 2 is also the only one featuring it...? I may be wrong tho.

Take it with a BIG grain of salt, 'cause I have this vague memory about it.

I have absolutely no idea where you read that. Army battles are like the defining trait of the entire Suikoden franchise and have featured prominently in every single trailer for the Remastered collection of Suikoden 1 and 2. Nothing's been removed from these remasters, let alone something as important and integral as the army battles.

Ok something isn't clicking here. What are you talking about? 'Cause I am talking about PERMA DEATH not the war themselves! lol

[Vex]

Originally posted by BulletFaith:

i keep seeing this topic, i played the game multiple time as a teenager and never lost a character if a unit got killed in the war mini game... or maybe i never lost a unit , can't remember. But i know for sure i would have notice i could not use a character after the mini game.

The only character I ever lost was Eileen, Lepant's wife, and that's because the charge isn't a 100% counter. When the enemy chooses archers, they deal damage back, unlike when they charge face first into Luc's magic, or they try to cast in the face of a rain of arrows.

[Blackdark]

Don't lose a RPS match during war battles and you'll be fine.

[Ray Rook]

Ridley is another one that is difficult to keep alive in Suikoden 2, but FYI that it's possible.

[ClockDownRMe]

Originally posted by MahouKurein:

Originally posted by ClockDownRMe:

I have absolutely no idea where you read that. Army battles are like the defining trait of the entire Suikoden franchise and have featured prominently in every single trailer for the Remastered collection of Suikoden 1 and 2. Nothing's been removed from these remasters, let alone something as important and integral as the army battles.

Ok something isn't clicking here. What are you talking about? 'Cause I am talking about PERMA DEATH not the war themselves! lol

Oh, well that makes a lot more sense then. The only change that I've seen so far with that kind of impact has been the optional removal of event timers. But I could definitely see them potentially making permadeath an aspect of the difficulty settings, present on normal and hard, no permadeath on easy. We'll find out in just a few hours at this point.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

weird, i don't remember Army Battles being Hard let alone even lose.
Maybe my memory is hazy back in 2001.
I was only like 7years old but I'm pretty sure all the Army Battle in both S1 and S2 are easy.

[godserge]

get gud

[godserge]

suikoden 2 is full of fights you think you are meant to lose but you can win, as far as field battles you need to recruit all possible units before the fights take place to help you in the fight this will help greatly in not getting your characters perma killed

[godserge]

getting characters wounded is okay but if they die they be dead for good , same as original suikoden 1 and 2