Install Steam
login
|
language
简体中文 (Simplified Chinese)
繁體中文 (Traditional Chinese)
日本語 (Japanese)
한국어 (Korean)
ไทย (Thai)
Български (Bulgarian)
Čeština (Czech)
Dansk (Danish)
Deutsch (German)
Español - España (Spanish - Spain)
Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America)
Ελληνικά (Greek)
Français (French)
Italiano (Italian)
Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)
Magyar (Hungarian)
Nederlands (Dutch)
Norsk (Norwegian)
Polski (Polish)
Português (Portuguese - Portugal)
Português - Brasil (Portuguese - Brazil)
Română (Romanian)
Русский (Russian)
Suomi (Finnish)
Svenska (Swedish)
Türkçe (Turkish)
Tiếng Việt (Vietnamese)
Українська (Ukrainian)
Report a translation problem
Discussions Rules and Guidelines
Report this post
Well my PC does meet all the other minimum specs also this topic was more if a generalization not just this game but large software in general needing to be on SSDs this is a very new thing to have to be on specific storage medium regardless of the device's performance
A 3ghz CPU form 2012 is not the same as one from like 2020
DDR3 Ram is not the same as DDR4/5
Your 1080 is not a 1080 because your System bottlenecks it to dead.
Also, they are going to UE5, so the Requirements you see here on Steam are Void.
My SSDs are 9 months old today and they STILL function like a dream come true.
The point is it's not your GPU's fault, nor your SSD'S FAULT (damn I wish I knew how to highlight, given SSD already has capitalized letters) for your computer's bottle neck problem.
Upgrading ether further will NOT help your system issue.
You need to upgrade your CPU and RAM, hopefully not your motherboard also or any other components (probably will though, given it's an old CPU so the motherboard may not take a new CPU. I only started looking to tech two years ago to build this computer I have, so I'm not an expert)
Once you do that, the rest of the system will function just fine for your wants. A 1080 ti still flows just fine today (although may need to keep settings on medium to play, given the heavy requirements) the SSD you got, probably just fine.
You wasted money buying whatever AMD GPU you're talking about, unless it's a high one from the 6000 series (just type in 1080 ti vs (whatever your AMD GPU is) on youtube or google, and you should find a video or website comparing FPS) Try to keep a more careful eye next time you buy parts. Research every last part before you make a single purchase, because these are pretty damn pricey now a days, so making every purchase count is essential.
Sidenote: I find it hilarious that mid way through this discussion (I only just now started carefully reading everything lmao didn't think people could be so serious about HDD vs SSD) The devs themselves came "BTW, The requirements are going to get even MORE heavy!!" Lmao, gonna be fun, seeing Unreal 5 for the first time :D
Insofar as capabilities of prior generation game systems - a Haswell 4770K vs a Rocket Lake 11700K isn't going to be a huge change in performance depending on the game. Let's go with a GTX 1660 with both processors. Call of Duty Modern Warfare at 1080P ultra quality will get you 115.6 FPS vs 95.6 FPS (11700K vs 4770K). That's not the "HUGE PERFORMANCE JUMP!@$!" other people commented on. It's significant but it's not mind blowing. New technologies are supported though with newer CPUs/chipsets. The 11700K for instance can encode/decode more video codecs in hardware.
I have both of these processors along with a 5600X. The big performance gains in gaming are still coming from GPU upgrades. I went from a 1070 to a 3080 TI and that right there is a big jump. Motherboards can also play a big role - I've had some super cheap ones, mid range and expensive. The cheap ones can have a dramatic impairment of performance. Look at reviews. See if maybe there's an issue that can be resolved to increase performance. There will be some gaming performance gains with PCIE 3 vs 4 or whatever but PCIE 3 is still fine for most. Lanes of the PCIE slot can be affected though depending on how many PCIE cards are installed as well as when using certain storage interfaces like m.2 NVME so check your motherboard specs to see if you're reducing your bandwidth in a way that can negatively affect GPU performance.
In regards to HDD vs SSD vs NVME SSD - there are definite performance jumps at each of these tiers. If you're seeing a performance decline, you did something wrong or your motherboard is junk. I can't stress this enough - fresh install when moving from a HDD to an SSD. It's just the better solution overall. HDD speeds top out around 200MB/sec, SSD is 550MB/sec and NVME SSD drives will be limited by the generation. Gen 3 was around 3000MB/sec+ vs Gen 4 at around 7500MB/s+ (real world speeds can be less and components/controllers will affect this - entry level/mid range/high performance all apply to each generation).
I typically spec out mid to high end components and run servers on some of my systems. Running an Ark Primitive server was a lesson in patience. SSD = 15 minute startup vs NVME at 5 minutes. I'd rather not ever try it with a HDD. I haven't had a HDD in any of my systems for close to a decade. They just simply can't keep up with an SSD - it's a physical limitation. Nightingale is a game with a lot going on and it needs to be able to access information on your drive at a fast speed.
Look at consoles, PS5 requires a GEN 4 NVME drive if you want more gaming space. That's not just an SSD, that's the next technology up from SATA based SSD drives (M.2 NVME) and the next generation up from most of the ones that were common last year (GEN 3). The throughput being demanded by the PS5 is in the realm of 5000+ MB/sec vs the bog standard SSD speed of 500MB/sec in a standard sata based SSD which any current gaming system should have the ability to use since I doubt anyone is going to expect to run the game on an IDE HDD (IDE drives stopped being manufactured in 2013 - meaning phased out long before that).
HDD are bigger and slower and mainly targeted as storage these days or for media playback. I have a 4TB SSD I bought a year ago for $260. During BF I saw them dropping down to about $200 for the same size. NVME drives were getting close to that pricepoint as well with 2TB M.2 NVME drives coming in at around 125 - 150 depending on brand. Some limited time deals even less possibly. As we move into 2023, pricing will inevitably drop further as newer technologies are introduced that further increase speed or economies of scale work to lower production costs. Nightingale is being designed to take advantage of newer and more exciting technologies and that's what drives innovation and technology to always get better and better. Unfortunately, that means many systems purchased 10 years ago are becoming obsolete and/or need to be upgraded.
For those complaining about an SSD being required for this game and the 100GB requirement.. a 128GB SSD is literally $13 right now on Amazon or $17 for 256GB. If you can't afford that, you can't afford a $60 game and you're not the target audience.
Amazon sells a lot of phony products for cheap. How and why I don't know, but things like say Quest 2 headset (not the console itself, this is just a quick example) you can find dozens of copies, of various qualities, of the same headset that Facebook sells. The issue is, will those copies hold up the same as the official stuff?
Sometimes yes, but in the case of SSDs and various storage expansions, I've heard plenty of ether it's stuffed full, wasn't actually the storage size but 10x smaller, or the data corrupts on them, then it's gone forever. With that track record, they probably break a hell of a lot faster too.
When it comes to computer component, don't absolutely cheap out (I mean, that's how we got these epic GPUs to work) if you find a SSD you like, check the reviews out. If it only has full mark ratings with basic "it works" reviews, AVOID IT because the company only bloated their own reviews. If it has absolutely no reviews, Don't Be Their Guinea Pig, don't buy it.
I'd seriously just say look around much more legitimate stores like Best Buy or Micro Center (Heck, I've heard Micro Center gives SSDs away for free, but I don't live near one so I've never been in one. They did keep GPUs in stock though, even if it was just the 3rd party mark up ones) They often have decent enough sales, At the time of my first comment here, they had 1TB for 60 dollars.
These stores also have a much easier return policy, rather than fighting with an Amazon associate who's job for some reason is to make returning so much more difficult (just to start, I've heard they want YOU on the hook for shipping back. And if you're fool enough to do it, the company usually ghosts you after.)
These systems are expensive, your money is valuable, please make informed choices via doing research, rather than half assing it and ending up with a computer that doesn't work for what you want it to... Like OP
Microsoft Flight for me takes up over 250GB and I would happily take a game with more space then chopped content etc.
Back in 2010 and before when games where like 2GB... Fine, but advances in technology etc has made games bigger, so it's fine!
These are name brand legit drives shipped by Amazon. The price I quoted is near the bottom sure but pricing has been under 10 cents/GB for a while especially for sata SSD drives. The $17 256GB drive for instance is Silicon Power and that company has been around for 20 years.
In regards to returning products to Amazon - you probably bought from a third party with a different return policy? If you buy from Amazon as the seller or shipped by Amazon you shouldn't ever have an issue. I return stuff all the time and never talk to an associate... You just click the return button.
For the HDD users - good luck. UE 5+ has some assett streaming functions which rely on loading data from a drive. If they push that technology hard for Nightingale it's going to be jarring if the level loads in slower than intended with graphical issues / things popping in/out. I assume they will so they can have large detailed worlds like they show in the video clips.
--I think most people here missed the point completely.
OP was omitting the fact that he's running a going on 10 year old PC for his reasoning of being p*ssed.
He hooked a far newer GPU up to that PC's 10 year old CPU, and gets pissed that he was massively bottlenecked. He blamed the bottleneck on the SSD, but we pointed out that DDR3 RAM is probably much more culpable than the new SSD.
Everything becomes outdated at some point. "Futureproofing' is really only a term to wonder if you'll get 4-6 years of use out of it. None of these parts will hold up forever, due to usage wearing them down, and due to technology for creating new programs becoming more and more advance (F*ck, we might even stop using PCs in 10 years, call them., erm.,, YCs! and look back at anyone describing their PC and go "LMAO you still use a PC?! XD")