If this sales well i think well get SUIKODEN 3 - 5 Remaster.

[Venas]

Just my speculation, if this goes well and the game sales well (maybe 1 million copies sold in a year(cope)) I think Konami might consider remastering the other Suikoden games as well.

[Duradan]

Originally posted by MadB@t:

Unless they decide to make a full remake of 3 and 4 and not just a remaster, no one knowing the license would touch the games.
Suiko 3 made the switch to fugly 3d graphics likewise to those of FF7 because that game sold so well and it was a huge debacle.
It was ugly horrible 3D from early psx2 era.

Then came suiko 4 with it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boring story, zero link to any other suiko timewise and the graphics were barely better but completely washed of any life. Everything was dull and grey.

While I agree 3/4 should get full remakes to bring it back do to series tone. #3 wasnt as bad as your saying lol.

4 on the other hand had a lot of issues, story, boring graphics, too many plain heroes (except a few, as one of my favorites in is 4 Mitsuba), and the grind. But the "zero link to any other suiko timewise" is so wrong. It took place 150 years before Suikoden 1. You could also find Ted in Suikoden 4 and free him which is canon. Also if you would read the books in Suikoden 1,2,3,5. it talks about the island nation and the war that happened.

[Duradan]

Originally posted by babobaka:

Originally posted by JackPS9:

The Director has stated they want to bring us more Suikoden games, starting with this, an Android/iPhone game and an anime.

I am guessing that phone game will be gacha game won't it?

Also not sure about anime. Many games that turned to anime lost a lot of charm in transition. Pheonix Wright for example turned out to be quite dull anime compared to the game.

Unless they make proper adjustment to the story, I doubt anime transition will be done well enough to bring any excitement.

Gacha will be in Star Leap, but its confirmed to only be in events, Extra Heroes outside the story (ie: Pahn, Georg, ect ect. To allow you to build dream parties) and cosmetics. The story will be about the same length as Suikoden 2, and all 108 heroes are recruitable, along with HQ building. It also takes place few years before Suikoden 1 and you will get to see a lot of Odessa backstory also

[cimerians]

All three PS2 games weren't all that great but I did sort of like the 3rd, the 5th was best, both are way better than the 4th, controlling that ship was dreadful and having that as your home base was lame (as was the 'story' ).

All three were a departure from the top down 2D based games I wanted so I'm not going to sit here and say I want to see these remastered or whatever. Remade possibly but I highly doubt they'll ever do that. Tactics was fairly average and the Game Boy game Tiekreis was just not a Suiko game in my opinion.

[hush]

hopefully! but i prefer remake or sequel. graphics in those PS2 games doesn't age that well. but maybe i'm wrong

[Venas]

Im playing S2 first and so far I'm really enjoying the game. I like how the footsteps sound different on the ground, grass, etc. Small detail but I really love it.

[Duradan]

Originally posted by Venas:

Im playing S2 first and so far I'm really enjoying the game. I like how the footsteps sound different on the ground, grass, etc. Small detail but I really love it.

Missing out on bringing over your save from S1 to S2?

[Venas]

Originally posted by Duradan:

Originally posted by Venas:

Im playing S2 first and so far I'm really enjoying the game. I like how the footsteps sound different on the ground, grass, etc. Small detail but I really love it.

Missing out on bringing over your save from S1 to S2?

I know it, I know you can bring mcdohl to s2. Im just not really fan of S1.

[gullars93]

oh interesting topic. There are alot of factors to consider when remaking games.
how much interest is there around the game. ie potential buyers.
what's the cost of remaking/remastering it.
Look at ff7 problary the most popular ff game. Yet the most remastered/remade game is ff4 due it problary needing a lower budget to remake. while still being popular

So 4 is not the most beloved, and if they remade it they would problary have to take some liberties with the systems.

3 and 5 would need graphicals updates, But I think the overall combat system in both of them are mostly fine.
they could offcourse go the interesting route and try to remake 3,4,5 in the pixel style of 1-2, as that way they could reuse some assets and system and cut costs.

but they are making moves for building interest around the IP with the anime, if that turns out to be just for the gacha or if they will announce a new game with the anime we will just have to wait and see.

[d_mac]

I have loved this series since it was new. Bought it opening day at 3 am and played S1 start to finish in one sitting. May end up buying it on a few different platforms. Will always support this series and hope they remaster all if them. I might have a joygasm if this series ever gets an FF7 treatment.

[Headinbagus]

Should have just remastered 1-5 in one pack instead of $70 for two old-ass games I can play for free.

[babobaka]

Originally posted by Mugiwara:

I have to partially disagree. This games is perfectly set up for anime. That said and this is why I only partially disagree it still has to be done well.

There is enough content, enough lore, enough world building, it absolutely could work in theory. There are also seven games to fall back on and alot of countries in the lore that have never been touched upon. If I understand correctly they are starting the anime with second game. That might seem strange in the first instance, but it's a smart move as it has the strongest story.

Sure, I think there is contents there that can turn out to be good, but I'd say Phoenix Wright also had plenty of materials to be a good anime, but the end result was not that.

That is because story telling method between game and story is different.

In order to make proper story for anime, they will have to make necessary changes. That requires not only the talent to do so, but care. Someone needs to be really into Suikoden's story itself to make that transition.

Would most anime director show that kind of care? I doubt it. Most directors won't be passionate enough on a project that is not their own creation.

I expect 2 outcomes:

- Outcome #1: anime director with passion, but passion often also means being prideful. They would want to make their own imprints to the story, and change the source material too much in order to turn it into his own creation.
- Outcome #2: anime director that plays it safe. Just make sure the list of event plays out similar to the game as much as possible, without any care how it is being being presented on the screen. Phoenix Wright was this.

The best outcome will be if a talented passionate director that is also passionate fan of the source material takes over. So much of a fan to the source material, the authenticity of the source material being more important than their pride, while not being satisfied unless that feeling and emotion he felt in the game is perfectly translated into anime.

Yeah such director taking over is unlikely. Which means we can only expect either outcome#1 or outcome#2.

I think perfect example of this is Fullmetal Alchemist. That anime had 2 versions. Initial FMA vs Brotherhood. You can see the care that was put into the initial release, but initial FMA went off to do it's own thing, and diverged enough to get that awful multi-verse ending. Brotherhood follows the original manga story, but you do not see the care that was put into initial anime version, and in comparison it felt flat.

Between the 2, I'd prefer outcome #1, because outcome #2 always results in dull anime. However, outcome #1 has too high potential of pissing fans off. Either way, I doubt they will be able to create an anime that will satisfy most fans. If anime actually turns out well, I'll be pleasantly shocked.

[king_of_jamaica]

Suikoden III needs a remake more than a remaster. I love the game, it's my favorite of the series, but the paired battle system needs to be removed.