Denuvo DRM included...

[Kyrio]

I guess i have to buy on Switch then.

Switch ver regional price is more expensive than steam, but at least it doesn't have Denovo.

[Skysect]

Good luck with Denuvo. It hasn’t been removed even from 10-year-old games :)

[Village Idiot]

What performance issues? You can run this game on a toaster.

[Laughing kookaburra]

that explains where all the budget went into

[Lord_Lion_75]

Originally posted by Kyrio:

I guess i have to buy on Switch then.

Switch ver regional price is more expensive than steam, but at least it doesn't have Denovo.

it is the Denuvo Anti-cheat to prevent cheaters online wich is fine, not the terrible Denuvo Anti-Tamper DRM that people avoid and also Namco Bandai cause impact on ingame experience!

[lukaself]

Originally posted by Lord_Lion_75:

Originally posted by Kyrio:

I guess i have to buy on Switch then.

Switch ver regional price is more expensive than steam, but at least it doesn't have Denovo.

it is the Denuvo Anti-cheat to prevent cheaters online wich is fine, not the terrible Denuvo Anti-Tamper DRM that people avoid and also Namco Bandai cause impact on ingame experience!

It's a single player game, though. Someone was on drugs when they set the store page.

[min3r95]

I admit I'm not even interest in this game, but I do concern about them start using Denuvo again as there're quite a few games I'm planning to buy from them.

[Yuuyatails]

It is odd that Bandai Namco have listed it as having the Denuvo Anti-Cheat instead of Denuvo Anti-Tamper, as Super Robot Wars games are generally singleplayer-only.

Unless they listed it by mistake.

[Mentally Unstable]

Originally posted by Yuuyatails:

It is odd that Bandai Namco have listed it as having the Denuvo Anti-Cheat instead of Denuvo Anti-Tamper, as Super Robot Wars games are generally singleplayer-only.

Unless they listed it by mistake.

I think this is probably the first game on steam that lists denuvo as anti-cheat as well.

It is also worth nothing that is the first SRW game to have "in-app purchases"

My theory is that they implemented anti-cheat so as to "protect" the game's "in-app purchases" which I take it to be microtransactions for various things such as in-game currency and items (eg power parts). It is to frustrate those who mod/cheat so that they pony up for such microtransactions. Worst case, it could mean that the game is such a grind that there is a strong temptation to cheat or buy those microtransactions to speed it up.

Regardless of reason, there can be no justification for a game that is purely singleplayer only, let alone a kernel level type that is typically reserved for multiplayer only games such as league of legends and battle royales.

I especially dislike kernel level anti-cheats because it actively scans our computer for things that it considers as suspicious. Some are aggressive enough that even mouse software could be considered as a "cheat" and result in the game immediately exiting.

It could also affect those who use cheat tools but not necessarily for cheating. For example, it is common for players to use cheat engine to literally speed up gameplay animations and movement in such games because they find it too slow. Some use it to swap avatars of characters even.

[Lord_Lion_75]

Originally posted by lukaself:

Originally posted by Lord_Lion_75:

it is the Denuvo Anti-cheat to prevent cheaters online wich is fine, not the terrible Denuvo Anti-Tamper DRM that people avoid and also Namco Bandai cause impact on ingame experience!

It's a single player game, though. Someone was on drugs when they set the store page.

I'm agree!

[CheeseBoar]

Originally posted by Skysect:

Good luck with Denuvo. It hasn’t been removed even from 10-year-old games :)

That's because the licensing model was different back then; nowadays SEGA, Frontier, and Rebellion are the only companies that leave it in forever. This is a weird situation, though, because this is the anti-cheat, not the DRM, which is really bizarre for a single-player game.

[memphiskite]

Thanks for letting me know.
I can save $138 AUD on this then.

[きょすけ]

Just found out right now as well. I never trusted denuvo as an "anti-tamper solution", let alone as "anti-cheat" for a single player game.

I did pre-order srw30 ultimate edition, but I will not do so with Y, knowing they put this crap on.

What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[pkmis007]

For me Denuvo isn't problem. Copyright of all the sound in game is the problem. Can't youtube it at all = NO NO

[RiO]

Originally posted by Lord_Lion_75:

Originally posted by Kyrio:

I guess i have to buy on Switch then.

Switch ver regional price is more expensive than steam, but at least it doesn't have Denovo.

it is the Denuvo Anti-cheat to prevent cheaters online wich is fine, not the terrible Denuvo Anti-Tamper DRM that people avoid and also Namco Bandai cause impact on ingame experience!

It's not fine at all.
Denuvo DRM would actually be fine; given that that is just executing as a normal user-mode program. Denuvo Anti-cheat, however, is an actual kernel module. If that has an exploitable bug in it, it can lead to security vulnerabilities and exploits; or it can destabilize the system and lead to a BSoD.

You're essentially trusting Bandai Namco and Denuvo with the sanctity of your system.

Originally posted by Skysect:

Good luck with Denuvo. It hasn’t been removed even from 10-year-old games :)

It absolutely has been removed from many old games.

Originally posted by きょすけ:

Just found out right now as well. I never trusted denuvo as an "anti-tamper solution", let alone as "anti-cheat" for a single player game.

I did pre-order srw30 ultimate edition, but I will not do so with Y, knowing they put this crap on.

What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Same. As much as it pains me; this is a hard "no" for me as well.

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by RiO:

It's not fine at all.
Denuvo DRM would actually be fine; given that that is just executing as a normal user-mode program. Denuvo Anti-cheat, however, is an actual kernel module. If that has an exploitable bug in it, it can lead to security vulnerabilities and exploits; or it can destabilize the system and lead to a BSoD.

You're essentially trusting Bandai Namco and Denuvo with the sanctity of your system.

Originally posted by きょすけ:

Just found out right now as well. I never trusted denuvo as an "anti-tamper solution", let alone as "anti-cheat" for a single player game.

I did pre-order srw30 ultimate edition, but I will not do so with Y, knowing they put this crap on.

What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Same. As much as it pains me; this is a hard "no" for me as well.

Exactly, the sooner people realize the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ behind kernel level anti-cheat, the better.

And to add insult to the injury on a SP game, probably because bamco wants to taste the water with some MTX BS, as if tekken 8 wasn't enough already.

This may set a precedent yet again with bamco in introducing this garbage on other SP games if they start implementing MTX more aggressively.