This game is not fun for new players.

[Froggy B]

The gameplay is incredibly fun, but this is not fun to play as a newbie who still hasn't unlocked anything/learned characters because there is absolutely always at least one or two people curbstomping/surpassing everyone else INCLUDING ON THEIR OWN TEAM.

I have yet to win a single game because it's that lopsided. I'll take waiting longer for a game I feel like I have a chance with than 10 losses in a row since there's also no match-leaving option. At least make a total newbie matchmaking pool or something, c'mon.

[Kamina]

Play with bots then. Not trying to be that guy but this truly sounds like a skill issue. I haven't had any game be as lopsided as you're saying and I am new as well. Practice with bots until you're comfortable. Not really much else to say

[Froggy B]

Originally posted by Kamina:

Play with bots then. Not trying to be that guy but this truly sounds like a skill issue. I haven't had any game be as lopsided as you're saying and I am new as well. Practice with bots until you're comfortable. Not really much else to say

You don't get experience, rewards, or hero tickets (the things you need to unlock new heroes to practice) if you play with bots, though, which is part of the problem.

Maybe it's not a skill issue to you, but I have never played a MOBA before.

[emmerich]

ohhh so its a skill issue... ohhh maybe try playing smite or somethin first bro idk. league?

[Light]

Originally posted by emmerich:

ohhh so its a skill issue... ohhh maybe try playing smite or somethin first bro idk. league?

if op is having issues with this game, league will demolish em.

[Froggy B]

Originally posted by emmerich:

ohhh so its a skill issue... ohhh maybe try playing smite or somethin first bro idk. league?

Ah yes, skill issue, the siren call of people who overcompensate their other massive personal issues with smugly claiming that they're good at a video game.

Smite is a pay2win mess and League is a cesspool for the worst dregs of humanity.

The two main reasons I got this game were the interesting character designs and no battlepass/nickel and dime content. I still expect it to be at least somewhat accessible to new players.

[Light]

only thing I can recommend is learning which character best fits your style and which of the 2 abilities for that character works for you in the practice mode. if you can manage to learn 1 character, learn a few others since more than likely someone in the q might snag something you've just learned. gotta be more versatile in this game, much like other hero like games.

[Froggy B]

Originally posted by LightKagerou:

only thing I can recommend is learning which character best fits your style and which of the 2 abilities for that character works for you in the practice mode. if you can manage to learn 1 character, learn a few others since more than likely someone in the q might snag something you've just learned. gotta be more versatile in this game, much like other hero like games.

I have been trying to learn Voden. The problem is no one else on my team uses my healing pools or takes advantage of my poison.

[Light]

Originally posted by Froggy B:

Originally posted by LightKagerou:

only thing I can recommend is learning which character best fits your style and which of the 2 abilities for that character works for you in the practice mode. if you can manage to learn 1 character, learn a few others since more than likely someone in the q might snag something you've just learned. gotta be more versatile in this game, much like other hero like games.

I have been trying to learn Voden. The problem is no one else on my team uses my healing pools or takes advantage of my poison.

ah, so its a team issue. yea I get that. from playing a number of games since the game's return, I'm noticing a trend of folks who don't know how a lot of characters work. you can be a healer/shield dmg type character and trying to help your teammates go about killing the ops and your team is simply lollygagging while you're getting 1v3 or 1v5. I get it though.

[Chef Excellence]

Has not been my experience at all- players seem to be roughly evenly matched in skill across my games so far. Haven't seen any 'curbstomping,' if anything teams seem to win or lose together and have relatively similar scores.

You really are 0-10 so far? It sounds like you are saying you are losing consistently. I am curious if you want to share some match data

[vainglory]

Like it or not, games like these are powered by casuals. When a multiplayer game stops being able to attract and hold new players, its days are numbered. Skill issue or not, games need to be able to ease new players into their mechanics. And the community needs to help with that, too, because nothing drives people away faster than a toxic userbase.

That being said I personally have not found the game *too* hard to get into, but I did also start playing alongside a friend who played a fair bit before the game first died, and the MOBA mechanics seem simpler than Battleborn's which makes it a bit easier for me to get into it. My suggestion would be to find a friend or two to play with because communication makes all the difference. E.g. I'd play. . . uh, pink tank girl and my friend would play the big armored boy and we'd focus objectives and gank stray enemies, and that seemed to work okay enough.

[Froggy B]

Originally posted by Chef Excellence:

Has not been my experience at all- players seem to be roughly evenly matched in skill across my games so far. Haven't seen any 'curbstomping,' if anything teams seem to win or lose together and have relatively similar scores.

You really are 0-10 so far? It sounds like you are saying you are losing consistently. I am curious if you want to share some match data

For some reason it's only showing seven, hell if I know why...
I know some of these are because I didn't have crossplay off, but turning it off has not made the games better. The leave was the server lagging out and at that point I was sick of losing anyway so I didn't bother trying to come back. The one featured match was the best I did and we still lost.

Look at that discrepancy in efficiency numbers, though. This is every match.

https://i.imgur.com/bmISXPo.png

[Inuakurei]

Gigantic is a pretty team oriented game. You say you're trying to learn Voden, but are you ALWAYS playing Voden? Even when your team has no healers or tanks?

[Froggy B]

Originally posted by Inuakurei:

Gigantic is a pretty team oriented game. You say you're trying to learn Voden, but are you ALWAYS playing Voden? Even when your team has no healers or tanks?

I am aware it's team-oriented. Did you not read the part where I said my teammates don't use my heals or poisons?
There's always at least one tank player, and I mean, Voden is a hybrid and provides AOE team healing. The tentacle lady whose name i can't spell off the top of my head is a debuff support not a healer, and I don't think I have any of the actual healers unlocked yet (I think Sven is supposed to be a debuffer/status support?)

Also, I assumed the best method was to focus on learning one hero at a time instead of splitting my attention between ten at once.

[Inuakurei]

Originally posted by Froggy B:

Originally posted by Inuakurei:

Gigantic is a pretty team oriented game. You say you're trying to learn Voden, but are you ALWAYS playing Voden? Even when your team has no healers or tanks?

I am aware it's team-oriented. Did you not read the part where I said my teammates don't use my heals or poisons?
There's always at least one tank player, and I mean, Voden is a hybrid and provides AOE team healing. The tentacle lady whose name i can't spell off the top of my head is a debuff support not a healer, and I don't think I have any of the actual healers unlocked yet (I think Sven is supposed to be a debuffer/status support?)

Also, I assumed the best method was to focus on learning one hero at a time instead of splitting my attention between ten at once.

Well nothing you've said is wrong, you seem to have the right idea. The only advice I can think to give is to focus on damage as Voden. He has supportive stuff, but he's primarily a midrange dps. I don't think many players pay attention to Voden as a source of healing.

Oh I did think of one more thing. In terms of builds, I remember the multi shot being my go to over the long range talen. I never played Voden as a long range attacker, I found hes far more effective mid to close range, applying poison and juking with clones. In fact, I think a lot of the "decrease ranged falloff damage" talents are a trap.

Like 80% of survivability in this game is learning movement. How to jump around, when to conserve stamina, when its time to gfto, when to yolo in, who can chase you, who can't, etc. Voden's jump height on his puddle helps a lot with mobility. But learning all that comes with playtime.

But other than that, I got nothin. You seem like a good chap. Sometimes the 0-10 loser queue just hits ya.

[Oku]

I'm sorry but I just do not know what you want.

Every competitive game in existence is difficult for new players to pick up because, surprise, the other people you're against are also trying to win, and nobody is just going to play worse on purpose so you can win and not get discouraged.

If you're not capable of having fun even when you're not winning, then just don't play competitive games.