Can you ever switch characters?

[Necrolite]

During combat? seems like should at some point when the rest are on reserves.

[Shin Happens]

During combat? No. The game determines the order in which your characters play. The "speed" attribute does impact how often you play and if your team or the enemy goes first, but one of your characters with a lower speed attribute can, at times, still go first, i.e. several times I have it that a character with a lower speed stat gets the first attack even if another character has a higher speed stat. So I am not entirely sure how the game decides which of your characters gets the first attack. In my game Lune has the highest speed stat, but she'll still only be #2 at times.

The reserve team is only called in if your original team dies, then the game asks you if you want to send in the reserve and continue.

[Necrolite]

Originally posted by Shin Happens:

During combat? No. The game determines the order in which your characters play. The "speed" attribute does impact how often you play and if your team or the enemy goes first, but one of your characters with a lower speed attribute can, at times, still go first, i.e. several times I have it that a character with a lower speed stat gets the first attack even if another character has a higher speed stat. So I am not entirely sure how the game decides which of your characters gets the first attack. In my game Lune has the highest speed stat, but she'll still only be #2 at times.

The reserve team is only called in if your original team dies, then the game asks you if you want to send in the reserve and continue.

That sucks, barely use Maelle but would be helpful if were able to switch to her. When need to break alot shields.

[Bran]

I have main team and i dont wanna change pictos on them soo one man army carry two mules for pictos 4wins and monoco for collect skills for him

[Shin Happens]

Originally posted by Necrolite:

That sucks, barely use Maelle but would be helpful if were able to switch to her. When need to break alot shields.

Do I understand you correctly?... so you do not REALLY want to use Maelle unless in those cases some enemy has shields and then you want to user her shield breaker ability?

Well, you can't ever pick and choose a character. BUT there are several ways you can try to work around the fixed character order.

a) you can always skip a turn and switch to the next character in line, you can do this until Maelle is the one to attack, of course Maelle needs to be on the team and must not be the reserve

b) later on there are pictos that let you play more than once per turn, Maelle is also super, super, super powerful and even if you may not like her for whatever reason in those instances where an enemy has 5 or 6 shields etc you could skip turns with the other characters, then let Maelle play and with the picto that lets you play twice in a row (plus pictos that give you lots of AP) Maelle can get rid of the shields first and then finish the enemies with her second attack, this is of course only viable much later in the game - or you use the other characters to break the shields with free aim (later on you get AP very easily to do this) and then Maelle finishes them, again, she is SUPER powerful with the right build and weapon, I would not ignore her

c) there are also pictos that make destroying shields easier with free aim (take down two shields per shot etc), you do not necessarily need Maelle's skill to remove shields if you really do not want to use her, some skills also give you 4-8 hits and each hit removes a shield. Again, this is of course only possible a bit later in the game when you have unlocked those skills

[Necrolite]

Originally posted by Bran:

I have main team and i dont wanna change pictos on them soo one man army carry two mules for pictos 4wins and monoco for collect skills for him

Yeah I should do the same with the Pictos

[Necrolite]

Originally posted by Shin Happens:

Originally posted by Necrolite:

That sucks, barely use Maelle but would be helpful if were able to switch to her. When need to break alot shields.

Do I understand you correctly?... so you do not REALLY want to use Maelle unless in those cases some enemy has shields and then you want to user her shield breaker ability?

Well, you can't ever pick and choose a character. BUT there are several ways you can try to work around the fixed character order.

a) you can always skip a turn and switch to the next character in line, you can do this until Maelle is the one to attack, of course Maelle needs to be on the team and must not be the reserve

b) later on there are pictos that let you play more than once per turn, Maelle is also super, super, super powerful and even if you may not like her for whatever reason in those instances where an enemy has 5 or 6 shields etc you could skip turns with the other characters, then let Maelle play and with the picto that lets you play twice in a row (plus pictos that give you lots of AP) Maelle can get rid of the shields first and then finish the enemies with her second attack, this is of course only viable much later in the game - or you use the other characters to break the shields with free aim (later on you get AP very easily to do this) and then Maelle finishes them, again, she is SUPER powerful with the right build and weapon, I would not ignore her

c) there are also pictos that make destroying shields easier with free aim (take down two shields per shot etc), you do not necessarily need Maelle's skill to remove shields if you really do not want to use her, some skills also give you 4-8 hits and each hit removes a shield. Again, this is of course only possible a bit later in the game when you have unlocked those skills

Yeah I know ways to work around it just be more convenient if could switch them out.
Maelle isn't bad just not as good as my other characters are at the moment.
Currently in Act 2. I'm thinking perhaps later she may be alot better.

[Shin Happens]

Originally posted by Necrolite:

Yeah I know ways to work around it just be more convenient if could switch them out.
Maelle isn't bad just not as good as my other characters are at the moment.
Currently in Act 2. I'm thinking perhaps later she may be alot better.

Maelle can easily be the biggest DPS machine in the game. Does she have the weapon that lets her start in Virtuose stance? You get it in the Gestral arena if you picked Maelle for the fight and if you picked someone else to fight in the arena the other characters can get their unique weapon from beating the village chief (NOT an easy fight and only for high level characters, not before Act III I would say).

I have not minmaxed anything really and haven't even looked up any specific builds but in my game Maelle eventually is able to deal 8 million damage (damage cap is only lifted after Act II, before that you are stuck with 9,999). She can obliterate everything. Of course eventually any character you have can obliterate everything. But Maelle can do crazy damage.

[Necrolite]

Originally posted by Shin Happens:

Originally posted by Necrolite:

Yeah I know ways to work around it just be more convenient if could switch them out.
Maelle isn't bad just not as good as my other characters are at the moment.
Currently in Act 2. I'm thinking perhaps later she may be alot better.

Maelle can easily be the biggest DPS machine in the game. Does she have the weapon that lets her start in Virtuoso stance? You get it in the Gestral arena if you picked Maelle for the fight and if you picked someone else to fight in the arena the other characters can get their unique weapon from beating the village chief (NOT an easy fight and only for high level characters, not before Act III I would say).

I have not minmaxed anything really and haven't even looked up any specific builds but in my game Maelle eventually is able to deal 8 million damage (damage cap is only lifted after Act II, before that you are stuck with 9,999). She can obliterate everything. Of course eventually any character you have can obliterate everything. But Maelle can do crazy damage.

Yeah would assume she could be a power house, just don't think have her built good enough yet. Haven't fought the Chief yet, wasn't sure if that would make her my enemy.

[Mr. Lion]

Originally posted by Necrolite:

Originally posted by Shin Happens:

During combat? No. The game determines the order in which your characters play. The "speed" attribute does impact how often you play and if your team or the enemy goes first, but one of your characters with a lower speed attribute can, at times, still go first, i.e. several times I have it that a character with a lower speed stat gets the first attack even if another character has a higher speed stat. So I am not entirely sure how the game decides which of your characters gets the first attack. In my game Lune has the highest speed stat, but she'll still only be #2 at times.

The reserve team is only called in if your original team dies, then the game asks you if you want to send in the reserve and continue.

That sucks, barely use Maelle but would be helpful if were able to switch to her. When need to break alot shields.

lol what??? Maelle is literally the most OP of the expedition plus shield breaker. She quite literally can solo any fight if you build her right.

[Necrolite]

Originally posted by Mr. Lion:

Originally posted by Necrolite:

That sucks, barely use Maelle but would be helpful if were able to switch to her. When need to break alot shields.

lol what??? Maelle is literally the most OP of the expedition plus shield breaker. She quite literally can solo any fight if you build her right.

How far are you in the game? cuz i'm in the middle of Act 2. Doing the mission right now going to both islands to collect an items. To build a weapon to break a shield barrier. Just started on the first island. Also lvl 35 so not sure why everyone keeps tweaking over me not playing her. Unless i'm missing something since she isn't much better then the other members atm.

[Luminous Centipede]

Originally posted by Necrolite:

Originally posted by Mr. Lion:

lol what??? Maelle is literally the most OP of the expedition plus shield breaker. She quite literally can solo any fight if you build her right.

How far are you in the game? cuz i'm in the middle of Act 2. Doing the mission right now going to both islands to collect an items. To build a weapon to break a shield barrier. Just started on the first island. Also lvl 35 so not sure why everyone keeps tweaking over me not playing her. Unless i'm missing something since she isn't much better then the other members atm.

Maelle has been on my team since I got her and she is absolutely the strongest of them, I'm in act III now, and while Monoco and Verso can do pretty well, Maelle has some crazy DPS potential with some awesome builds. An easy one is Brulerum with most fire related things, allows her to stack burn to deal 9999 each enemy turn, paired with ap gen using energising attack, burn shots, and eventually double burn, she can deal close to 20k on her turn then follow up with an additional nearly 10k on the enemies turn.

Edit: The burn build can also avoid stance dancing, if your so inclined due to Brulerum 100% crit while stanceless

TBF, I think every character can be stupid strong, when built right, Maelle is just far easier to break that point.

[Necrolite]

Originally posted by Luminous Centipede:

Originally posted by Necrolite:

How far are you in the game? cuz i'm in the middle of Act 2. Doing the mission right now going to both islands to collect an items. To build a weapon to break a shield barrier. Just started on the first island. Also lvl 35 so not sure why everyone keeps tweaking over me not playing her. Unless i'm missing something since she isn't much better then the other members atm.

Maelle has been on my team since I got her and she is absolutely the strongest of them, I'm in act III now, and while Monoco and Verso can do pretty well, Maelle has some crazy DPS potential with some awesome builds. An easy one is Brulerum with most fire related things, allows her to stack burn to deal 9999 each enemy turn, paired with ap gen using energising attack, burn shots, and eventually double burn, she can deal close to 20k on her turn then follow up with an additional nearly 10k on the enemies turn.

Edit: The burn build can also avoid stance dancing, if your so inclined due to Brulerum 100% crit while stanceless

TBF, I think every character can be stupid strong, when built right, Maelle is just far easier to break that point.

Tbh just not a fan of her stances get how they work just don't care for the system. Mainly I like playing Sciel, Verso and Lune. I like using Wildfire on all enemies. Following up with an Aoe attack from Sciel that compliments and damages all the enemy's inflamed. Then versa is great at breaking same for Sciel. They can all break but atm got them set up good. Also really like Sciel healing skills and got Lunes system down pretty good.
Making her a heaving hitter. I also like how Verso can use skill to give AP to ally's. I'm sure Malle can be OP, but I like my team right now. I actually did play Maelle for a while just didn't care for her. Damage was fine just overall didn't care for her compared to the others. Although perhaps I will change my mind later during Act 3. Not against ever playing her just don't care to right now.

[Shin Happens]

Originally posted by Necrolite:

Tbh just not a fan of her stances get how they work just don't care for the system. Mainly I like playing Sciel, Verso and Lune. I like using Wildfire on all enemies. Following up with an Aoe attack from Sciel that compliments and damages all the enemy's inflamed. Then versa is great at breaking same for Sciel. They can all break but atm got them set up good. Also really like Sciel healing skills and got Lunes system down pretty good.
Making her a heaving hitter. I also like how Verso can use skill to give AP to ally's. I'm sure Malle can be OP, but I like my team right now. I actually did play Maelle for a while just didn't care for her. Damage was fine just overall didn't care for her compared to the others. Although perhaps I will change my mind later during Act 3. Not against ever playing her just don't care to right now.

I don't think you should ever need to justify yourself! :-) This is your game, play it any way you like with the characters you enjoy the most!

I never cared for Monoco, so I never used him. It's ok. I originally sidelined Sciel because of Verso's and Maelle's importance to the story until I tired of Verso and switched him out for Sciel whom I enjoy more really, so now it's Maelle, Lune and Sciel in my game.

About Maelle, she can be lots of fun, she can also synergise beautifully with Lune (both can add to the burn counter dramatically and Maelle can switch to the Virtuose stance as soon as an enemy is burning via skill and eventually Maelle can do crazy damage with Virtuose stance and various pictos), also I felt having Maelle on the team makes sense given her importance to the overall story (eventually), it would have been odd to never have her on the team but in almost all of the cutscenes (eventually).

This game is about her really, is what I am saying. Give the poor girl a chance again maybe... but if she doesn't work for you... that's ok. Play the game any way you like.

[Necrolite]

Originally posted by Shin Happens:

Originally posted by Necrolite:

Tbh just not a fan of her stances get how they work just don't care for the system. Mainly I like playing Sciel, Verso and Lune. I like using Wildfire on all enemies. Following up with an Aoe attack from Sciel that compliments and damages all the enemy's inflamed. Then versa is great at breaking same for Sciel. They can all break but atm got them set up good. Also really like Sciel healing skills and got Lunes system down pretty good.
Making her a heaving hitter. I also like how Verso can use skill to give AP to ally's. I'm sure Malle can be OP, but I like my team right now. I actually did play Maelle for a while just didn't care for her. Damage was fine just overall didn't care for her compared to the others. Although perhaps I will change my mind later during Act 3. Not against ever playing her just don't care to right now.

I don't think you should ever need to justify yourself! :-) This is your game, play it any way you like with the characters you enjoy the most!

I never cared for Monoco, so I never used him. It's ok. I originally sidelined Sciel because of Verso's and Maelle's importance to the story until I tired of Verso and switched him out for Sciel whom I enjoy more really, so now it's Maelle, Lune and Sciel in my game.

About Maelle, she can be lots of fun, she can also synergise beautifully with Lune (both can add to the burn counter dramatically and Maelle can switch to the Virtuose stance as soon as an enemy is burning via skill and eventually Maelle can do crazy damage with Virtuose stance and various pictos), also I felt having Maelle on the team makes sense given her importance to the overall story (eventually), it would have been odd to never have her on the team but in almost all of the cutscenes (eventually).

This game is about her really, is what I am saying. Give the poor girl a chance again maybe... but if she doesn't work for you... that's ok. Play the game any way you like.

Been trying to circiulate them atm I do have Monoco and Maelle in the team. So they don't fall behind to far in term lvl. Not to crazy on Monoco either but he can do some nasty damage. Imo verso seems like the one should be in the party at all times. So far atleast even if story is based around Maelle she is side lined alot. Can't even control her in camp, being able to talk to characters. Building relationships which is what usually the main protagonist does. if still can't during Act 3. Wouldn't seem off to me if she was not in the party. Seeing she is just treated like a regular teammate. Ironically very similar to Shadowheart in BG3. Since she was the one who had the Artifact. Which was the most important item in the entire game. Without that they would have just turned into tadpoles and never have been able to stop the absolute.
Although maybe it will push Maelle more into the lead role later. Then might end up feeling the same way as you do.

[Luminous Centipede]

Originally posted by Necrolite:

Originally posted by Luminous Centipede:

Maelle has been on my team since I got her and she is absolutely the strongest of them, I'm in act III now, and while Monoco and Verso can do pretty well, Maelle has some crazy DPS potential with some awesome builds. An easy one is Brulerum with most fire related things, allows her to stack burn to deal 9999 each enemy turn, paired with ap gen using energising attack, burn shots, and eventually double burn, she can deal close to 20k on her turn then follow up with an additional nearly 10k on the enemies turn.

Edit: The burn build can also avoid stance dancing, if your so inclined due to Brulerum 100% crit while stanceless

TBF, I think every character can be stupid strong, when built right, Maelle is just far easier to break that point.

Tbh just not a fan of her stances get how they work just don't care for the system. Mainly I like playing Sciel, Verso and Lune. I like using Wildfire on all enemies. Following up with an Aoe attack from Sciel that compliments and damages all the enemy's inflamed. Then versa is great at breaking same for Sciel. They can all break but atm got them set up good. Also really like Sciel healing skills and got Lunes system down pretty good.
Making her a heaving hitter. I also like how Verso can use skill to give AP to ally's. I'm sure Malle can be OP, but I like my team right now. I actually did play Maelle for a while just didn't care for her. Damage was fine just overall didn't care for her compared to the others. Although perhaps I will change my mind later during Act 3. Not against ever playing her just don't care to right now.

Absolutely fair, I get that... It took me a while to swap sciel to monoco, and theres plenty of JRPGs I've played that I rarely swapped in party members I knew could be good just cause I didn't like em.

Sorry if it came across as criticizing you for not using her, I was more so hoping to give a different perspective and showcase a particular build I like for her.