This game is NOT a "JRPG"

[Tasty]

Wasn't this game developed in France? how can it be a Japanese RPG if it was made in Europe its nonsensical might as well call skyrim a jrpg too.
Thats not to say thats a positive or negative moniker theres absolutely awful jrpgs as well as amazing wrpgs but why call it something it isnt it makes no sense

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Tasty:

it isnt, jrpg is a generic monker thats why dungeon crawlers action rpgs even survival horror games can be jrpgs

Matter of opinion, I guess.

https://icicledisaster.com/jrpg-meaning/

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/JRPG


I’m on a side that JRPG is a sub-genre of RPGs with linear story, pre-defined characters, emphasis on a team and mostly turned based.

But if you disagree with the meaning, then I’m OK with calling it JRPG inspired game.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by Tasty:

Originally posted by Swote:

JRPG is a genre, not a classification. JRPGs aren't JRPGs simply because they are made in japan. Does every roleplaying game made in japan fall under JRPG? You might argue semantics, but there are mechanics attached to the genre.

that isnt true, etrian oddissey games are jrpgs so are from software titles, its a generic denomination for rpgs made in japan

Originally posted by Tr0w:

Western JRPGs have been a thing for decades, and the term hasn't always meant something that had to be made in Japan but also something made in the style of traditional Japanese RPGs. Hence Western JRPGs like Anachronox, Summoner, Shadow Madness, Chained Echoes, Sea of Stars, this, etc, etc.

yeah those are wrpgs calling them jrpgs would be wrong, again nothing to do with the quality of the games or the style since jrpgs vary greatly in that as well

No because they don't follow western RPG design philosophies for the most part and heavily follow traditional JRPGs. especially Shadow Madness, Chained Echoes, Sea of Stars, and COE 33. You have an overworld map you travel across where your characters are like action figures, you get a mode of transport for water and later flying. In combat the characters form lines opposite each other and take turns to carry out flashy attacks.

Western turnbased RPGs for example when it comes to combat tend to have an isometric battlefield where you can move character to the side or back of enemies for flanking or backstabbing damage bonuses, and have walls, buildings, etc that you move characters to for cover bonuses. And when it comes to narrative, quests, and sidequests they tend for focus on having multiple ways to complete objectives.

The games i listed do not play like your typical Western RPGs at all but very much play like JRPGs.

[Jamie Catto]

It's clearly a JRPG.

[enbium]

JRPG is NOT about where from game is, it's about a GENRE! Why people just can't f***ing google RPGs types

[Senki]

why would the place of development matter

we don't call borderlands an american shooter or baldurs gate an ERPG because it's from europe

Genres are meant to roughly say what the style of the game is. If a game is done in the style of JRPGs then it's still a JRPG even if it's not from Japan.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by Senki:

why would the place of development matter

we don't call borderlands an american shooter or baldurs gate an ERPG because it's from europe

Genres are meant to roughly say what the style of the game is. If a game is done in the style of JRPGs then it's still a JRPG even if it's not from Japan.

Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2 plus their expansions are Canadian, 3 is the only one made by an EU studio.

[♥Spinda♥]

The fact it says “evolution of jrpg” while not being one is ironic

[ZexxCrine]

If it looks like a duck
Quacks like a duck
Waddles like a duck
Hangs around with other ducks

It might just be a duck

[Tasty]

Originally posted by Foxx:

Why is it so hard to google?

"What is a JRPG? It stands for “Japanese Roleplaying Game,” and is essentially, an RPG designed and produced in Japan. But it can also mean an RPG (made anywhere) that is made in the style of a Japanese Roleplaying Game. The standard look and feel of a JRPG was set by Dragon Quest in 1986 and Final Fantasy in 1987.

Even games that aren't Japanese, such as Cosmic Star Heroine, are considered JRPGs because they're made to play like DQ, FF, Chrono Trigger, etc."

lmao trusting google for his definitions

Originally posted by Miro Fox:

Originally posted by Tasty:

the japanese dont use the same genre monikers as we do that means nothing, they dont call visual novels as such either they say adventure games, jrpg means nothing to the japanese market so discussing it in their terms makes no sense

so you are just going to ignore the fact you are illiterate ?

Oof.

//thread

User tags are user tags, by your logic most childrens games are psychological Horrors.

not great bait

Originally posted by Saph:

It's a Western RPG that's heavily inspired by numerous JRPGs like Fromsoft's games, the Mario & Luigi series/Paper Mario TTYD, Final Fantasy (notably IX for the way luminos work), Persona 5 (flashy fast gunplay animations that feed into the combat's dynamic) and a plethora of others.

It's very clever to not borrow too heavily from any one game in the genre, but to instead sprinkle aspects of numerous titles throughout the gameplay while providing an original and gripping narrative which is the hallmark of all the greats from the genre.

Instead of just ripping whatever's popular off and calling it a day the devs went the extra mile to not only wear their inspiration on their sleeve through the game design, but they also ensured it all fits together. That takes real passion for the medium, something all the modern-day AAA cashgrab slop could stand to learn from.

I particularly love the heavy lean into art as a motif for the world and creature designs, it couldn't possibly be a better fit for it being a French studio's passion project.

It's the same reason I ended up loving Black Myth Wukong last year in that both provide very satisfying gameplay while also exploring cultures that are sorely under-represented in gaming. Sakurai was right in his recent interview where he suggested that Japanese devs would benefit from less western pandering in their games.

It's also hilarious that we have Ubisoft to thank for it since a bunch of their former devs are in the credits. They're still one of the scummiest companies in the industry, but their constant failure led to this game's existence in a roundabout way and the success of the studio which will doubtless be propelled forward from the sales generated from word of mouth. It's all so palpably and delightfully ironic. :2016bee:

you are absolutely right and thats why its not a jrpg

[Tasty]

Originally posted by Tr0w:

Originally posted by Tasty:

that isnt true, etrian oddissey games are jrpgs so are from software titles, its a generic denomination for rpgs made in japan


yeah those are wrpgs calling them jrpgs would be wrong, again nothing to do with the quality of the games or the style since jrpgs vary greatly in that as well

No because they don't follow western RPG design philosophies for the most part and heavily follow traditional JRPGs. especially Shadow Madness, Chained Echoes, Sea of Stars, and COE 33. You have an overworld map you travel across where your characters are like action figures, you get a mode of transport for water and later flying. In combat the characters form lines opposite each other and take turns to carry out flashy attacks.

Western turnbased RPGs for example when it comes to combat tend to have an isometric battlefield where you can move character to the side or back of enemies for flanking or backstabbing damage bonuses, and have walls, buildings, etc that you move characters to for cover bonuses. And when it comes to narrative, quests, and sidequests they tend for focus on having multiple ways to complete objectives.

The games i listed do not play like your typical Western RPGs at all but very much play like JRPGs.

being like a jrpg doesnt make your western rpg suddenly japanese, i agree they follow japanese philosophies but that doesnt suddenly change their geographical location

[Tasty]

Originally posted by Senki:

why would the place of development matter

we don't call borderlands an american shooter or baldurs gate an ERPG because it's from europe

Genres are meant to roughly say what the style of the game is. If a game is done in the style of JRPGs then it's still a JRPG even if it's not from Japan.

jrpg means its made in japan. at least its traditional definition does, calling a western made game jrpg is just wrong

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

If it looks like a duck
Quacks like a duck
Waddles like a duck
Hangs around with other ducks

It might just be a duck

not even close to related

[DrewUniverse]

Pizza wasn't invented in the USA, yet every pizza made there is still called a pizza. *shrug*

[Guidsmaster]

do you think the greek yogurt you see at stores is made in Greece?

[Tasty]

Originally posted by Senki:

why would the place of development matter

we don't call borderlands an american shooter or baldurs gate an ERPG because it's from europe

Genres are meant to roughly say what the style of the game is. If a game is done in the style of JRPGs then it's still a JRPG even if it's not from Japan.

becaise JRPG means rpg made in japan as in japanese rpg, so the place does matter

[Tasty]

Originally posted by Guidsmaster:

do you think the greek yogurt you see at stores is made in Greece?

greek yogurt is a specific variety of yogurt, jrpg only denotates procedence its an umbrella term for dungeon crawlers action games etc not the same