without pvp...

[Mr Rabbit]

this is LITERALLY just ALOFT... fact...

worlds adrift was outstanding... but now we just have an ALOFT reskin.

a basic crafting survival game..

without pvp.. this wont wont take off (pun intended)

make worlds adrift again..

[Ashar]

the biggest ngative to me when i was playing worlds adrift WAS the pvp, woukld have been nice for pvp and pve servers but they didnt have any pve enemies back then. Now its pve focused its likely they will add pvp later once the main game is sorted

[Kasabi]

Sounds exactly like the game I am looking for, thanks! I bought it!

[Mr Rabbit]

Originally posted by Saito:

Originally posted by Mr Rabbit:

this is LITERALLY just ALOFT... fact...

worlds adrift was outstanding... but now we just have an ALOFT reskin.

a basic crafting survival game..

without pvp.. this wont wont take off (pun intended)

make worlds adrift again..

All you want is to be able to bully others in open world PVP so you can feel like you matter. you don't and gaming will not tolerate that attitude going forward.

false.. id end up getting bullied and killed the most...

[Mr Rabbit]

Originally posted by Uriel:

Originally posted by Scooby Doo:

Funny that PVE/SP games do not last as I have personally well over 500 games between Steam and Epic. None of them are for PVP use and most really do not have much PVP in them. In fact a few are held together with PVE gameplay because of the issues that arise with PVP. Not to mention that most PVE/SP games really do not need all the Anti Cheat software that PVP must have.

This, but also the successful MMO which still live to this day are mostly PvE based too. All full PvP MMOs have tanked. Well except for Black Desert, which technically is full open PvP, but it happens so rarely that people often think there's a cheater XD

this isnt an mmo

[Mr Rabbit]

Originally posted by Uriel:

Originally posted by Typhooni:

Oh please.... Check the top 10 games on Steam, notice a pattern? Most of them are full-on PVP.

My bad, I worded that poorly. I assumed you'd understand "full open world PvP" as implying a persistent world, which you didn't. of course a competitive shooter will be PvP, but that's absolutely not what we're talking about here. That's definetely not what World Adrift was either.

So, are those top 10 games persistent world full open PvP ? Let's have a look at https://steamdb.info/charts/

1 - Counter Strike 2. Nope, not persistent.
2 - Dota 2. Not persistent.
3 - PUBG. Not persistent.
4 - Schedule 1. Not PvP at all.
5 - Marvel Rivals. Not persistent.
6 - Rust. Mostly persistent. I'll give you that one.
7 - Bongo Cat. Solo.
8 - Last Epoch. No PvP.
9 - APEX Legend. Not persistent. Also, 1 million average ratings, and still one of the most played games ?
10 - REPO. No PvP.

I should also mention that shortly behind those, you'll find Baldur's Gate 3, Stardew Valley, a football/soccer game (which might technically count as PvP if you don't play solo), Warframe (technically has PvP but no one plays it ever), Euro Truck Simulator 2... PvP is definetely not needed to have a large audience.

The first persistent PvP game is Rust, number 6, and it's the only one in the top 10. In the tp 50, there isn't even a handful of them. You might get 5 or 6 in the whole top 100.

Do you understand how "popular" open world full PvP is now ? They're trying to run a business, here.

devs says it has firendly fire. so it has pvp. get ready

[Mr Rabbit]

Originally posted by Uriel:

I love aloft. Great game. And it has nothing in common with this game beside some sky islands.

Does aloft has grappling ? Or significant combat ? Or ship building ? Deep exploration ? Jumping puzzles ?

Does Lost Skies have "turn island into mobile base" ? Random world generation ?

The answer to all of those is "no". Crawl back under your rock, troll. Oh, and I almost forgot : ♥♥♥♥ PvP.

"friendly fire" = PvP. goodluck

[Mr Rabbit]

Originally posted by CTRL:

Friendly fire does exist :) While PVP isn't the focus of the game. It is possible.

Thank you

[CTRL]

Originally posted by Mr Rabbit:

Originally posted by CTRL:

Friendly fire does exist :) While PVP isn't the focus of the game. It is possible.

Thank you

No worries! Have fun <3

[StrdstBNG]

Originally posted by Dead Baron:

so why make it into a tiny co-op PVE game?

I'm just curious. Is it really that tiny?

[☢︎Noob☢]

Why do I have the impression you used to be the kind of person who'd wait for people outside of the wind walls to gank them as soon as they came out of it?

[Typhooni]

Originally posted by Mr Rabbit:

this is LITERALLY just ALOFT... fact...

worlds adrift was outstanding... but now we just have an ALOFT reskin.

a basic crafting survival game..

without pvp.. this wont wont take off (pun intended)

make worlds adrift again..

It's sad, but you spoke the truth. I will get the game eventually at a steep discount, like the 20% off for Worlds Adrift owners is very low, a new low I would say.

[wildbill]

Originally posted by Mr Rabbit:

this is LITERALLY just ALOFT... fact...

worlds adrift was outstanding... but now we just have an ALOFT reskin.

a basic crafting survival game..

without pvp.. this wont wont take off (pun intended)

make worlds adrift again..

Maybe said already, but I've been playing Aloft for a few weeks, then tried this game. The two have nothing really in common other than the floating islands.

Aloft has wind updrafts and the glider in that game will take you upwards. By default is has level flight, not the drop like a rock in this game. It is a relaxing game where you can fail, but there are no hard consequences.

This is more of a hard core survival game, with quite a lot of combat. The two are like night and day.

[Asher Mir ▼]

too bad you are too stupid to read about this game...the WILL implant pvp in the future for specific zones - not everywhere

[JCK_Official |TTV|]

Originally posted by Uriel:

Originally posted by Dead Baron:

so why make it into a tiny co-op PVE game?

Because this is not world adrift.

There is a reason most full open pvp game fail, and the reason, nobody but griefers want them.

The main draw for me is that it's not pvp. Would be even better if it were purely solo, but hey...

You've been in IT ? Yeah, me too. And I've managed server farms for international companies. So I can tell running servers has a cost, even more so if you need to rent proprietary tech. For a game, it means that you need income, which you don't get on a niche game that everyone flees because of pvp griefing.

It should be obvious to anyone who effectively ran servers. You may be in IT, but you're very obviously NOT in the business of running servers.

This is a fact. Griefers ruined Worlds Adrift and killed (pun) the player base. Getting Join or Die'd by a 30 man zerg T4 ship on your dinky shoddy T1 Sail barge is not gameplay, it's bullying. Right on the devs to remove the part of the game that killed their last major title. Good riddance.

[Typhooni]

Originally posted by JCK_Official |TTV|:

Originally posted by Uriel:

Because this is not world adrift.

There is a reason most full open pvp game fail, and the reason, nobody but griefers want them.

The main draw for me is that it's not pvp. Would be even better if it were purely solo, but hey...

You've been in IT ? Yeah, me too. And I've managed server farms for international companies. So I can tell running servers has a cost, even more so if you need to rent proprietary tech. For a game, it means that you need income, which you don't get on a niche game that everyone flees because of pvp griefing.

It should be obvious to anyone who effectively ran servers. You may be in IT, but you're very obviously NOT in the business of running servers.

This is a fact. Griefers ruined Worlds Adrift and killed (pun) the player base. Getting Join or Die'd by a 30 man zerg T4 ship on your dinky shoddy T1 Sail barge is not gameplay, it's bullying. Right on the devs to remove the part of the game that killed their last major title. Good riddance.

Sigh. Best to not use the internet.