This game is NOT a "JRPG"

[Tasty]

Wasn't this game developed in France? how can it be a Japanese RPG if it was made in Europe its nonsensical might as well call skyrim a jrpg too.
Thats not to say thats a positive or negative moniker theres absolutely awful jrpgs as well as amazing wrpgs but why call it something it isnt it makes no sense

[Tasty]

Originally posted by Shin:

Originally posted by Tasty:

elden ring is a jrpg, it doesnt follow any of your points as to what is a jrpg, nor does something like etrian oddissey or yakuza, those are still jrpgs despite their different genres, so no your definition is incorrect, just because clair obscur has many of the traditional jrpg tropes doesnt make it one

From my pov, Elden Ring is an Action game, with very bare bone rpg mechanics, just like all Souls games (doesn't mean they are bad, I've played all of them, great games).
Never felt like I was playing a jrpg, or a western rpg for that matter, just an action game with a very unforgiving combat system.

the japanese and fromsoft themselves call it an rpg and since its from japan it makes it a jrpg, action or not. i do agree its rpg mechanics are barebones its more about your own timing and proper input

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Tasty:

Wasn't this game developed in France? how can it be a Japanese RPG if it was made in Europe its nonsensical might as well call skyrim a jrpg too.
Thats not to say thats a positive or negative moniker theres absolutely awful jrpgs as well as amazing wrpgs but why call it something it isnt it makes no sense

You are among the extremely tiny minority of gamers that think JRPG means every single RPG made in Japan is a JRPG. Mean while nearly every other gamer sees JRPG as a subgenre of RPGs with very specific gameplay, character, storyline attributes.

You can have the opinion you have, but if someone says they want to play a JRPG and ask what are some good ones and you recommend Elden Ring 99% chance they'll tell you that isn't what they are looking for, but if someone said Expedition 33 then 99% chance the person will say that is what they are looking for.

[Veylox]

JRPG both means "japanese" and "turn-based", more often the latter. E33 is turn-based. So some people are gonna use "JRPG" for it. Can't happen with Skyrim, because its neither japanese nor turn-based. Skyrim is A-RPG, and so is Elden Ring. It's a massive stretch to call Eden Ring JRPG because it's simply not how that word is used.

French fries are called french fries regardless of where they're actually being made.

[Shin]

Btw guys, Skies of Arcadia, one of the greatest JRPG of all time.
I'm obviously not biased, no sir !
(for the love of god, just port it to Steam already ...)

[Zyrconia]

What a stupid take. You do not understand words and genres.

[Tasty]

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Originally posted by Tasty:

Wasn't this game developed in France? how can it be a Japanese RPG if it was made in Europe its nonsensical might as well call skyrim a jrpg too.
Thats not to say thats a positive or negative moniker theres absolutely awful jrpgs as well as amazing wrpgs but why call it something it isnt it makes no sense

You are among the extremely tiny minority of gamers that think JRPG means every single RPG made in Japan is a JRPG. Mean while nearly every other gamer sees JRPG as a subgenre of RPGs with very specific gameplay, character, storyline attributes.

You can have the opinion you have, but if someone says they want to play a JRPG and ask what are some good ones and you recommend Elden Ring 99% chance they'll tell you that isn't what they are looking for, but if someone said Expedition 33 then 99% chance the person will say that is what they are looking for.

just because most people are mistaken doesnt mean the word suddenly changes meanings

[The HR Department]

Exp33 reminds me of FF7, which is probably the only JRPG I've played, so in my head, it's clearly gotta be inspired by that game, true or not.

[Tasty]

Originally posted by Veylox:

JRPG both means "japanese" and "turn-based", more often the latter. E33 is turn-based. So some people are gonna use "JRPG" for it. Can't happen with Skyrim, because its neither japanese nor turn-based. Skyrim is A-RPG, and so is Elden Ring. It's a massive stretch to call Skyrim JRPG because it's simply not how that word is used.

French fries are called french fries regardless of where they're actually being made.

french fries and greek yogurt are specific products, jrpg is not a specific genre its an umbrella term

Originally posted by Zyrconia:

What a stupid take. You do not understand words and genres.

its ok that you dont know what the word means happy to help you

[Tasty]

Originally posted by The HR Department:

Exp33 reminds me of FF7, which is probably the only JRPG I've played, so in my head, it's clearly gotta be inspired by that game, true or not.

it is inspired by classic japanese rpgs yeah, doesnt really make it one however

[Viltae]

If the French had called it an 'F-RPG', you'd have been the first to protest, shouting 'What nerve! It's clearly a JRPG!
Internet outrage...

[D. Flame]

https://www.kjcesports.com/feature/what-are-jrpgs/

JRPGs are recognizable by their turn-based battle systems, anime-style visuals, and story and character development emphasis.

These games also often feature a party system, where the player controls a group of characters who work together to achieve their goals.

Another defining feature of JRPGs is random encounters, where enemies appear out of nowhere during exploration.

So no, this isn't a jRPG. It's an RPG, sure, but it lacks too much to be considered a jRPG.

Hell, there are sites out there claiming that Monster Hunter is a jRPG.

[Shin]

Originally posted by Viltae:

If the French had called it an 'F-RPG', you'd have been the first to protest, shouting 'What nerve! It's clearly a JRPG!
Internet outrage...

Naming a new genre with the F word, would be the Frenchiest thing !

[Tasty]

Originally posted by Viltae:

If the French had called it an 'F-RPG', you'd have been the first to protest, shouting 'What nerve! It's clearly a JRPG!
Internet outrage...

i wouldnt you are just coping

Originally posted by D. Flame:

https://www.kjcesports.com/feature/what-are-jrpgs/

JRPGs are recognizable by their turn-based battle systems, anime-style visuals, and story and character development emphasis.

These games also often feature a party system, where the player controls a group of characters who work together to achieve their goals.

Another defining feature of JRPGs is random encounters, where enemies appear out of nowhere during exploration.

So no, this isn't a jRPG. It's an RPG, sure, but it lacks too much to be considered a jRPG.

Hell, there are sites out there claiming that Monster Hunter is a jRPG.

you could call it so since it has a lot of rpg elements and its made in japan

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Tasty:

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

You are among the extremely tiny minority of gamers that think JRPG means every single RPG made in Japan is a JRPG. Mean while nearly every other gamer sees JRPG as a subgenre of RPGs with very specific gameplay, character, storyline attributes.

You can have the opinion you have, but if someone says they want to play a JRPG and ask what are some good ones and you recommend Elden Ring 99% chance they'll tell you that isn't what they are looking for, but if someone said Expedition 33 then 99% chance the person will say that is what they are looking for.

just because most people are mistaken doesnt mean the word suddenly changes meanings

Except people are not mistaken because meanings of terms change over time, in this case the gaming community at large have agreed that JRPG is a sub genre of RPGs that fit certain criteria regardless of where the game was made, and the gaming community decided this decades ago.

We no longer use the word "gay" to mean "happy", we basically stopped using that original meaning around the 1970s. It's no different with JRPGs, we quit using its original meaning decades ago and transformed the term to be a sub genre of certain criteria regardless of where the game was made.

[Kain]

It's inspired by and an "evolution" of the formula. But, yeah, mostly it plays like one.