Hope for Riley?

[draksig]

My favorite girl is Riley. Always wished she was a girlfriend option. Well, when I got to the running scene and she rejected my advance because I had a girlfriend (Nora), well this confused me. She did the dirty with me at the sex museum and she knew I had a girlfriend then, why now. So I ran the scenario again without a girlfriend and got the option to ask her to be my girlfriend. While she didn't say no, she didn't say yes but wait, she didn't want this to happen while she was all sweaty. Maybe there is finally hope for a Riley girlfriend option on the horizon.

[Rob]

You also get the option to ask Lindsay and she says no but maybe in the future , so maybe they are opening it up to more girls , Heres hoping Amber also gets added to the list

[DeadBeat61]

Bottom row of the gallery, 3rd scene is called "celebrating a new relationship" and it appears to be Riley, though it's hard to tell since it's blurry. I've tried all the choices during the running scene, but none result in her saying yes. Wondering if it isn't bugged

[XianE]

Personally I hope not, since I like bro-Riley that's having her own bi storyline happening to the side of the story over getting with the MC. Makes her more unique and like a secondary MC of her own story, not to mention there being plenty of wlw options for her that fit so much more than the MC. If anything CK2's intro brought to my mind that I did NOT want a romance pushed, because of it acting as if the player pushed for a relationship with her vs. brotp. Certain characters are better as bro's and casual hookups, not romantic options; Riley, Aubrey, and Chloe fall into that category. It'd be so disappointing seeing her having gone through a whole ass arc of exploring her sexuality just to be shoved as just another waifu. I LOVE Riley and would rather her maintain her unique-ness as a brotp for the MC that talks about the hot girls around them and hook ups, rather than a girlfriend who's only into the MC.

If being honest I'd rather see Aubrey x Riley be a thing and/or Riley x Lindsey that was hinted at during the pool party over being put with the MC as just another femme hook up written with MC romance in mind (-cough- CK2 Aubrey who suddenly is focused only on the MC and thus lost some of what made her great as well -cough-).

Just wanting to mention getting a good laugh at the Jester react, morons can't stand the idea of an independent bi femme doing her own thing not shoved under a dude. Really reflects on the pathetic-ness of you.

[johanlouwet78]

Apparently Riley can be dated as I have seen in the gallery a sex scene where they celebrate their new relationship but since the game keeps kicking me in the karaoke scene I'll wait a for a fix to do a proper Riley run (perhaps right from the very start).

[nicholas.lin]

Personally I would suggest Lauren for Riley. Riley already being most involved in Lauren's Lingerie start-up and as her main muse. It make's sense. Another choice is Amber. In fact maybe Amber is best its a better story-line as it their involvement started in the Euro trip.

[XianE]

Originally posted by nicholas.lin:

Personally I would suggest Lauren for Riley. Riley already being most involved in Lauren's Lingerie start-up and as her main muse. It make's sense. Another choice is Amber. In fact maybe Amber is best its a better story-line as it their involvement started in the Euro trip.

You mean Lauren x Riley? Cause I could run with that, especially assuming the Lauren/Riley/MC threesome scene is part of main canon; cause I've seen some saying its been moved into premium content but not sure myself. Amber would be equally as good, especially if them having a second relationship was a result of Amber going clean from drugs .

[johanlouwet78]

Originally posted by nicholas.lin:

Personally I would suggest Lauren for Riley. Riley already being most involved in Lauren's Lingerie start-up and as her main muse. It make's sense. Another choice is Amber. In fact maybe Amber is best its a better story-line as it their involvement started in the Euro trip.

My favorite combo is Lauren as gf and fwb with Riley, Amber and Samantha.
Hower I think you can have those 3 as fwb when dating Nora, Aubrey, Penelope or Chloe.
Autumn doesn't mind who you are dating except when it's ofc Lauren.
I don't usually go for Lindsey as a fwb but I guess dating one of the Chicks might put her off at some point.
No interest in Ms Rose (but I'm always Ape so she ain't an option), Emily, Naomi or Jenny.

[OZZ]

your wish is granted Riley can be your girlfriend just figured it out in builder put here as FWB you want to be a wolf and set to confident lock it goto museum with her go in closet next you want to go jogging with her when Nora gives you the sandwich say yulk avacoto next scene give sandwich to Riley then go on jog with her at end ask her to be your girlfriend she turns you down but its not a no at the dinner you can talk to her complament her dress and she will ask to meet you in hallway after dinner all you have to do is ask her

[PaddyObanion]

Originally posted by OZZ:

your wish is granted Riley can be your girlfriend just figured it out in builder put here as FWB you want to be a wolf and set to confident lock it goto museum with her go in closet next you want to go jogging with her when Nora gives you the sandwich say yulk avacoto next scene give sandwich to Riley then go on jog with her at end ask her to be your girlfriend she turns you down but its not a no at the dinner you can talk to her complament her dress and she will ask to meet you in hallway after dinner all you have to do is ask her

I gave Riley a bite of the sandwich and got her to be gf, as an fyi Riley says not to ask her when she's all sweaty

[BedlamBetty]

Originally posted by PaddyObanion:

Originally posted by OZZ:

your wish is granted Riley can be your girlfriend just figured it out in builder put here as FWB you want to be a wolf and set to confident lock it goto museum with her go in closet next you want to go jogging with her when Nora gives you the sandwich say yulk avacoto next scene give sandwich to Riley then go on jog with her at end ask her to be your girlfriend she turns you down but its not a no at the dinner you can talk to her complament her dress and she will ask to meet you in hallway after dinner all you have to do is ask her

I gave Riley a bite of the sandwich and got her to be gf, as an fyi Riley says not to ask her when she's all sweaty

Is that a hint that she's cheating on you?
That fits. Force players to head canon the ♥♥♥♥ out of the story instead of showing them, or even telling them.
Lock players out of cross current relationships, in order to force them to go through the same story with minor variations many times.
Most importantly, reduce the number of renders and lock them behind more and more restrictions.
Outdated avn storytelling structure and piss poor writing.
This "game" killed itself. It started decently, with a lot of duct tape to the plot, but has continuously disrespected the player's time.
While so many AVNs allow the player to continue the same play through to discover all the renders and the entire story, and the ones that are purely narrative driven have gotten better, this game has floundered.
None of the characters are written well enough for anything meaningful.
If you're still interested in this AVN, you haven't played many others.

[Rob]

Originally posted by BedlamBetty:

Originally posted by PaddyObanion:

I gave Riley a bite of the sandwich and got her to be gf, as an fyi Riley says not to ask her when she's all sweaty

Is that a hint that she's cheating on you?
That fits. Force players to head canon the ♥♥♥♥ out of the story instead of showing them, or even telling them.
Lock players out of cross current relationships, in order to force them to go through the same story with minor variations many times.
Most importantly, reduce the number of renders and lock them behind more and more restrictions.
Outdated avn storytelling structure and piss poor writing.
This "game" killed itself. It started decently, with a lot of duct tape to the plot, but has continuously disrespected the player's time.
While so many AVNs allow the player to continue the same play through to discover all the renders and the entire story, and the ones that are purely narrative driven have gotten better, this game has floundered.
None of the characters are written well enough for anything meaningful.
If you're still interested in this AVN, you haven't played many others.

Wow you really have got a bad case of I want to troll the CK forums . You have started the same now in so many threads , Yet it seems you have maybe played it through so many times to get all the stories .If for you it is as bad as you say then why not just stop playing it and go play something else , It is not THE best AVN but it is certainly not the worst by any means , You slam this but in another thread you say you may possibly continue with it LOL . Makes me wonder you are just doing these troll threads for attention

[nicholas.lin]

Hope for Riley? To me if there was any girl that should be in a lesbian relationship it would be Riley. And I would say that a case could be made for Sebastian, Cameron and Grayson (bi) to be in gay relationships. Especially Cameron and Sebastian. But not together.

[XianE]

Originally posted by nicholas.lin:

Hope for Riley? To me if there was any girl that should be in a lesbian relationship it would be Riley. And I would say that a case could be made for Sebastian, Cameron and Grayson (bi) to be in gay relationships. Especially Cameron and Sebastian. But not together.

From what I've gathered the Riley gf path is buried and just 1 optional path (and seemingly going by certain scene the story is leaning towards Nora being it) that has her pushed w/ the MC; which goes towards the creatives likely not putting a huge amount towards it vs. treating it as the side path that it is. Which means her likely continuing to have LGBT+ relationships and probably continuing with casual sex with the MC for everyone that doesn't do the Riley path; similar to when Aubrey as a gf was pushed only to settle if player rejected the idea. Outside of Achievements I can easily say that like with Aubrey and even more adamantly in Riley's case, I refuse to go down that path as someone who does love & respect the character of Riley to not see her reduced to just another girlfriend.

Oh and Sebastian ABSOLUTELY does give off mlm vibes. Him, Faris, and Ryan.

[nicholas.lin]

Originally posted by XianE:

Originally posted by nicholas.lin:

Hope for Riley? To me if there was any girl that should be in a lesbian relationship it would be Riley. And I would say that a case could be made for Sebastian, Cameron and Grayson (bi) to be in gay relationships. Especially Cameron and Sebastian. But not together.

From what I've gathered the Riley gf path is buried and just 1 optional path (and seemingly going by certain scene the story is leaning towards Nora being it) that has her pushed w/ the MC; which goes towards the creatives likely not putting a huge amount towards it vs. treating it as the side path that it is. Which means her likely continuing to have LGBT+ relationships and probably continuing with casual sex with the MC for everyone that doesn't do the Riley path; similar to when Aubrey as a gf was pushed only to settle if player rejected the idea. Outside of Achievements I can easily say that like with Aubrey and even more adamantly in Riley's case, I refuse to go down that path as someone who does love & respect the character of Riley to not see her reduced to just another girlfriend.

Oh and Sebastian ABSOLUTELY does give off mlm vibes. Him, Faris, and Ryan.

Really "reduced to just another girlfriend."??? How is being the MC's gf in any way a negative romantic outcome for a romance-able female character?

As for Riley her girlfriend path is either Lauren or Aubrey - I feel that there is no going back to having Amber as an option for Riley. As for Sebastian - with the assistance of Imre and the MC will choose Ryan. Ryan is obvious candidate. Since he idolises Grayson. Who I feel never truely loved Chloe. And him wearing lipstick as part of his WinterVersus look for his fight says it all. And their appearance at the yacht party to me has very gay vibes. So I say they are a possible couple. And as for the MC's choice of girlfriend and gameplay I say that's up to the player. For me Chloe is my favourite. But I see that the game wants Nora to be the choice of the MC.

[XianE]

Originally posted by nicholas.lin:

Originally posted by XianE:

From what I've gathered the Riley gf path is buried and just 1 optional path (and seemingly going by certain scene the story is leaning towards Nora being it) that has her pushed w/ the MC; which goes towards the creatives likely not putting a huge amount towards it vs. treating it as the side path that it is. Which means her likely continuing to have LGBT+ relationships and probably continuing with casual sex with the MC for everyone that doesn't do the Riley path; similar to when Aubrey as a gf was pushed only to settle if player rejected the idea. Outside of Achievements I can easily say that like with Aubrey and even more adamantly in Riley's case, I refuse to go down that path as someone who does love & respect the character of Riley to not see her reduced to just another girlfriend.

Oh and Sebastian ABSOLUTELY does give off mlm vibes. Him, Faris, and Ryan.

Really "reduced to just another girlfriend."??? How is being the MC's gf in any way a negative romantic outcome for a romance-able female character?

As for Riley her girlfriend path is either Lauren or Aubrey - I feel that there is no going back to having Amber as an option for Riley. As for Sebastian - with the assistance of Imre and the MC will choose Ryan. Ryan is obvious candidate. Since he idolises Grayson. Who I feel never truely loved Chloe. And him wearing lipstick as part of his WinterVersus look for his fight says it all. And their appearance at the yacht party to me has very gay vibes. So I say they are a possible couple. And as for the MC's choice of girlfriend and gameplay I say that's up to the player. For me Chloe is my favourite. But I see that the game wants Nora to be the choice of the MC.

Let's see:

- Shuts off other routes that allow her to explore her sexuality freely via having other relationships. Hell just look at what happened with Aubrey when they decided to do a push for her girlfriend path. Broke up her and Riley, shoved her into monogamy advocate vs. free love type and drastically shut off any other interests she could have cause she was honed in on a relationship with the MC
- Even if it comes from a biphobic territory takes some away from her LGBT+ status as gives bigots a way of ignoring it via a straight passing relationship and the other side can say "she was always just a straight girl getting with girls for service". All of which damages her bi realization arc to have her end up with the guy from the start that she's treated as a bro for most of the game so far. Actually because of a particular show being released today its brought an example to my mind of a similar thing to this: In Star Wars: TLJ and Rise of Skywalker, where Rey in one is said to NOT be a Skywalker (which was a breath of fresh air), only for RoS to backtrack, bend, and contort to do a "actually she IS a Skywalker" that massively disappointed people wanting to have a story not revolve around one family like in so many other stories that do that. It would've been so much more unique, invigorating, and better for them to have stuck with Rey being unrelated. Same applies to Riley just as a matter of her sexuality and ending up with the MC.
- Falls into the notion of a femmes always inevitably wanting relationships with the MC vs. her being a bro w/ benefits where she's enjoying casual sex, just like the MC, as part of her embracing of her sexuality by keeping it as casual sex.
- Takes away from her being a bro and independent
- Honestly the MC just doesn't deserve or match with Riley as more than bro's. Like he's fine as an MC and is fitting as a bro; but more than that = nope. They also don't have that level of chemistry.
- Something else is that Riley is likely only romance-able in terms of girlfriend, because people kept asking for it. Not because it fits within the story, relationships, and characterizations put forward. That can be fine, but in this case detracts from the unique-ness of the femme character by shifting her from her likely original just a bro for casual hookups role.

All of this pulling her away from unique not seeking a relationship or being pulled under the MC's "charm", instead having sex purely for fun and enjoyment with nothing else to it bro; to instead her the same as any other girl in the game that has been deemed as a girlfriend option.

If she were a character that wasn't established as a bro w/ benefits it wouldn't be such a swerve and degrading thing (i.e. Nora, Penelope, and Chloe) as they're setup as that. Riley on the other hand has been treated as an independent, bi, exploring her sexuality with multiple parties, casual sex wanting, talking w/ the MC about the hot girls, and just "shooting the ♥♥♥♥" close friend/ bro femme type that fits with the chemistry & personality of the MC. It adds uniqueness to her character that subverts/pushes against the notion that diff-gendered people can't be just friends or enjoy just casual sex without anything more to it; especially for femmes that are almost always guaranteed to want more "cause femme" gender typing. Riley and MC can screw in the library, then go off to potentially get in relationships with others cause its just casual sex. This is also why I love Autumn's dynamic, because she too is in the camp of bro w/ benefits and having sex with the MC as a means of exploring her own sexuality within A-spec without any strings attached.

I actually throw Lindsey in the mix given that she's set up for a similar bi realization + Riley's eyebrow raise when mentioning her flirting with the femme store clerk + Lindsey also being in the camp of casual sex with MC that stays there (also they're both in the Chicks so it'd make them hanging out way easier similar to Aubrey).

While I don't personally see them going back to Amber, I wouldn't say there's nothing to it in the case of Amber going clean as it'd shift her from where she was in CK1.

Aubrey definitely has seeds in place given how 2-03 ends with her and Riley exchanging admiration for each other's bodies + kissing; this time with Aubrey having already been romantically deviated from (for ones like myself) there'd be no push towards her being monogamous with the MC.

Sebastian's entire vibe is gay/bi-coded imho and Ryan definitely bi-coded. And its not even like the cases of Aubrey and Riley where there's the option of anything with the MC; so I don't particularly see an issue if they want to go that direction (which the creatives clearly are pro-LGBT+)

What I mean is that things like Nora being the one when your MC comes back to the house instead of x,y, z alts as well as the heavy emphasis on that story path = suggesting that its the one the writers have in mind when progressing the story writing. They aren't shutting away the Chloe option for instance, but its not being written with that one in mind as they do it; instead they likely go back to do an alt path for her after, seemingly (cause I'm obviously not in the writers room).

Also ngl Chloe in the bro's path from CK1 to CK2 (cause its hard af or maybe just against my nature to build up the bond with her in CK1) then choosing to go to her bedroom after the president vote to enter into a relationship = solid route vs. her proper romance route. Just cause of how different bro-Chloe is, like I love the scene where MC and her are gaming; not as romantic interests but just chilling like bros; then having that become something more after a big moment for her that has her self-reflecting (at least in the she loses route). Bro-Chloe is up there for me, romance-Chloe is okay at least in CK1; since I haven't really put a lot into her romance from the start of CK2 (I did a cleanup run for her Achievements but again romance-Chloe is just okay for me vs. bro-Chloe). I can totally see me doing a Chloe run in that vein without any issues (because there's no bisexual realization arc involved).