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As for where in the swamp, I haven't found one yet myself, still looking.
It's kinda hilarious, but it made getting plant fibre and sticks in my realm impossible (they give meat too) lmfao.
I wont go hungry ever again though.
Outside of getting rare ore from killing mobs, I've never actually seen where these ores spawn, so I'm really sorry for not being able to really help.
Maybe try finding a few trickster minor realm cards and hoping you get lucky with the rng of the card so you can also get ore from creatures? This doesn't happen every time you use this minor realm card, its a random chance of it happening.
Trickster resource swapping can also give you ores you can't even mine yet, because you don't have a tool strong enough. On one desert realm, the harmless little critter bugs all dropped weird ores that I hadn't even seen yet. "pursuit" ore, silver, magnesium, etc. I left there with stacks of this stuff.
And apparently you can melt any ore in the smelter, even the simple smelter. There's no gating about needing a higher tier smelter. The gating is all in whether you can mine the stuff or not.
The "pursuit" ore from that one realm was enough to make the barrel and action of my rifle, both with huge ranged bonuses.
When you build the T3 card table and was at "the watch" you can build level 100 cards and can mine that there.
I found it pretty frequently with the card combo swamp/astrolab (30). I didn't really search for it, just kept finding it as I was completing the map.