This game lacks a purpose.

[Don Cool]

I felt a bit like playing Valheim with prettier graphics, the discovery part is mostly a copy/paste of random buildings and at times I felt like playing Starfield, wondering around with very little innovation in the mix.

In Palworld there are is always that weird gambling satisfaction, do I capture the Pal or not? I guess it suits primitive brains like mine, that includes the illusion of company and since I won´t be playing with "real humans" I sort of rely and the NPC following me. Havn´t figured out how I can set her to craft, was hoping she would get the items from the chests but nope.

Ran around a lot, saw the same over and over with little novelty to be inspired by, walking simulator 2024 as the umbrella might not yet be up to the task of carrying me a lot, needs an upgrade or two I guess.

I can´t leave a negative review, it´s early access and so far there have been no problems game play wise, that includes the technical aspects, game runs flawlessly.

However, I do expect more from a new survival title than your average build/craft/improve mechanics.

[Power]

Originally posted by Don:

I felt a bit like playing Valheim with prettier graphics, the discovery part is mostly a copy/paste of random buildings and at times I felt like playing Starfield, wondering around with very little innovation in the mix.

In Palworld there are is always that weird gambling satisfaction, do I capture the Pal or not? I guess it suits primitive brains like mine, that includes the illusion of company and since I won´t be playing with "real humans" I sort of rely and the NPC following me. Havn´t figured out how I can set her to craft, was hoping she would get the items from the chests but nope.

Ran around a lot, saw the same over and over with little novelty to be inspired by, walking simulator 2024 as the umbrella might not yet be up to the task of carrying me a lot, needs an upgrade or two I guess.

I can´t leave a negative review, it´s early access and so far there have been no problems game play wise, that includes the technical aspects, game runs flawlessly.

However, I do expect more from a new survival title than your average build/craft/improve mechanics.

Sounds more like you're burned out of crafting survival games. At least this one has a story with great voice acting. Asking "What's the point" is always kind of dumb. What's the point of minecraft? To build something pretty. That's literally the entire point.

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Power:

What's the point of minecraft?

To find stronghold and slay the dragon, which rolls credits.

[Power]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Originally posted by Power:

What's the point of minecraft?

To find stronghold and slay the dragon, which rolls credits.

Can be done in 3 hours. Very short purpose.

[wildbill]

Originally posted by Power:

Sounds more like you're burned out of crafting survival games. At least this one has a story with great voice acting. Asking "What's the point" is always kind of dumb. What's the point of minecraft? To build something pretty. That's literally the entire point.

Not true. There is a clear end goal in Minecraft, which is to kill the dragon. For those that like an end goal, that can be it.

I have no idea what the end goal in this game is. I am pretty sure you never escape and make it back to wherever it is your character came from.

I too like a goal, an obvious progression indicator. Normally this is your character level. Pretty sure there is no character level. Or at least a skill tree. Nope.

I didn't see any point and honestly was not having fun with the craft, then craft and improved version of the same thing mechanic. The long waits for crafting are also boring. If you could start it and come back while doing something it would not be bad, but it is all the micromanaging of starting it, waiting, getting the item, and repeating that 10 times that makes it boring.

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Power:

Originally posted by Butcher:

To find stronghold and slay the dragon, which rolls credits.

Can be done in 3 hours. Very short purpose.

If you are speedrunning - maybe. However if you don't know tricks from wiki or videos in can take months.

Take Noita, some people can't finish it with literally 100 hours because they always die, while I finished it in 6 minutes:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2463638945

[wildbill]

Originally posted by Power:

Originally posted by Butcher:

To find stronghold and slay the dragon, which rolls credits.

Can be done in 3 hours. Very short purpose.

Right, but I could do that over and over a hundred times and honestly never get bored until about the 100th time. Since each seed is different. The location of all the resources is different. The dragon is in a different location. The lava is always waiting to kill you if you make one stupid mistake. So nice little 3 hour games. Loved it.

[Assassin Aria]

Have you reached the end-game? It's supposedly the part when you get to Nightingale and it becomes more like an MMO.

[Mr armchair general]

These games are so ffin boring. "build your base etc oooh how cool, build your estate. blaha blaha" Yet there is no purpose. Why gather resources to build a "base" were all you do is store other reesources in a game where you are basically alone and yeah i aint talking about other players im talking about a living world of npc with their own agenda filling up your "base". Thes games are so friggin boooooring. Just slap a new facepaint on it and call it something.

[Freeman]

Originally posted by wildbill:

Originally posted by Power:

Sounds more like you're burned out of crafting survival games. At least this one has a story with great voice acting. Asking "What's the point" is always kind of dumb. What's the point of minecraft? To build something pretty. That's literally the entire point.

Not true. There is a clear end goal in Minecraft, which is to kill the dragon. For those that like an end goal, that can be it.

I have no idea what the end goal in this game is. I am pretty sure you never escape and make it back to wherever it is your character came from.

I too like a goal, an obvious progression indicator. Normally this is your character level. Pretty sure there is no character level. Or at least a skill tree. Nope.

I didn't see any point and honestly was not having fun with the craft, then craft and improved version of the same thing mechanic. The long waits for crafting are also boring. If you could start it and come back while doing something it would not be bad, but it is all the micromanaging of starting it, waiting, getting the item, and repeating that 10 times that makes it boring.

I personally think they released it too soon. Some of your issues are a 'you' thing, as a lot of these games dont have an overarching goal, the main reason people play them is to gather things to make more things that build things to gather more things to build more things, that's literally the loop.

However, this one they have got plans for a longer term goal, and said they have put breadcrumbs for this in the game at this point but nothing more. They would have been better off making a demo for it imo, it's annoyed me they think this is worth putting out for sale and probably wont look at the game again now as to me it smells of greed. Almost like they said 'yeah that'll do lets start charging 'em' with no regard for how that comes across. That shows in the reviews and will surely affect the future of this game, a lot of people will see 'mixed' and look no further, and that's on the devs for not having it ready enough.

[wildbill]

Originally posted by Freeman:

Originally posted by wildbill:

Not true. There is a clear end goal in Minecraft, which is to kill the dragon. For those that like an end goal, that can be it.

I have no idea what the end goal in this game is. I am pretty sure you never escape and make it back to wherever it is your character came from.

I too like a goal, an obvious progression indicator. Normally this is your character level. Pretty sure there is no character level. Or at least a skill tree. Nope.

I didn't see any point and honestly was not having fun with the craft, then craft and improved version of the same thing mechanic. The long waits for crafting are also boring. If you could start it and come back while doing something it would not be bad, but it is all the micromanaging of starting it, waiting, getting the item, and repeating that 10 times that makes it boring.

I personally think they released it too soon. Some of your issues are a 'you' thing, as a lot of these games dont have an overarching goal, the main reason people play them is to gather things to make more things that build things to gather more things to build more things, that's literally the loop.

However, this one they have got plans for a longer term goal, and said they have put breadcrumbs for this in the game at this point but nothing more. They would have been better off making a demo for it imo, it's annoyed me they think this is worth putting out for sale and probably wont look at the game again now as to me it smells of greed. Almost like they said 'yeah that'll do lets start charging 'em' with no regard for how that comes across. That shows in the reviews and will surely affect the future of this game, a lot of people will see 'mixed' and look no further, and that's on the devs for not having it ready enough.

I need some kind of goal. As long as I find a goal and have fun getting to that goal. Once I reach the goal, I'll just start over again and do it all over as long as the game allows for some variation and the game isn't exactly the same each time. I might play with a friend, do it a bit different, but when the end goal is reached, that is usually it for me, I quit that character and start over. I just don't see what the goal is here.

[DocBockNstein]

You did not actually buy a survival game you bought a live service game that turns into destiny once you hit endgame.

[wildbill]

Originally posted by DocBockNstein:

You did not actually buy a survival game you bought a live service game that turns into destiny once you hit endgame.

No idea what that means, but apparently means I made a mistake. Oh well, was only $30, but I can still hope they will make it into a game actually worth playing

[Rogue]

To reach nightingale, obviously.

Early, it's a slog as you have nothing, mid game opens up as your variety of choices expand(like farming, now a self made man, etc), late game (farm apex vaults for loot, what not).

Too bad it has no pvp else late game is more... dynamic. E.g Myth of empires, war machines and chaos, guild vs guild, death and destruction... Then it's real whine of being a loser, all the excuses come popping up... lol.

[Wrothbog]

it's early access, the giant block of text on the store page describes that it's DELIBERATELY missing features that will be added later

one of which is the namesake city of nightingale isn't present in the current game.

the point of the released game is to reach nightingale. all the crafting and base building you do on the way is to facilitate reaching nightingale.

so right now there is no structured goal. congrats your thread title is 100% correct welcome to early access. you get to playtest an unfinished game and provide feedback to ideally make it better

[Voodoocola]

Funniest Part in this Thread is there would be no Story, there is. ANother funny Part is there is no Goal, the Goal of the Game is to reach Nightingale. The Endgoal isnt implemented yet since its Early Access. People buy Games and judge Games without even knowing what they are talking about. I`m still on the Fence of buying but I know more about the Game than actual players ...