Dealing with cheaters!

[ricardo.laranjeira.74]

Everyone know that this game genre is full of cheaters, it's not new, it's been like this since onlline games became to be. Now cheats became a source for dubious people to make money, and you open your system when you install their tools... Good for you.

Now about banning players, let them play, just flag them and make them play with other cheaters and bots. Also in their Avatar picture give them a stamp letting other players know who's who...

[Strider VM]

Yeah, it's the least you can do. Observe them. If they are still blatantly cheating. Report them. That's why there's a lot of anti cheat stuff, like invisible bots and bot only lobbies.

[cunawarit]

I don't like the current anti-cheat approach of kernel level software that's prone to issues like CVE-2020-36603. You just shouldn't be running kernel level software that increases your attack surface like this. A much better solution is either manual checking of reports or server level AI driven anti-cheat.

The current approach should be stopped by Microsoft.

[Strider VM]

Originally posted by cunawarit:

I don't like the current anti-cheat approach of kernel level software that's prone to issues like CVE-2020-36603. You just shouldn't be running kernel level software that increases your attack surface like this. A much better solution is either manual checking of reports or server level AI driven anti-cheat.

The current approach should be stopped by Microsoft.

Can you elaborate on this? You keep mentioning CVE-2020-36603. But if I Google it, all I see is Genshin Impact. What is the relation? Is the developer behind Genshin Impact the same as this game?

[cunawarit]

Sure, I can elaborate, no the devs are not the same. But many anti-cheat systems run at kernel level and this is dangerous. That CVE I posted shows that anti-cheat software can be exploited, it is an example of the security issues that can arise by running anti-cheat software in a system.

Installing anti-cheat software, especially software that requires elevated privileges, poses a potential risk to your system's security. Running software with heightened permissions expands the potential attack surface, making your system more vulnerable to cyberattacks. While gaming software may require certain privileges, granting elevated access to such programs should be done with caution. Even software from reputable companies can contain vulnerabilities that could be exploited by malicious actors.

I do have a Windows install with anti-cheat software, but that install is just for games. I don't do ANYTHING in that install other than play games, if that system is infected I don't care, there's nothing to be stolen and I can nuke it and be OK with it.

That's generally my recommendation, never run anti-cheat software on any system you do anything other than game with. Don't do your taxes, don't keep important files, and don't log in to websites other than whatever you need to get your games. Ideally don't run anti-cheat software at all! But if you are going to do it, do it in as separate a system as possible.

PS: Microsoft's driver signing program is fundamentally broken, they should've disallowed this kind of anti-cheat software from the start.

[RedX]

Originally posted by cunawarit:

Sure, I can elaborate, no the devs are not the same. But many anti-cheat systems run at kernel level and this is dangerous. That CVE I posted shows that anti-cheat software can be exploited, it is an example of the security issues that can arise by running anti-cheat software in a system.

Installing anti-cheat software, especially software that requires elevated privileges, poses a potential risk to your system's security. Running software with heightened permissions expands the potential attack surface, making your system more vulnerable to cyberattacks. While gaming software may require certain privileges, granting elevated access to such programs should be done with caution. Even software from reputable companies can contain vulnerabilities that could be exploited by malicious actors.

I do have a Windows install with anti-cheat software, but that install is just for games. I don't do ANYTHING in that install other than play games, if that system is infected I don't care, there's nothing to be stolen and I can nuke it and be OK with it.

That's generally my recommendation, never run anti-cheat software on any system you do anything other than game with. Don't do your taxes, don't keep important files, and don't log in to websites other than whatever you need to get your games. Ideally don't run anti-cheat software at all! But if you are going to do it, do it in as separate a system as possible.

PS: Microsoft's driver signing program is fundamentally broken, they should've disallowed this kind of anti-cheat software from the start.

Jesus dude, you need teraphy and brainmeds, no one is going to steal your png collection using some anticheat exploit.

[mew]

point taken indeed, IMHO if one has nothing to worry about i.e not cheating, then one should live one's life peacefully... and let the cheaters burn in a pyre if ashes accordingly...

[Gumby]

Yeah the amount of aimbotters in this game is getting out of control.