Anyone else feel like the hobo phase lasts too long?

[Goatmanpig]

Title, most player don't players don't play survival games for the early game/hobo phase they play for the mid and late game content. Ideally the hobo phase feels like the mid game even when it's actually the early game content. Palworld also laid too heavily into the hobo phase as well

[Sister of Silence]

I wouldn't mind so much if the hobo phase didn't include the atrocious yellow outfit with turban tbh. This is the one time that Twitch drops actually saved the day (despite the purple dress being a bit of an eyesore, unfortunately I accidentally misclicked and destroyed the coat).

[Arestris]

Originally posted by Sister of Silence:

unfortunately I accidentally misclicked and destroyed the coat).

I did this with the gloves and somehow I don't have the mats yet to craft it again ...

[Sister of Silence]

Originally posted by Arestris:

Originally posted by Sister of Silence:

unfortunately I accidentally misclicked and destroyed the coat).

I did this with the gloves and somehow I don't have the mats yet to craft it again ... :lunar2019laughingpig:

That's pointless anyway, selfcrafted coat turned out about 20 gear score lower than the original :/

[Kaziklu78]

Yes. They really need to add in more options for clothing. These games are partly a fashion game.

I don't think it was a huge issue to them during development because in first person you don't actually see most of the gear most of the time.

Also remember the material matters.

if you use high end mats your get a higher gear score.

[Goldthorn]

Originally posted by Goatmanpig:

Title, most player don't players don't play survival games for the early game/hobo phase they play for the mid and late game content. Ideally the hobo phase feels like the mid game even when it's actually the early game content. Palworld also laid too heavily into the hobo phase as well

So, you want a longer mid game, end game? How far are you actually into the game? Are you asking for, less game?

[Frosty]

Well it would help if you could use pigments, or the different tier material to determine the color of clothing.

[Dagmar]

What? You don't like that we could rename ourselves to the League of Burlap Adventurers?

In this case tho, I'm just assuming it's because we're still in Early Access and fancy Victorian dress isn't likely to be needed until more serious issues (like build limits, speeding up instancing, maybe making combat less flailing about) have been addressed.

[enu]

Originally posted by Frosty:

Well it would help if you could use pigments, or the different tier material to determine the color of clothing.

thats actually how it works, prey is more bright

[Zero]

The hobo clothes are terrible and I wish there was a way to raise gear level of our starting outfits (not just upgrade them to uncomon since you can do the same with the hobo clothes and that just, once more, makes them better)
I picked a good looking starter outfit and right off the bat I need to replace it with incredibly ugly clothes. I don't even play in 3rd person since I don't see my character in first person.

[Swift-Li]

Originally posted by Goatmanpig:

Title, most player don't players don't play survival games for the early game/hobo phase they play for the mid and late game content. Ideally the hobo phase feels like the mid game even when it's actually the early game content. Palworld also laid too heavily into the hobo phase as well

Most player buy into EA for mid and end game contents? It's not the devs fault for dumb players.

[Faawks]

Took me a while to figure out what I was doing, just got access to firearms and made my first pistol at 25 hours, have access to the new clothes but haven't made any yet, but now that I have a decent grasp on what I need to do (it's not very clear in the game) I reckon I could do it in a few hours.

There's no levelling or any real grinding, you could rush around grabbing the matts you need and off you go.

[Riflebird]

Agreed. One of the main draws to this game as compared to other survival games was the Victorian theme. Five minutes into the tutorial you get rid of your fancy dandy duds and have to wear the typical ragged, falling apart leather armor that's so prevalent in other survival games. I wanted to play as Mary Poppins dammit, not Conan.

Also, the guns are super ugly. I thought we'd get macho Western guns, not these weird goofy-looking comedy weapons. The preview image for the Lancaster pistol was so badass looking, but when you actually craft it you get what looks like a cheese grater. Totally lame.

[Goatmanpig]

Originally posted by Swift-Li:

Originally posted by Goatmanpig:

Title, most player don't players don't play survival games for the early game/hobo phase they play for the mid and late game content. Ideally the hobo phase feels like the mid game even when it's actually the early game content. Palworld also laid too heavily into the hobo phase as well

Most player buy into EA for mid and end game contents? It's not the devs fault for dumb players.

The focus of almost all games is the mid and late game as they generally provide access to the largest amount of gameplay loops. EA games should generally release with a balance of their early, mid, and late game content so the player get a healthy idea of what the dev intends for the game

[saice]

My issue with the hobo lifestyle length of the game mostly around gear score gating. If you play solo the gear score grind is very much a real grind.

So much of the content is setup were you can not even find the crafting patterns for stuff until you unlocked the realm cards to progress the main quest. And each leg of that means fully upgrading to the next tier on mats for everything you got on. Even using a little cheese with main/offhand swapping to bump your score to get into the next site. It still takes a long time before you start to get out of your crude gear phase.

I'm about a dozen hours in solo and I'm basically a Tier 2 hobo with a nice hat and pants at the moment.

[Hash]

Originally posted by Sister of Silence:

I wouldn't mind so much if the hobo phase didn't include the atrocious yellow outfit with turban tbh. This is the one time that Twitch drops actually saved the day (despite the purple dress being a bit of an eyesore, unfortunately I accidentally misclicked and destroyed the coat).

it unlocks the recipe too so you can remake them