lag and stuttering

[liberator65853]

I have a problem with major lag near teleporters and stuttering when more than 20 or so npc are in one area, would this be because my ram or is this acommon issue with windows 10? Here are my computer specs.

Computer Information:
Manufacturer: HP
Model: 22-b372ds
Form Factor: Desktop
Touch Input Detected

Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: GenuineIntel
CPU Brand: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU J4205 @ 1.50GHz
CPU Family: 0x6
CPU Model: 0x5c
CPU Stepping: 0x9
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 1498 Mhz
4 logical processors
4 physical processors
HyperThreading: Unsupported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Unsupported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Unsupported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported

Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

Video Card:
Driver: Intel(R) HD Graphics
DirectX Driver Name: igdumdim32.dll
Driver Version: 21.20.16.4565
DirectX Driver Version: 21.20.16.4565
Driver Date: 12 10 2016
OpenGL Version: 4.4
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics
VendorID: 0x8086
DeviceID: 0x5a84
Revision: 0xb
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 18.74" x 10.55" (21.50" diag)
47.6cm x 26.8cm (54.6cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM: 1024 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x 16x

Sound card:
Audio device: Speaker/Headphone (Realtek High

Memory:
RAM: 3919 Mb

Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Media Type: DVD
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 952611 Mb
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 255368 Mb
OS Install Date: Dec 31 1969
Game Controller: None detected
VR Headset: None detected

I have steams fps counter on and I get a constant 30fps no matter my settings as long as AA is off and hdr is down. I lowered all settings and screen res to the lowest possible and I still get the stuttering and fps drops near teleporters which reduces fps to around 3fps. So is this caused by not enough ram or just a poblem with the game on windows 10 or my integrated graphics?

[SRediess]

Req:
Processor: Dual Core CPU mit 2.0 GHz
CPU Brand: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU J4205 @ 1.50GHz

You are under the requirements. No matter about Quad Core.
Beside you use an Intel Graphic Card. They always have problems.

Memory:
RAM: 3919 Mb shared Memory
Meaning the Graphic Card uses this RAM, too.

This one I think:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurbished-HP-22-B372DS-21-5-Touch-AIO-Desktop-Intel-Pentium-J4205-1-5GHz-4GB-1TB-Win10/462873603

Your Processor:
https://ark.intel.com/products/95591/Intel-Pentium-Processor-J4205-2M-Cache-up-to-2-6-GHz-

Memory Upgrade Information:
https://support.hp.com/in-en/document/c05646268

Windows is in 64 Bit Technology, so you can upgrade to 8 GB. I think that doesn't do much. You can't upgrade your CPU, as this Mainboard only supports 2 Processors. You have the stronger one of the 2.

[liberator65853]

Thanks for the reply! didn't rrealize I was under the requirements, that explains it! still to be under the requirements it runs great besides those two issues. and yep thats my pc

[Amadan]

I don't think this fully explains it. Notice the OP said "it runs great besides those two issues".

Why? Well let me explain...

I first ran Two Worlds on an old PC. It was 4400+ intel dual core 2.3ghz, 2gb ram, geforce 9800 gt and using Ubuntu OS (I think 14.1). The fps was lower than on my new pc. I never experienced stuttering on the old one. But I do on the newer ones.

I made my current PC last year in September. It's i3-8100 (3.6 ghz quad core), 16gb dd4 ram, B360M M/B and Windows 10 (with all updates).

The stuttering doesn't happen in small traffic areas. It always happens when I'm near a lots of wandering NPCs. For example, it happens in Tharbakin in the market square where there're probably 30+ NPCs wandering. It also happens at the bandit camp near the starting village--when they aggro my character.

The sutters are intermittent, EVERYTHING freezes. It happens about every 10 to 30 seconds. The length of time is up to half a second. It happens in fullscreen and in windowed mode. Interestingly, if in windowed mode, nothing else on the PC freezes. For example, I can have a youtube video in another window and it'll run smoothly even when Two Worlds freezes for half a second. So these stutters only affect Two Worlds, not the whole system.

More interestingly, I tried running this on another PC in our house. That PC is older. It's 3.6ghz a6-5400k amd dual-core cpu, 8gb ddr3 ram and Windows 8.1. The stutters are exactly hte same and in the same areas.

And yet the framerate is otherwise not bad on either. With equal settings and resolution, the older one runs the title screen at 105-130 fps, and hte newer one at 175-204. In-game, the the difference is about 3x between them. In Tharbakin, for example, the older one is about 17+ fps, but hte new one is 50+ in the same place.

I think it might have to do with PhysX and driver versions, and maybe the lack of a dedicated card. However, I've heard of similar stutters in Gothic 3 from someone who was using a dedicated geforce card, so I'm not sure. It's odd how framerates can be increasignly higher with better pc specs, but the stutters remain.

I made this post so others experiencing this won't feel alone on this.

[liberator65853]

That is about how mine does except the teleports are what cause mine to freeze up like that

[Amadan]

liberator, didn't you say lots of NPCs in one place cause it?

Teh stuttering is like this, but it lasts at most half a second, not longer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYs9OBOiGOU

And I don't have it if there're only a few wandering creatures nearby. Only whne there're a lot--the large bandit camp near the starting area will cause it.

Also the same problem is on another PC. That PC also uses onboard audio and it's a different brand. Mine is Realtek and that one is IDT.

REcently I've been googling this. I've been led to believe it might be related to audio or onboard audio. If I turn off sound fx the problem goes away, and I've seen how this has same effect in some other games--while googling.

[liberator65853]

Lots of npcs do cause it but not as much or as bad as the teleports do for me. Lots of npcs (like the ones located in the Tharbakin market) makes the game stutter for me every few seconds. Teleports however, as soon as I enter one my game drops to 1fps and its a pain to teleport anywheres. It could be audio issue withthe npc stuttering, mine is a Realtek too. My teleport problem is an issue with my cpu though I think

[Amadan]

Ya it might be the particles in the teleporter. Do you notice if particles in other 3d games cause a lag in framerate? I don't have that problem in TW.

In the past I've had slowdonws in different games due to particles. Most of the time it was because I didn't have a dedicated gfx card.

[liberator65853]

Originally posted by Amadan:

Ya it might be the particles in the teleporter. Do you notice if particles in other 3d games cause a lag in framerate? I don't have that problem in TW.

In the past I've had slowdonws in different games due to particles. Most of the time it was because I didn't have a dedicated gfx card.

Dragon age Origins does give me lag when lots of particles are on screen. That could be the teleporter problem I am having. But also games like Total War ,Skyrim, and PixARK don't seem affected by it

[Vele]

i have the same issue with the teleport particles only stutter when many npcs in combat rarely and teleport issue but 1-2 steps from the teleport and the framrates are back to normal

[VoidEngineer]

Necroing this because I, too, am experiencing the problem. My machine, which is a beast, stutters every few seconds for approximately .5 - 1.0 seconds. It's aggravating as hell. I don't suppose anyone found a solution for this problem?

[liberator65853]

I didn't find a solution for it

[Amadan]

Skjarl, the only solution for me to turn off sound fx. But it's not really a solution.

Or try it on Ubuntu. On my old machine, I ran it without stuttering in Ubuntu 14. I list the pc specs in a post up above. I can't guarantee Ubuntu was the reason.

Want to comment I was looking at the game on the other pc just because... and still marveling at how good it looks in places. The it dawned on me this is 2007! Some of the games now are looking damned real, like Red Dead Redemption 2 or Shadow of the Tomb Raider.