you cant play offline but...

[Leon96]

can you use mods?
can you cheat on your own world?
i do that on every single crafting game that there's no automation system to make basic gameplay loops automatic.
even skull and bones there's an automatic gold coin generator (special coin in game)
i feel liek this is gonna be payday 3 all over again.
at least put some automation system in the future. most people my age cant spend that much time gathering wood in a virtual world just to enjoy the late game - or make it like No Man's Sky.

PS.: yes, i will use mods to multiply resources IF AND ONLY IF the developers don't mind
PPS.: NO, i will not give away nor sell resources to other players and ruin everyone's experience
PPPS.: NO, i dont partake at ANY sort of PVP nor like to play with other players. solely alone.
PPPPS.: That's too many P's.

[Leon96]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

it seems getting older also makes you more entitled. as no game NEEDS this kind of stuff by default. so please speak for yourself. i am older aswell and have dutys irl. yet i enjoy this aspect of survival craft games. otherwise i wouldnt play them at all. they dont exist purely for building with nothing else in between. i enjoy mixing up my activities. thats what made valheim so good. everything had a purpose ingame. a meaning to bring you forward in your adventure.

people always shout "hurr durr its a singleplayer game" youre still cheating. and plenty of players bring thier cheated ♥♥♥♥ into multiplayer aswell. had to moderate servers in valheim due to that crap.

calm down dude.
its just a game. you speak as someone who has time to play. i dont.
no need to call me entitled. If you having a personal problem in your life that makes you feel like that towards other players, hit me up and we chat. No need to be rude.

Tune down your way of talking to strangers because no one here offended you.

[ImOnYourSide]

I love the entitled thing, it's like some kid hits college and hears the word for the first time and wants to use it liberally. This is a videogame not real life, exactly the OP's reason that mods and changing game settings make it much easier to skip the boring parts and things that don't value ones time.

[Riley Van Hellsing]

Originally posted by Leon96:

Originally posted by Mile:

If said game does not have what you want, then find one that does or development your own game.

reported for inducing fights. i'm buying the game, miss. no need to make this thread the reason for your bad day.

its just a complaint + suggestion based on the oportunity to play the way we like without "moral constraints". most coop games got anti cheat.

They aren't inducing a fight. They are telling you and everyone like you.. that if you don't like the game... go elsewhere where they made the game YOU want.

[BecketsGD]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

it seems getting older also makes you more entitled. as no game NEEDS this kind of stuff by default. so please speak for yourself. i am older aswell and have dutys irl. yet i enjoy this aspect of survival craft games. otherwise i wouldnt play them at all. they dont exist purely for building with nothing else in between. i enjoy mixing up my activities. thats what made valheim so good. everything had a purpose ingame. a meaning to bring you forward in your adventure.

people always shout "hurr durr its a singleplayer game" youre still cheating. and plenty of players bring thier cheated ♥♥♥♥ into multiplayer aswell. had to moderate servers in valheim due to that crap.

Saying he is cheating doesn't make sense in any way. Who is he cheating playing solo? HIMSELF? You are trying to punish him for stuff someone else did. Were you griefed in RDR2 online or some other game and are now seeking vengeance for PTSD or something?
Its weird that you are so triggered by how someone else plays a game in a solo environment. OP can spend his own game time doing whatever he wants and playing however he wants and it wont affect you or your game at all. If or when he starts trying to cheat in a multiplayer setting with strangers like you, THEN and only THEN should you give a rats ass

[TotalWarlock]

why even play a game you "dont have time for" just so you can cheat and pretend you did something? this game isnt live service either, you wont miss out on any battlepasses so why would you need to cheat? you could just play it like a normal person and enjoy it instead of cheating to rush through it

[BecketsGD]

Originally posted by Xariot:

Imagine being so bad at a game that you have to cheat.

Imagine giving a rats ass what strangers do in their own solo game environments.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Leon96:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

it seems getting older also makes you more entitled. as no game NEEDS this kind of stuff by default. so please speak for yourself. i am older aswell and have dutys irl. yet i enjoy this aspect of survival craft games. otherwise i wouldnt play them at all. they dont exist purely for building with nothing else in between. i enjoy mixing up my activities. thats what made valheim so good. everything had a purpose ingame. a meaning to bring you forward in your adventure.

people always shout "hurr durr its a singleplayer game" youre still cheating. and plenty of players bring thier cheated ♥♥♥♥ into multiplayer aswell. had to moderate servers in valheim due to that crap.

calm down dude.
its just a game. you speak as someone who has time to play. i dont.
no need to call me entitled. If you having a personal problem in your life that makes you feel like that towards other players, hit me up and we chat. No need to be rude.

Tune down your way of talking to strangers because no one here offended you.

if you dont have time to play that is a PERSONAL problem of yourself. not the games fault nor should the game cater to players who got no time to play said game. thats just... silly. there is plenty of shortterm games for people who want everything instantly. survival craft games arent part of that design meta and shouldnt be part of it. as it goes againist thier core design by nature.

a game type gerne DESIGNED at its core to ask alot of time from the player simply isnt meant for everyone and especially not for players who well got little to no time to play at all. thats why you can choose to play overpriced crap like the game you mentioned instead. we dont need that triple A design in indie titles aswell.

[ImYourHuckleberry]

This isn't a poke at the OP but if you're looking for automation, then you should give Satisfactory a look, if you don't already have it. These type of games aren't built with automation in mind, they aren't that type of game...

[Leon96]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by Leon96:

calm down dude.
its just a game. you speak as someone who has time to play. i dont.
no need to call me entitled. If you having a personal problem in your life that makes you feel like that towards other players, hit me up and we chat. No need to be rude.

Tune down your way of talking to strangers because no one here offended you.

if you dont have time to play that is a PERSONAL problem of yourself. not the games fault nor should the game cater to players who got no time to play said game. thats just... silly. there is plenty of shortterm games for people who want everything instantly. survival craft games arent part of that design meta and shouldnt be part of it. as it goes againist thier core design by nature.

a game type gerne DESIGNED at its core to ask alot of time from the player simply isnt meant for everyone and especially not for players who well got little to no time to play at all. thats why you can choose to play overpriced crap like the game you mentioned instead. we dont need that triple A design in indie titles aswell.

sure but be gentle like you are being now. you can be angry at me but dont call me things like entitled.

[Leon96]

Originally posted by I'mYourHuckleberry:

This isn't a poke at the OP but if you're looking for automation, then you should give Satisfactory a look, if you don't already have it. These type of games aren't built with automation in mind, they aren't that type of game...

i have it and its great. but the nightingale architecture is one of the 2 reasons i bought the game. i really just want to make a giant mansion with what nightingale has to offer.
currently im on starfield building a house with infinite resources and it looks amazing. i do that on The Sims 4 as well. lol. i just think nightingale will get nightinstale (sorry - had to do it) after gathering basic resources for some time. most of the crafting games push me out of them with no automatic system like that. hopefully my experience will be better in game. we'll see. thanks for the tip tho'. much appreciated.

[Soma]

Like Valheim they will add game modifiers/de commands that create 100% free build modes, if the cards are not already there to do it. Why? Because they made the game to make money, not for any single play type. More ways to play makes a game more $ucce$$ful. The more successful they are the longer the servers will stay up, so yeah hurry up with the game options devs so everyone can play it like they want, what are you waiting for :P

Whinning about how others play the game cannot stop this. Bet ya 10 bucks it is added before 1.0

[Darkfine]

Originally posted by Leon96:

Originally posted by 𝒮𝒸𝒶𝓇:

I mean cheats kinda beats the purpose of playing at all if you hand yourself a cookie.

I'm old.
Too old to enjoy cutting trees in over 100 games over and over again. Automation becomes a necessity the older the player gets.
More responsibilities. Wife. Kids...
I made a paper related to that.
Older players tend to preffer games with shorter matches like Call of Duty, Helldivers and so on.
Again: TEND TO. its not a rule. but i am included in that statistic.

for me, what shines in Nightingale is the super beautiful architecture of house building, the shaders and the story/social aspect

the cutting tree part/resource gathering is not a game mechanic i'm interested in maintaining on the long term. i like building gigantic bases "for free".

my thread is just a suggestion to the developers, since we are OBLIGED of playing online

Where did you get "Older players tend to prefer games with shorter matches" from? Did you conduct a survey or something? I'm in a few different "dad" groups of older, responsibility laden folks and none have them have said anything about not wanting to chop wood. Seems like you might be taking anecdotal experience and assuming it is true over a larger sample size than well, you.

[Leon96]

Originally posted by Soma:

Like Valheim they will add game modifiers/de commands that create 100% free build modes, if the cards are not already there to do it. Why? Because they made the game to make money, not for any single play type. More ways to play makes a game more $ucce$$ful. The more successful they are the longer the servers will stay up, so yeah hurry up with the game options devs so everyone can play it like they want, what are you waiting for :P

Whinning about how others play the game cannot stop this. Bet ya 10 bucks it is added before 1.0

hope they hear you, brother. :D
here's a kiss

[Leon96]

Originally posted by Darkfine:

I'm in a few different "dad" groups

you might be taking anecdotal experience
assuming it is true over a
larger sample size than well, you.

i'm sure you have time to partake on different "dad" groups but do not haste with sarcasm, my friend. As I wasn't rude to anyone.

I indeed do research on consumer behavior. Hit me up on discord (leon96) if you wanna see the pdf's.

[PlagueBrain]

Originally posted by Leon96:

Originally posted by Darkfine:

I'm in a few different "dad" groups

you might be taking anecdotal experience
assuming it is true over a
larger sample size than well, you.

i'm sure you have time to partake on different "dad" groups but do not haste with sarcasm, my friend. As I wasn't rude to anyone.

I indeed do research on consumer behavior. Hit me up on discord (leon96) if you wanna see the pdf's.

I'm just going to back you up on this. Also have worked in consumer psych and competitive intel/market research (mostly in legal work now, but that's another story).

Those dad groups are 100% rife with selection bias. Tends to be new dads and/or those who pawn off a lot of parenting onto their SOs, or they're SAHDs. I can say with absolute certainty I did *not* have time to even participate meaningfully in dad groups, let alone game as much as I wanted to when my baby was little. And even now - kids have extracurriculars out the ass. My game time is my downtime, and it remains at a premium between that and work.

With respect to Katt Williams, you bet I made plenty of time management pimp decisions when it came to what I bought to play, and still do. QOL features are important to me - and such is true of the dad/mom/grownup gamer market. Despite changing demos in gaming, those of us who grew up on the classics or slightly later are still the core market demo, and we're all busy/worked to death/loading up the car for baseball season.

And that, in turn, has influenced market demand for gaming - and why QOL features, solo offline capability, and drop in/out instancing and grouping have become so crucial in gaming as a whole as determinants of success.

But the real irony here is taking "evidence" from "dad groups," and presenting it as anything more than anecdotal. Those have the kinds of sample pops that give me both heebies and jeebies if I think about it too much, because they're so incredibly limited and prone to echo chambering.