(Updated: third person confirmed) Why is no 3rd person a problem for people?

[Sir Mansel of Macsen]

[July Edit : It seems there is third-person now, which is good, given how many had issues with First person only, though I'll leave this question up as a discussion about the topic]

I came on here because I love what I've seen of the game already and wanted to see what other people were saying about it, but I see a lot of hate getting thrown at it for not having a Third person view (at least as far as we know).

I have to ask, why is this such a problem for others? I genuinely don't understand.

I'm more than happy with the First person perspective, mostly due to my love of FPS games, and my enjoyment of other open world survival games that are First person only like The Forest, Rust, The Long Dark, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and Metro: Exodus. Even in games where I had the option to switch perspectives, like the Elder Scrolls / Fallout games, ARMA 2 and 3, Minecraft, or Starwars Battlefront 2 (the Good one, not the "pride and accomplishment" one), I still preferred the FPS view.

Its not even that I hate Third person view, lord knows I have plenty of TPSs in my library at the moment (Go play Remnant: from the ashes... RIGHT NOW) I just don't understand what difference it makes other than seeing the viewmodel, and I would love some clarification if possible.

[BigBombz]

I'm one of those unfortunate people who get physically sick when playing first person games, some make me feel sick faster than others, some make me feel worse than others, why.. I can't really tell, it just is what it is.

I can't really understand why some people get upset so much when others are asking and hoping for an option to play their game in third person. I can't fathom how it is taking something away from them, it's an option, either use it or not, but more options is always better than less options in my mind.

There are a lot of games that I would have purchased if those games would have third person view option, I'm not mad about them not having it, and I'm not raving about it on forums, I just don't buy those games because I know that I'm not going to put a lot of hours on them and get my moneys worth.

And I know for certain that there are a lot of people like me who pass on games with first person game play only, most of them don't even bother to participate on these kind of discussions, they just opt out, so it would make sense for developers to cater for those customers too and make more sells and more money of their games.

I've heard rumors that there is at least an experimental third person option in this game, so if that's true and they are going to include that option I'm a happy customer, other wise I'll pass and spend my money on something else.

[Jaggid Edje]

Цитата допису BigBombz:

I've heard rumors that there is at least an experimental third person option in this game, so if that's true and they are going to include that option I'm a happy customer, other wise I'll pass and spend my money on something else.

That's a bit of good news, which I hadn't heard. I'm hoping so, because I really like what I've seen of the game so far, but without a 3rd person option, I'm not likely to play it.

I'm similar to you, but I generally don't opt-out entirely when a game I'm interested in is lacking 3rd person options. I buy it, try it, and if it doesn't feel good within the first hour or so, I refund it.

Some 1st person games I can handle, but most I cannot, so I usually do refund. I'm pretty sure whether I have issues in a game's first person or not depends mostly on the FOV. If it's high enough (without fish bowl effect), I can usually enjoy the game (unless it also has screen shake effects that cannot be disabled).

[AlexUbel989]

Цитата допису Sir Mansel of Macsen:

I came on here because I love what I've seen of the game already and wanted to see what other people were saying about it, but I see a lot of hate getting thrown at it for not having a Third person view (at least as far as we know).

I have to ask, why is this such a problem for others? I genuinely don't understand.

I'm more than happy with the First person perspective, mostly due to my love of FPS games, and my enjoyment of other open world survival games that are First person only like The Forest, Rust, The Long Dark, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and Metro: Exodus. Even in games where I had the option to switch perspectives, like the Elder Scrolls / Fallout games, ARMA 2 and 3, Minecraft, or Starwars Battlefront 2 (the Good one, not the "pride and accomplishment" one), I still preferred the FPS view.

Its not even that I hate Third person view, lord knows I have plenty of TPSs in my library at the moment (Go play Remnant: from the ashes... RIGHT NOW) I just don't understand what difference it makes other than seeing the viewmodel, and I would love some clarification if possible.

The real answer is that people just like to ♥♥♥♥♥ about anything and everything. It really is as simple as that.

[Caduryn]

3rd Person is convirmed now on their Discord

[Jaggid Edje]

Цитата допису Caduryn:

3rd Person is convirmed now on their Discord

Thank you so much for sharing that here! I haven't been checking in on the discord and that is fantastic news for those of us prone to getting nausea from first person games.

[NEON]

Third person is coming. :)

[Jinx]

Very happy they added third person. Now I can confidently add it to my wishlist and get it at release. Looking forward to it.

[Muisteloinen]

Now is same what they ad this game. I dont give money to communist china.

[Outlaw Mugen]

i mean... its not a pvp game no? So more camera options should allow playerbase to play the way they want to play. It's a win in my books.

[Rappeldrache]

Цитата допису AlexUbel989:

Цитата допису Sir Mansel of Macsen:

I came on here because I love what I've seen of the game already and wanted to see what other people were saying about it, but I see a lot of hate getting thrown at it for not having a Third person view (at least as far as we know).

I have to ask, why is this such a problem for others? I genuinely don't understand.

I'm more than happy with the First person perspective, mostly due to my love of FPS games, and my enjoyment of other open world survival games that are First person only like The Forest, Rust, The Long Dark, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and Metro: Exodus. Even in games where I had the option to switch perspectives, like the Elder Scrolls / Fallout games, ARMA 2 and 3, Minecraft, or Starwars Battlefront 2 (the Good one, not the "pride and accomplishment" one), I still preferred the FPS view.

Its not even that I hate Third person view, lord knows I have plenty of TPSs in my library at the moment (Go play Remnant: from the ashes... RIGHT NOW) I just don't understand what difference it makes other than seeing the viewmodel, and I would love some clarification if possible.

The real answer is that people just like to ♥♥♥♥♥ about anything and everything. It really is as simple as that.

The real answer is that people just like to attack other player (probably cause they like to feel superior), without reading (or just ignoring) what this people wrote before. It really is as simple as that.

To explain it again in simple words: It is called Motion sickness: SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO PLAY THIS GAME! THEY CAN'T, CAUSE THEY GET SICK (can include vomiting, sickness, dizziness) IN FIRST PERSON! They don't ask cause they have nothing to do ... And every REAL fan should have interest that their favorite game attract as many cutstomer as possible.

See here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539706/ and here: https://neurosciencenews.com/motion-sickness-theories-20173/


So it is wonderful that they have third person now. THANKS a lot to the devs.

(sorry for my english)

[PewPew Le Magnifique]

Цитата допису Sir Mansel of Macsen:

[July Edit : It seems there is third-person now, which is good, given how many had issues with First person only, though I'll leave this question up as a discussion about the topic]

I came on here because I love what I've seen of the game already and wanted to see what other people were saying about it, but I see a lot of hate getting thrown at it for not having a Third person view (at least as far as we know).

I have to ask, why is this such a problem for others? I genuinely don't understand.

I'm more than happy with the First person perspective, mostly due to my love of FPS games, and my enjoyment of other open world survival games that are First person only like The Forest, Rust, The Long Dark, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and Metro: Exodus. Even in games where I had the option to switch perspectives, like the Elder Scrolls / Fallout games, ARMA 2 and 3, Minecraft, or Starwars Battlefront 2 (the Good one, not the "pride and accomplishment" one), I still preferred the FPS view.

Its not even that I hate Third person view, lord knows I have plenty of TPSs in my library at the moment (Go play Remnant: from the ashes... RIGHT NOW) I just don't understand what difference it makes other than seeing the viewmodel, and I would love some clarification if possible.

I mainly play first person. 3rd person only game are usually a problem for me. I dont understand people who dont like immersion and first person view. Its like they CANNOT put themselves in the skin of their character and NEED to see it. I really dont get that.

[Jaggid Edje]

Цитата допису PewPew Le Magnifique:

I mainly play first person. 3rd person only game are usually a problem for me. I dont understand people who dont like immersion and first person view. Its like they CANNOT put themselves in the skin of their character and NEED to see it. I really dont get that.

Did you fail to read any of the posts by people who make it quite clear why?

People are talking about getting, quite literally, sick due to 1st person, but you think "immersion" should be so much more important to them then not becoming ill while playing a game? I mean, seriously? How can you NOT get that?

[Seekrt]

Seriously hoping for third person here. If not, then it will be a wait and see.
And I do not personally find computer first person view to be more immersive, on the contrary. (Trying to imagine a movie always showing a firts person's view. Not sure those FPS people would be so interested in their next superhero fix.)

Edit:
Btw, I do enjoy some fps but they really have to give me the atmospherics and exceptional storyline. That is generally a rarity. Most of them are shooting galeries with or without human opponents.

[Caduryn]

Цитата допису Seekrt:

Seriously hoping for third person here. If not, then it will be a wait and see.
And I do not personally find computer first person view to be more immersive, on the contrary. (Trying to imagine a movie always showing a firts person's view. Not sure those FPS people would be so interested in their next superhero fix.)

Edit:
Btw, I do enjoy some fps but they really have to give me the atmospherics and exceptional storyline. That is generally a rarity. Most of them are shooting galeries with or without human opponents.

Its confirmed like half a Year now that third person is there...

[Seekrt]

Ah ok then. Thanks.