Verso is strongest - No contest

[Olskid]

My Verso literally clears all nevron packs solo and can almost kill a boss in a single turn

How does this man easily get to use 20+ ap in a single round with multiple nevrons and then also kill all of them without even using a single ability

All my other characters only exist to support this giga chad

EDIT:

I have now finished the game at close to lvl 70 and Verso still kept putting out better numbers even though I began investing every lumina and weapon upgrade on Maelle

[Olskid]

Postat inițial de Lambi:

Postat inițial de Olskid:

For most people Maelle will never be the strongest because most people don't read guides on how to break the game and do all the side content to get whatever weapon or pictos needed for Maelle to become stronger.

Especially not when you can finish the game easily without ever needing whatever broken build Maelle can get after the credits have rolled.

I never even read any guide or looked anything up online, and even I could instantly tell that Maelle was giga-broken in comparison to everyone else. It is pretty obvious. And it wasn't even like you needed super mega specific builds to get strong with her. Stendhal, which was one of the abilities nerfed this latest patch, was literally nerfed on Maelle BECAUSE it required basically zero setup and you still reached billions of damage. But even now post-nerf, you can still reach billions of damage on her.

I didn't get that :)

[Olskid]

Postat inițial de goodbye_bonito:

Postat inițial de Observer:

I ve just killed Simon at lvl 90 and did 30 mil dmg with verso with just 300 lumina within 2 turns. maelle with same lvl and lumina count 10 mil dmg. Maybe there is some combination, but man Verso did Simon dirty.

Maele will do more by the sheer fact that she has free 200% on top of everything, that others don't have access to. It's not even a competition, it's math.

Verso gets 200% in S rank too :)

[Observer]

Postat inițial de Olskid:

Postat inițial de goodbye_bonito:

Maele will do more by the sheer fact that she has free 200% on top of everything, that others don't have access to. It's not even a competition, it's math.

Verso gets 200% in S rank too :)

With simon's sword Verso can solo everyhting, since he cant die. I havent tried to go late builds, but just going some lazy build and Verso is alrdy 30 mil dmg, waht possiblities, what possibilities if we go late game. Somebody is not trying to build late Verso.

[Olskid]

Postat inițial de Observer:

Postat inițial de Olskid:

Verso gets 200% in S rank too :)

With simon's sword Verso can solo everyhting, since he cant die. I havent tried to go late builds, but just going some lazy build and Verso is alrdy 30 mil dmg, waht possiblities, what possibilities if we go late game. Somebody is not trying to build late Verso.

I stopped after Renoir, Dualiso was the best weapon I had found

[Widgit]

Every character has overpowered builds. Just say Verso is your favorite.

[goodbye_bonito]

Postat inițial de Olskid:

Postat inițial de goodbye_bonito:

Maele will do more by the sheer fact that she has free 200% on top of everything, that others don't have access to. It's not even a competition, it's math.

Verso gets 200% in S rank too :)

So then you probably can show me 2b damage you did with Verso? Because Mael can do it post nerf. 500m with Stendhal still if you buff her, 50m with zero preparation, just one button on turn 1.

[Olskid]

Postat inițial de goodbye_bonito:

Postat inițial de Olskid:

Verso gets 200% in S rank too :)

So then you probably can show me 2b damage you did with Verso? Because Mael can do it post nerf. 500m with Stendhal still if you buff her, 50m with zero preparation, just one button on turn 1.

No character can deal that damage by my level, buddy.

[Olskid]

Postat inițial de Widgit:

Every character has overpowered builds. Just say Verso is your favorite.

Verso isn't my favorite, any build or character who doesn't meet any resistance becomes boring after a while. I don't like having to use 20+ ap per turn because it takes longer than necessary.

Neither do I like having to use 1 extra turn on Maelle to get to her into the preferred stance, because combat is always over before she gets to use her stance.

I don't have whatever weapon puts her ub virtuous stance at the start of combat. I didn't find it during my playthrough. But I imagine I would find it boring fast too.

The game was the most fun in the first half where I always tried to change builds because I got a new cool picto or a new weapon and new mechanics were introduced.

I won't be going back to the game to finish end game content as it would sour my experience and I have finished all the most important story beats. Verso has been the strongest since he got Dualiso and no character no matter what have been able to get close to him in damage and utility. He deals tons of damage, he debuffs, he buffs, he stuns, he marks, he burns, he heals - He does it all.

[Doom Sayer]

Huh? He plays around worst of all of them.

[Trilkin]

Postat inițial de Olskid:

Postat inițial de Widgit:

Every character has overpowered builds. Just say Verso is your favorite.

Verso isn't my favorite, any build or character who doesn't meet any resistance becomes boring after a while. I don't like having to use 20+ ap per turn because it takes longer than necessary.

Neither do I like having to use 1 extra turn on Maelle to get to her into the preferred stance, because combat is always over before she gets to use her stance.

I don't have whatever weapon puts her ub virtuous stance at the start of combat. I didn't find it during my playthrough. But I imagine I would find it boring fast too.

The game was the most fun in the first half where I always tried to change builds because I got a new cool picto or a new weapon and new mechanics were introduced.

I won't be going back to the game to finish end game content as it would sour my experience and I have finished all the most important story beats. Verso has been the strongest since he got Dualiso and no character no matter what have been able to get close to him in damage and utility. He deals tons of damage, he debuffs, he buffs, he stuns, he marks, he burns, he heals - He does it all.

"I won't actually get to the point of the game where builds are relevant because it'd ruin my experience" is wild.

Pre Painted Power, every character can do what your Verso does. It's trivial to hit damage cap at mid game with everybody. No one is doing the damage Maelle does with Stendhal after you remove the cap, though. She is far and away the biggest single hitter in the game.

[Tr0w]

Nah, Maelle and Sciel are stronger they can eat a weak attack without losing damage, while if Verso gets hit by something that even just does chip damage to him or knocks a shield off his damage is immediately gimped to pathetic levels and he has to re-attain S rank before being useful.

[Olskid]

Postat inițial de Tr0w:

Nah, Maelle and Sciel are stronger they can eat a weak attack without losing damage, while if Verso gets hit by something that even just does chip damage to him or knocks a shield off his damage is immediately gimped to pathetic levels and he has to re-attain S rank before being useful.

You can get to S rank immediately and most fights you won't even get hit because either they die or they break

[Olskid]

Postat inițial de Trilkin:

Postat inițial de Olskid:

Verso isn't my favorite, any build or character who doesn't meet any resistance becomes boring after a while. I don't like having to use 20+ ap per turn because it takes longer than necessary.

Neither do I like having to use 1 extra turn on Maelle to get to her into the preferred stance, because combat is always over before she gets to use her stance.

I don't have whatever weapon puts her ub virtuous stance at the start of combat. I didn't find it during my playthrough. But I imagine I would find it boring fast too.

The game was the most fun in the first half where I always tried to change builds because I got a new cool picto or a new weapon and new mechanics were introduced.

I won't be going back to the game to finish end game content as it would sour my experience and I have finished all the most important story beats. Verso has been the strongest since he got Dualiso and no character no matter what have been able to get close to him in damage and utility. He deals tons of damage, he debuffs, he buffs, he stuns, he marks, he burns, he heals - He does it all.

"I won't actually get to the point of the game where builds are relevant because it'd ruin my experience" is wild.

Pre Painted Power, every character can do what your Verso does. It's trivial to hit damage cap at mid game with everybody. No one is doing the damage Maelle does with Stendhal after you remove the cap, though. She is far and away the biggest single hitter in the game.

So the game first begins after 45 hours? After you beat the story? Riiiiiiiight.

[Lambi]

Postat inițial de Olskid:

Postat inițial de Trilkin:

"I won't actually get to the point of the game where builds are relevant because it'd ruin my experience" is wild.

Pre Painted Power, every character can do what your Verso does. It's trivial to hit damage cap at mid game with everybody. No one is doing the damage Maelle does with Stendhal after you remove the cap, though. She is far and away the biggest single hitter in the game.

So the game first begins after 45 hours? After you beat the story? Riiiiiiiight.

Not even remotely what they said. You're being quite disingenuous. They said that the point of the game where builds are relevant, are towards the end-game. Pretty much Act 3 + post-game. The game is even designed around having a TON of content and lore in post/end-game stuff. You won't even get the full story unless you do these things.

Not really sure why it's so hard to just say that Verso was simply your most liked character, even though he's not really the strongest. Considering you were first talking pre-painted powers, which is very weird. Then you revealed how you just built incredibly weird as well in such a way you couldn't even get comparable output from other characters. It just sort of seems like you're trying too hard to make Verso out as the strongest against all facts. There's nothing wrong with just saying "He's my favorite" instead. Hell, he's my favorite as well. I literally invested most of my time and builds around him. Even though I knew Maelle was stronger.

[Olskid]

Postat inițial de Lambi:

Postat inițial de Olskid:

So the game first begins after 45 hours? After you beat the story? Riiiiiiiight.

Not even remotely what they said. You're being quite disingenuous. They said that the point of the game where builds are relevant, are towards the end-game. Pretty much Act 3 + post-game. The game is even designed around having a TON of content and lore in post/end-game stuff. You won't even get the full story unless you do these things.

Not really sure why it's so hard to just say that Verso was simply your most liked character, even though he's not really the strongest. Considering you were first talking pre-painted powers, which is very weird. Then you revealed how you just built incredibly weird as well in such a way you couldn't even get comparable output from other characters. It just sort of seems like you're trying too hard to make Verso out as the strongest against all facts. There's nothing wrong with just saying "He's my favorite" instead. Hell, he's my favorite as well. I literally invested most of my time and builds around him. Even though I knew Maelle was stronger.

Because all of you keep saying "Maelle is strongest, you just need this and this and this and beat the game and then she will be the best". So for pretty much the ENTIRE game Verso is the strongest and for most people that will be their experience.