This is SmackDown Here Comes the Pain 2

[AJ Rocker]

Gameplay wise this game is giving a SmackDown Here Comes the Pain vibe which is a damn good thing because that game was legendary. All devs need is to fix some character models like CM Punk and Eddie Kingston then we are good to go

[Bikanel desert]

yes HCTP is my favourite

[DarkBoolen]

I thought this was gonna be like No Mercy. Just watched the trailer and it looks nothing like No Mercy. Wasn't that the game they where originally hyping this to be like? I'm confused 🤔

[AJ Rocker]

Originally posted by DarkBoolen:

I thought this was gonna be like No Mercy. Just watched the trailer and it looks nothing like No Mercy. Wasn't that the game they where originally hyping this to be like? I'm confused 🤔

It looks and feels more like SmackDown HCTP and that game was mind blowing back in the PS2 era so I am not complaining

[[MDI]]

Originally posted by DarkBoolen:

I thought this was gonna be like No Mercy. Just watched the trailer and it looks nothing like No Mercy. Wasn't that the game they where originally hyping this to be like? I'm confused 🤔

Gameplay, for sure. If you're referring to the graphics, yeah I'd say its very much PS2 or even PS3 era. Either way, this game is made for people who enjoyed that era of wrestling games.

[Kankaku]

To me it seems more like SvR 06-08. Which is great because those were halfway in between sim and arcade, was absolutely perfect in my opinion. Especially 06, because you could stack tables.

[KaosRebourne]

It's crazy how people can see the same footage, and get something completely different from it...Because all I see, is No Mercy when I see this, just better looking. Either way, I'm gonna play the hell out of it.

[NathW14]

Originally posted by KaosRebourne:

It's crazy how people can see the same footage, and get something completely different from it...Because all I see, is No Mercy when I see this, just better looking. Either way, I'm gonna play the hell out of it.

It looks absolutely nothing like No Mercy, and if Kenny had never brought up early on about wanting it to be similarly easy to pick up and play (which is literally pretty much all that was said), then this constant No Mercy referencing to it wouldn't exist.

It very clearly does look a lot like Here Comes The Pain and very clearly doesn't look anything like No Mercy.

[RobotMan #08]

Game is completely based on No Mercy, Wrestlemania 2000 and WCW vs. nWo - Revenge, from game play to character animations. The models would be considered HD models from that era of games, it really doesn't resemble much of any of the Smackdown games that'd I've seen it compared to so far, like HCTP or SYM.

Problem is that a lot of people say "They said it looks like No Mercy"....NO, they said they were going for a No Mercy style game play....NOT how the game visually looked. There's a big difference on how No Mercy & AEW look, but game play-wise, they're identical.

[[MDI]]

When I think of HCTP I imagine the characters flying around the ring and moving ultra fast. No Mercy and the N64 AKI games felt like they were much slower, but had more weight to the movements and attacks. Like each slam felt like it did damage. I love the Smackdown games but they always felt more floaty. In that aspect people are seeing the similarity to No Mercy, from what I can tell.

[LightyKD]

No, just NO. This game is Day of Reckoning 3!!!! :D

[NathW14]

Originally posted by RobotMan #08:

Game is completely based on No Mercy, Wrestlemania 2000 and WCW vs. nWo - Revenge, from game play to character animations. The models would be considered HD models from that era of games, it really doesn't resemble much of any of the Smackdown games that'd I've seen it compared to so far, like HCTP or SYM.

Problem is that a lot of people say "They said it looks like No Mercy"....NO, they said they were going for a No Mercy style game play....NOT how the game visually looked. There's a big difference on how No Mercy & AEW look, but game play-wise, they're identical.

When people say "looks", they clearly mean in terms of the visual appearance of how it looks like it plays/animates. No one is talking about the graphics/character models etc. I would have thought that was obvious.

It doesn't particularly "look" like No Mercy in terms of animation and how it looks like it plays, based on anything I've seen.

[Gog]

They basically recreate the formula that AKI designed for their 3D wrestling games. Which is a good thing. I can tell by looking the control layout and move list that it's identical.

The branching grappling system that they designed was the best. It was superior to even the Fire Pro series style, as the AKI style was very deep but also accessible.

The only thing I'd like to see them introduce is a 'Shoot fighting style' that was featured in Virtual Pro Wrestling 2. It's basically an "MMA" style mixed in that allows you to do combinations, it was a blast to use and made it feel fresh.

No Mercy was basically a forked version of Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 but it didn't feature the shoot fighting style.

Ultimately, I think this AEW game will be a great wrestling game first and foremost with an "AEW theme" on top of it.

[RobotMan #08]

Originally posted by NathW14:

Originally posted by RobotMan #08:

Game is completely based on No Mercy, Wrestlemania 2000 and WCW vs. nWo - Revenge, from game play to character animations. The models would be considered HD models from that era of games, it really doesn't resemble much of any of the Smackdown games that'd I've seen it compared to so far, like HCTP or SYM.

Problem is that a lot of people say "They said it looks like No Mercy"....NO, they said they were going for a No Mercy style game play....NOT how the game visually looked. There's a big difference on how No Mercy & AEW look, but game play-wise, they're identical.

When people say "looks", they clearly mean in terms of the visual appearance of how it looks like it plays/animates. No one is talking about the graphics/character models etc. I would have thought that was obvious.

It doesn't particularly "look" like No Mercy in terms of animation and how it looks like it plays, based on anything I've seen.

This should help you see some similarities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNMO5EbXm94

Both games use the exact same Momentum/Signature/Finisher setup. Have to build it up before you can perform those moves & they're still executed the exact same way that No Mercy was, by grappling & then flicking the stick. Cannot store any finishing moves either, just like in No Mercy...you could only store finishers in games like Smackdown and beyond.

In terms of animations, the newer games will look and animate way better, just like how the graphics have been improved since 2000 which is when No Mercy came out...23 years ago, i would have thought that was obvious as well.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1913210/discussions/0/3836549485406027501/

The animations from No Mercy were developed by Yukes, Yukes animations are still used in WWE games to this day (2023)....Yukes made AEW: FF and uses the same animations they've made which you can clearly see from the video comparison above.

This game is quite literally the modern day spiritual successor to No Mercy.

[KaosRebourne]

Originally posted by NathW14:

Originally posted by KaosRebourne:

It's crazy how people can see the same footage, and get something completely different from it...Because all I see, is No Mercy when I see this, just better looking. Either way, I'm gonna play the hell out of it.

It looks absolutely nothing like No Mercy, and if Kenny had never brought up early on about wanting it to be similarly easy to pick up and play (which is literally pretty much all that was said), then this constant No Mercy referencing to it wouldn't exist.

It very clearly does look a lot like Here Comes The Pain and very clearly doesn't look anything like No Mercy.

I honestly just think, you've never played the AKi games before.

[peep]

Yes it def gives me No Mercy + HCTP vibes. Literally my two favorite wrestling games combined.

It also gives me Def Jam Vendetta vibes too, which is great!