Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

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[SPOILERS] True story ending?
If I understood correctly, the real ending is when we choose Maelle. Because if we choose Verso, then the story clearly cannot have a logical continuation or we won't even get DLC?. (well, maybe there's another canvas at the neighbor's, cousin's, great-grandmother's and grandfather's place bla bla bla. Or Clea had a boyfriend, but he left her for another or died in a car accident etc. All of this would be boring.) And how can you even explore the world after the credits when choosing Verso. lol.

Did the developers even say anything about this?

To be honest, I'm completely on Maelle's side, such a beautiful girl, and such a terrible thing happened. I don't see any problem, she can leave the canvas whenever she wants and come back? So why all this fuss, real life will definitely not be the same for her, and inside the canvas she can see her brother and friends, be beautiful and loved, it's essentially an ideal world without deaths of loved ones, etc.

I understand Renoir, considering that Alina is essentially obsessed with canvas, but let his daughter at least use it, if she weren’t afraid that he would erase it, then I think she would return to the real world from time to time to be with her parents. As for Clea, it seemed to me that she didn't care about her sister at all. But Verso's motivation is completely delusional, what's wrong with living inside a canvas, you're doing well, your sister is nearby, your best friends esquire and monoco too, Lune is free, start a relationship, dont be an idiot.

Guys I'm interested your opinion about this :steamthis:
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archmag May 7 @ 6:12am 
if she weren’t afraid that he would erase it, then I think she would return to the real world from time to time to be with her parents
That's the thing. She is afraid now. So she doesn't plan to leave this world fearing that as soon as she leaves it her papa destroys it. If he didn't betray her when they returned to Lumielle, things could have been different. I still remember her happy words "papa will do anything for me".

I also prefer Maelle's ending. But mostly because I played the whole game with a party of people who treat this canvas world as real world. So it doesn't matter for me that there is one level above it, it's still the main world for me and destroying it in Verso's ending is just an unforgivable crime. If the whole game I played as someone who was living in the outer world and then travelled inside the canvas and started living there my opinion may be different. But you play the game as 5 (6) people who live in this world. So it makes no sense to suddenly change perspective to the outside world.

Verso's ending just looks too weird. It's normal when you look at it from outside and it's by the book as a general case of saving a person from escapism, but it looks very different from another point of view. Imagine in real life there is a person who is tired of living in it. He is given a red button from a god who says he is tired of this world and he says "here is a button for you, press it and the whole world will be destroyed, you included". Will that person pressing a button be a good deed?
Am afraid you've missed some crucial character turmoil during the finale;

Maelle has no intention of ever leaving the Canvas, as she doesn't want to ever step back in her own reality because she only exists there as a ghost of her true self, a shadow.

So when she is talking to Papa about "leaving", she's actually lying to him. But Renoir knows she's lying to him yet ultimately understood this is what she truly wanted, so he let her live her life the way she wants to so she can be happy, which she does by living a long and happy lifetime within the Canvas as a Paintress that changes anything she doesn't like (like Verso unable to play due to having an inner conflict within himself)

Even if she left the Canvas she would be fatigued for a while before she could return, which means by the time she returns centuries could pass inside the Canvas and everyone she knows would no longer be there.


But other than that, if any DLCs were to be made it would most likely be in the middle of the story rather than the post-end. As even now ACT III side content is very disconnected from the main story, so there really is no real ending.

I assume the DLC will be the inaccessible canvases inside the Endless Tower, there's a grapple hook that leads nowhere, probably cut content.
Last edited by Crimsomrider; May 7 @ 6:18am
there is no true ending
Jee Em May 7 @ 6:33am 
I don't think the devs even intent on making a sequel to this game. They made a franchise, Claire Obscure, it's a universe in which they can tell whatever stories they like.

We have a Meta narrative about a conflict between the painters, those who created the world of Expedition 33; and writers who do something different (but similar?).

If anything they might as well go with the world of a Writer in their next project, or Musician or whatever they can come up with.

So whatever ending you choose, doesn't really matter for the grander story.
Last edited by Jee Em; May 7 @ 6:34am
Originally posted by Crimsomrider:
I assume the DLC will be the inaccessible canvases inside the Endless Tower, there's a grapple hook that leads nowhere, probably cut content.
I hope so, because I'm still have a questions about Simon, where did he get such abilities from, this guy is more dangerous than anyone. Maybe the DLC will give an answer to this question, because it is very strange.
There is no true ending. But Verso ending is obviously one that is intended. It's what Verso wanted and what Alicia and her family needed.
Last edited by goodbye_bonito; May 7 @ 6:36am
Originally posted by Gunslinger 🚬:
Originally posted by Crimsomrider:
I assume the DLC will be the inaccessible canvases inside the Endless Tower, there's a grapple hook that leads nowhere, probably cut content.
I hope so, because I'm still have a questions about Simon, where did he get such abilities from, this guy is more dangerous than anyone. Maybe the DLC will give an answer to this question, because it is very strange.

It's answered in game.. He was close with Canvas version of Clea, they loved each other. Real Clea painted over canvas Clea making her into that zombie from the Flying Mansion. Then she used Simon promising him that she will "fix" his Clea, and painted over him as well turning him in this monster form. Irony of this is that axon killed by Simon is Renoir's depiction of Clea. Dude couldn't have a break and was as confused as we were as players before knowing nature of this world and Painters
Last edited by goodbye_bonito; May 7 @ 6:45am
I was thnking the opposite, because, for me, the Verso ending means that Maelle/Alicia actually survives in the real world, instead of slowly disintegrating and eventually dying.

To me, the perfect sequel would start in the "Real World"' and delve deeper in the aftermath of Verso's canvas erasure and the Painters issue with the Writers...

Maybe Maelle finds a way to summon her friends from Verso's canvas into other worlds from the Painters and the Writers... and you feel her struggle, wondering if they are actually the same or simple copies, and if, as a "goddess", she truly is benevolent, or if she's simply using her creations as mere tools.
Last edited by Agahnim01; May 7 @ 6:39am
Originally posted by goodbye_bonito:
Originally posted by Gunslinger 🚬:
I hope so, because I'm still have a questions about Simon, where did he get such abilities from, this guy is more dangerous than anyone. Maybe the DLC will give an answer to this question, because it is very strange.

It's answered in game.. He was close with Conavas version of Clea, they loved each other. Real Clea used that and painted over him turning him in this monster form.
Indeed, after your answer I remembered how Maelle said about that Clea is so talented and only she can painted over.
Originally posted by Gunslinger 🚬:
Originally posted by goodbye_bonito:

It's answered in game.. He was close with Conavas version of Clea, they loved each other. Real Clea used that and painted over him turning him in this monster form.
Indeed, after your answer I remembered how Maelle said about that Clea is so talented and only she can painted over.

I kinda like her, she's like that your friend and siblings who is really busy with their carrier and stuff and when they see you playing games they like: "Again watching those cartoons, when will you grow up". She doesn't really care about these "cartoons" and trying to eject her family from this virtual reality in the most efficient way
Originally posted by Agahnim01:
I was thnking the opposite, because, for me, the Verso ending means that Maelle/Alicia actually survives in the real world, instead of slowly disintegrating and eventually dying.
Maybe, but is it good for Alicia/Maelle in the future ? When she entered the canvas, Alina having stronger chroma, made it so that Alicia was born into the family painted by Alina and start a new life here. The mother wanted a just better life for her daughter or wanted her to realize something...
It's an RPG.
True ending is that you AS ROLE PLAYER chose.
There is no need to "min-max" story.
Originally posted by goodbye_bonito:
Originally posted by Gunslinger 🚬:
Indeed, after your answer I remembered how Maelle said about that Clea is so talented and only she can painted over.

I kinda like her, she's like that your friend and siblings who is really busy with their carrier and stuff and when they see you playing games they like: "Again watching those cartoons, when will you grow up". She doesn't really care about these "cartoons" and trying to eject her family from this virtual reality in the most efficient way
Well, I can understand that she is trying to eject father out, but she is too cruel to her sister, probably because it was not her who was crippled by fire, then perhaps she would treat her a little better, she clearly having lacks a sense of empathy.
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