Now that Eiyuden Chronicles Flopped Hard. It's up to Suikoden to Make Gaming Great Again

[Odessa Silverberg]

SAVE US KONAMI

[Mochan]

Eiyuuden wasn't a bad game. It definitely wasn't an amazing game but it was still really good. It just had some.... stupid design decisions like trash tier puzzle dungeons, fishing for wheel-eyed fish, 30 minute boss battles and a bunch of other brain dead crap that you'd expect form someone who worked on Suikoden 4.

[Furry Wrecking Crew]

Originally posted by Dragon of Dojima:

SAVE US KONAMI

You have no idea if it flopped yet LMAO. It will be selling for years on Steam. It's not 1994 anymore, bruh. Initial week sales mean nothing in a decades-long selling cycle.

[valentino.lizal]

LOL, you are funny. There is no guarantee Suikoden gonna do better than Eiyuden. Especially with westerners nowdays, always argue about stuffs and completely disregard how the game supposed to be.

Also Eiyuden is not a flop. It plagues with bugs and stuffs (accurate translation vs not accurate, other stuffs). But its still a good game.

[FroBodine]

Originally posted by Mochan:

Eiyuuden wasn't a bad game. It definitely wasn't an amazing game but it was still really good. It just had some.... stupid design decisions like trash tier puzzle dungeons, fishing for wheel-eyed fish, 30 minute boss battles and a bunch of other brain dead crap that you'd expect form someone who worked on Suikoden 4.

You write in the past tense like the game has been out for months and months. It's been six days!

[Zandakar]

Uh are sales figures even out?

[Mochan]

Originally posted by FroBodine:

Originally posted by Mochan:

Eiyuuden wasn't a bad game. It definitely wasn't an amazing game but it was still really good. It just had some.... stupid design decisions like trash tier puzzle dungeons, fishing for wheel-eyed fish, 30 minute boss battles and a bunch of other brain dead crap that you'd expect form someone who worked on Suikoden 4.

You write in the past tense like the game has been out for months and months. It's been six days!

My shingan allows me to see into the future, giving me uncanny insight.

[AnxiousBlue]

It didn't flop... unlike Konami.

[Mr. Hanzo]

im not understanding the stance you are trying to make here?

[AshaMarie]

I wonder if Konami even remembers they were remastering this game. 0 updates for longest time. To me that is beginnings of a flop.

[BoogtehWoog]

Originally posted by AshaMarie:

I wonder if Konami even remembers they were remastering this game. 0 updates for longest time. To me that is beginnings of a flop.

Seeing so many studios being closed and/or projects being canceled across the gaming industry definitely has me thinking the game is dead. It was announced during a period of time in which the gaming industry was awash in funds and now there has been a severe contraction. I really, really hope I am wrong because it would be devastating to have it dangled in front of us and then taken away.

[ContraWars]

Playing ECHH right now. I wouldn't be surprised if any game like this "flops" these days.

ECHH is a good game that is buried beneath slightly obnoxious stereotypical over the top anime crap-tier localization, a disheveled consistency with it's translated descriptions and terminology in the menus, and the gameplay seemingly does everything it can to get in your way and annoy you.

If it was 20+ years ago, I wouldn't care.

Now, I still don't care... but i can't excuse it just the same, when I'm pulling up the menu and need to tab the shoulder button over 2 screens to get into the equipment menu, and it's laggy or slow at times while cycling through them. Or the delay you run into when opening chests while your limited inventory bag is full. Or how you get your base after a few hours, and a half a dozen characters "join" your party and you take individual notifications for each one, splashing their character art on the screen, one at a time.

Tedious. The whole thing.

Suikoden 1 & 2 will get a pass from me no matter how clunky, it is what it is. Just like with Star Ocean 2R, which is arguably better than any of the modern retro HD-2D style games for me.

[Valar Morghulis]

Don't feed the trolls guys. Let them bark.

[aeternox]

Eiyuden doesnt necessarily flop, it just that if youve played Suikoden II and the rest, the plot is so predictable and it becomes boring, no weight to storytelling and just rushing to fill in the blanks with copied suikoden plot mixed with extra salt and pepper

[Andar]

Originally posted by Zandakar:

Uh are sales figures even out?

Pretty sure the game was already mostly funded due to kickstarter/gofundme or whatever they used for it.

From looking at player count and one or two other things compared to similar games, I'm guessing it's sold pretty well.

Not the best game in the world, I'm struggling with it in a few respects unfortunately, but given the above and the fact they've already green lit a sequel I'm confident it's far from a flop.

[hidayato]

Originally posted by Dragon of Dojima:

Now that Eiyuden Chronicles Flopped Hard.

proof?