Not bothering with Simon

[Time]

He's already broken and I don't use sciel or monoco nor do I like being forced. The fact that he erases your main party no matter what and youre forced to use the B team ruins the fight and spoils endgame for me.

[NijimaXL]

I only use 1 member on the main party on that fight.

[Amritadyne]

Why don't you just oneshot him?

[Time]

Originally posted by NijimaXL:

I only use 1 member on the main party on that fight.

That would mean perfect parrying that light speed bs with one person and more stress. I dont even want his sword It's the fact hes the last thing I have left before going after renoir, and gimmick fights annoy me

[MalseMakker]

Use Maelle with virtuoso stance, all damage pictos and equip her main pictos with speed and crit. If you use first turn picto on Sciel and apply the double damage buff to Maelle you can easily one shot him. Though she can do it in one turn herself. Just use the ability which gets you to 1 hp and refunds all ap and then use the Extreme Void Damage skill for 8 ap. Should kill, since the ability which refunds ap also gets you into virtuoso stance.

Tried doing it legit, but no way on higher difficulty. You need to one/two shot him. As long as he doesnt reach phase 3, you can keep repeating and he will die in 1 to 3 turns. Also recommend putting on the roulette-picto so you can get the 200% damage increase from that as well.

[GeminiEclipse]

Originally posted by Time:

Originally posted by NijimaXL:

I only use 1 member on the main party on that fight.

That would mean perfect parrying that light speed bs with one person and more stress. I dont even want his sword It's the fact hes the last thing I have left before going after renoir, and gimmick fights annoy me

They use one person so they can just one shot the boss before it does anything.

[Phishfood]

I don't know if this works because I managed to stun and kill him before he could remove my main party.

I started with the 2 party members I didn't use and just let them die. Then the game lets you switch to your remaining members, maybe he won't gommage them if they are the only ones remaining.

[Teagan]

Someone on Fextra put together an easy build to delete Simon. I used it and it worked great:

"Easy Maelle oneshot, even on expert. Needs 213 Lumina.

Weapon: Barrier Breaker due to highest AR
Pictos (Equiped): Doesn't matter. Substitute high Lumina cost pictos here if you're tired of the Colourfarm
Pictos (passive):
At Death's Door, Aug. First Strike, Auto Powerful, Burn Affinity, Cheater, Confident Fighter, Critical Moment, Exposing Break, First Offensive, First Strike, Glass Canon, Greater Defenceless, Greater Powerful, Immaculate, Inverted Affinity, Painted Power, Sniper, Stun Boost, Tainted, Teamwork, Warming Up

Next you need to bring Verso as well due to him being able to apply "Marked". Weapons and equipped Pictos are irrelevant.
Pictos (Passive):
Auto Death, Breaking Death, Burning Death, Double Mark, Revive Paradox, Second Chance

How to do it: Verso will die on fight start, apply burn and fill the break bar then revive and use "Marked Shot". His role ends here.
With Maelle you do one Free Aim Shot to break Simon, triggering various passives and then use Last Chance to go into Virtuos Stance, triggering the rest of your passives. Then simply use Stendhal and that's it."

https://expedition33.wiki.fextralife.com/Simon

[Amritadyne]

Originally posted by Teagan:

Someone on Fextra put together an easy build to delete Simon. I used it and it worked great:

"Easy Maelle oneshot, even on expert. Needs 213 Lumina.

Weapon: Barrier Breaker due to highest AR
Pictos (Equiped): Doesn't matter. Substitute high Lumina cost pictos here if you're tired of the Colourfarm
Pictos (passive):
At Death's Door, Aug. First Strike, Auto Powerful, Burn Affinity, Cheater, Confident Fighter, Critical Moment, Exposing Break, First Offensive, First Strike, Glass Canon, Greater Defenceless, Greater Powerful, Immaculate, Inverted Affinity, Painted Power, Sniper, Stun Boost, Tainted, Teamwork, Warming Up

Next you need to bring Verso as well due to him being able to apply "Marked". Weapons and equipped Pictos are irrelevant.
Pictos (Passive):
Auto Death, Breaking Death, Burning Death, Double Mark, Revive Paradox, Second Chance

How to do it: Verso will die on fight start, apply burn and fill the break bar then revive and use "Marked Shot". His role ends here.
With Maelle you do one Free Aim Shot to break Simon, triggering various passives and then use Last Chance to go into Virtuos Stance, triggering the rest of your passives. Then simply use Stendhal and that's it."

https://expedition33.wiki.fextralife.com/Simon

fyi barrier breaker despite having the higher AR is massively outclassed in damage by Medalum due to a bug that is 2.5x'ing its damage

also the strat can be refined:

get Breaking Mark for Verso and have him break so Maelle doesn't have to waste the AP or the first attack bonus on a shot. Then have a support Sciel double Maelle'sm damage and either buff or accelerate her (if Maelle went first, use Cheater for a powerful potion and then last stand)

[Teagan]

Originally posted by Amritadyne:

fyi barrier breaker despite having the higher AR is massively outclassed in damage by Medalum due to a bug that is 2.5x'ing its damage

Yeah I didn't bother with the weapon. Medalum did the trick perfectly fine.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Amritadyne:

Why don't you just oneshot him?

Doing the one shot build people discovered is not exactly a rewarding experience. Simon is a cool fight, but no shields, no HP, 14 hit combo strings are not fun for anyone. They are quite frustrating and a good portion of people who have beaten him, likely did so with a one shot mechanic by killing their teammates in the first place, hence the 2.3 billion damage maelle hits etc.

[Orzeker]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Amritadyne:

Why don't you just oneshot him?

Doing the one shot build people discovered is not exactly a rewarding experience. Simon is a cool fight, but no shields, no HP, 14 hit combo strings are not fun for anyone. They are quite frustrating and a good portion of people who have beaten him, likely did so with a one shot mechanic by killing their teammates in the first place, hence the 2.3 billion damage maelle hits etc.

Yeah I can't be bothered with him, insane combo strings and pretty much any hit is a one shot, looks cool and all on paper but it's not fun to parry or dodge 30+ times and be done because you miss timed once or twice.
He's got an insane amount of health too if you try to do him the "traditional" way.

P1 is fine, P2 is way too much.

Didn't enjoy it trying to beat him the legit way, there's nothing legit about his fight.

[Kamiyo]

I did him with really high speed party, so I had the time to revive before he erase your team members, but ye Simon P2 fight is really hard

[Time]

I cheated and beat him easy with maelle and it feels hollow, but at least I trolled him for trollin me :)

[Time]

glacium maelle 56 million

[Tsi Aileron]

It's definitely possible to beat him without losing a party member and without cheesing in one shot. Just play around with your builds. The game gives you everything you need.