Doesn't deserve to be seen as GOTY

[Magnum]

After watching vids on Expedition 33, I can confidently say the praise it's receiving, even being called Game of the Year, highlights how low the bar is. Comparing Expedition 33 to true classics like Final Fantasy VIII or persona 3,4, and 5 reveal how it falls short.

1. Expedition 33 vs Code Vein: A Low Bar Comparison

First, I’ll admit Expedition 33 looks polished compared to Code Vein, a game that was little more than anime fluff, endless fan service, repetitive corridors, and hollow Souls-like mechanics. That said, Expedition 33 is a hype feeding game. Female-led cast, a euro-frenchy pretty boy protagonist, more "Game of Thrones" writing.

2. Final Fantasy VIII: Humanity, Music, and Atmosphere

FF8’s characters felt real. Squall wasn’t just “emo”, he was an awkward, emotionally scarred orphan, and that was explained naturally through the story. Seifer was a true rival with realistic development, not a generic forced trope. Laguna, Ward, and Kiros weren’t token characters, they felt like real friends dealing with war, dreams, and regret. I’ll even go as far as saying Laguna and his crew are peak Square Enix character writing and proof that Square wasn’t always just Nazi-pandering blonde-blue fantasies. Nothing beats the three grunts of different backgrounds living comically but with real brotherly love even failing at cheap acting jobs and at getting the girl in the upper class. That was peak writing and relatability.

FF8’s story had genuine emotional pain. The themes of abandonment, lost time, and forced maturity hit hard. The sorceress Edea wasn’t just some exaggerated villain, she was tied to personal memory and betrayal, making her far more powerful emotionally than most modern villains.

FF8’s music set the emotional tone perfectly. The intro sequence, the clash between Squall and Seifer under “Liberi Fatali”, remains one of the most iconic openings in gaming history. Tracks like “Fisherman’s Horizon,” “The Oath,” and “Eyes on Me” weren’t just background music. They carried deep, human melancholy. The game’s art direction was raw, not market-tested. FF8 took risks with realistic visual styles, moody atmospheres, and adult emotional tone. None of that exists in Expedition 33. Its flower obsession feels like a bad ripoff of FF8’s opening, but without the soul.

3. Persona Series: Where Style and Substance Coexist

Even the Persona franchise makes Expedition 33 look out of place. Persona 3 had real emo darkness with the gun-to-the-head Evokers. It earned its tone through a haunting story about mortality and fate more complex than it appears. It was intimate and a reflection of depression as a psychological illness especially in Japan's culture.

Persona 4 countered with a sunnier surface that hid brutal truths. It showed actual thematic complexity. It was loud and upbeat but explored the reality that good times take effort. Chie’s whole “I need you to feel useful” was a very real note on how charismatic extroverts often manage stress and awkwardness.

Persona 5 was the peak of style meeting anger. It had jazz energy, political resentment, and stylish rebellion without losing its humanity. The Kamoshida arc was a game in itself, peak storytelling. Japan isn't peaches and cream, its darker societal underbelly is scarier than what than what the West allows in it's own reflection. Bullying, crime, underworld realities, Persona 5 captured that from the first scene and boss unlike the poor witcher imitation in expedition 33 (Aimless banter with a female in a pretty view and classical theme except we don't know or care about these chars yet..

All these games had:
Memorable, musically powerful intros (“Burn My Dread,” “Pursuing My True Self,” “Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There”) Characters who felt young, flawed, and real, despite anime exaggeration Meanwhile, Expedition 33 opens with bland overused, lifeless self unaware music ripped straight out of a Nightmare Before Christmas knockoff. Sad orchestral sounds with no real sorrow behind them from an unpolished intro.

4. No Human Pulse: The Core Failure of Expedition 33

The characters in 33 feel designed by marketing teams, not born from human experience or heartache. The world feels like a dress-up dollhouse: lots of pretty backdrops but no grime, no depth. The tone is manufactured sadness, ai describing fake hardship wrapped in flowers and whimsical art design, hoping you won’t notice it’s emotionally hollow.

It doesn’t feel lived in like FF8’s Garden/x mansion or Persona’s urban world/Gotham where every character has complex purpose. Even Skyrim, has heaps more in life. Feels more like Ubisoft titles where it looks pretty but realistically is empty. Expedition 33 doesn’t measure up.

5. Why the GOTY Hype Feels Hollow

If Expedition 33 wins GOTY, it won’t be because it’s a masterpiece, it’ll be because modern competition is weak. Today’s gaming culture mistakes "feels" marketing and visual polish for genuine depth. Players have been conditioned to accept Instagram-tier aesthetics over meaningful storytelling. It’s like comparing the original Matrix to its most sanitized conclusion.

In a healthier gaming era, Expedition 33 would be seen as a mid-tier game not in the same league as actual narrative titans. Even Wrath of the Righteous is a better story focused game with none of the trope fluff. This isn’t Fallout: New Vegas, either. And let’s be honest, if Oblivion Remastered had modern polish and performance, it would’ve swept GOTY.

Conclusion: Expedition 33 Is an Empty Trophy

Expedition 33 isn’t a bad game compared to low-tier releases like Code Vein. It looks great, but the visuals feel like a cheat—like steroid-enhanced aesthetics forcibly made pretty. This isn’t Paper Mario. It isn’t Nioh. It’s not even Okami. It’s I look pretty because I used what was pretty.

Contrast that with something like Oblivion Remastered. Its shadowing and lighting bring back that Ocarina-of-Time-style appeal, "get lost in the woods" atmosphere that once made Skyrim great. Expedition 33, on the other hand, reminds me of Dragon Age: Veilguard, a literal veil over its lifelessness.

I’m confident it’ll win GOTY anyway. Modern gaming is full of modern kids with modern minds. Gross and subpar to me, but I’m not here to debate its success. I know it’ll win, just like Balder's Gate 3 did despite being unfinished on release. That game had broken bosses, sloppy mechanics, and still got hailed as “godly.” Same audience, same result.

It’s no wonder these same modern consumers caused Bethesda to gut gender specificity in Oblivion, a game that used to joke openly about gender. Meanwhile, Nexus bans gender affirming mods while drowning in sex mods. That contradiction alone tells me all I need to know. So meh. Expedition 33 isn’t terrible, but it’s hardly above average.

Quick Comparisons:

Expedition 33 – 6/10: Pretty but not meaty. I haven’t finished it, but I can smell when a game relies on abstract “deep” instead of real, grounded writing. Squall vs. Seifer is real.
Persona 3: Wanting to off yourself is real.
Persona 5: Being punished for trying to stop wrongdoing is real.
Grieving in 33 feels like a fantasy melodrama full of characters I don't care about.

Final Fantasy VIII – 8/10: Flawed, with a weird Disc 4 shift and exploitable mechanics, but deeply human, emotional, and immersive. The world feels more real than most games today.

Persona 5 – 8.5/10: Style and execution are peak. Loses steam after the first boss but maintains a strong identity. Audience is niche, but it’s among the best in its lane.

Persona 4 – 8/10: Optimism layered over grim truth. Balanced duality makes it strong.

Persona 3 – 7/10: Very niche, but meaningful. The emo tone is earned.

Wrath of the Righteous – 9/10: Peak CRPG. Wears down your hype but sets a foundation for future RPGs. 3D polish would make it GOAT.

Baldur’s Gate 3 – 7/10: Held back by political fluff and shallow trauma writing. Characters feel weak. Larian sanitized what should’ve been dark and adult.

Dragon Age: Inquisition – 7.5/10: Rich and complex despite flaws. Cassandra alone carries more realism than most characters today.

Dragon Age: Veilguard – 4.5/10: Feels like a PS1 hack-and-slash with reused story ideas. Cheap, disappointing, and forgettable.

Only thing I'd say is I haven't fully played the game. Though I keep seeing these excitable zone in's from a weak hour play through that I simply disagree with.

[Zprov]

Originally posted by HeideKnight:

. I come to this conclusion by not having played the game myself

Opinion discarded

[Magnum]

Originally posted by SgtDragoon:

Originally posted by Magnum:

After watching vids on Expedition 33, I can confidently say the praise it's receiving, even being called Game of the Year, highlights how low the bar is. Comparing Expedition 33 to true classics like Final Fantasy VIII or persona 3,4, and 5 reveal how it falls short.

Watching vids... Lord... While yes vids help determine if a game is worth playing your whole premise and criticism is based on vids... Maybe the game wont be GoTY but it worth being a contender thats for damn sure. can't speak for everyone but this game is on my favorite watch list for future installments...
Is it perfect? No.

But it takes turn base into a active stance that pretty fun if you actually engage with it.
Narratively Act 1&2 are is a bit lacking (mostly the journals despite the great voice overs) but it picks itself up with a huge finisher that not disappointing in the slightest.
It world building in quite interesting.

My take, if you can't find enjoyment in a game from advertising let alone an rpg play through than why buy it? That repeated excuse just exposes how slow people are not even calling you out....yet. Just the pretense you are not the only saying it. Which I laugh at because I just report. Why comment if you cant read? Free report? Weird type of special these days.

On topic, rpg play doesn't have a lot of variance. It's like watching ff7 remake and expecting different. A very simple real time with a very repetitive game play loop. Even re4 remake which i deem peak wasn't worth buying because of how many times I watched it. It's more a one time thing then just getting the best after. I like full on replay ability and customization. Make my own char a dif way each time. This is where souls tops or pathfinder and crpgs take the cake. Even war and strat games which present randomness take the cake. This is why I watch videos. That rebuttal..is very idiotic in my opinion but i'll humor you. Again, why fund what you disagree with? I don't want more eurocentric games out the game nor a repeat of larian so why just dump prematurely? Big thoughts that go beyond you surely so lets leave that. Europe has a very infant like view of concepts and real world engagements in my opinion. American standard even less than that. If I want deep philosophy in game, I don't want greco pandering.

Now we have a crossover in view. Over hyped but likely the best in awhile. Is something new because lacking though in my opinion only new to those who haven't seen similar which I have. The only thing I'll add is that the end game loop is what I haven't been able to touch. That is actually neat for a game to finally make it's end game better than it's beginning as a lot have had weak endings lately.

I may have under thought it's value. There is more depth than it came off but it is still middle ground and trickles above avg in my book. At best a 6.5 but certainly not the 7 that BG3 broken state and broken act 3 presented. I despise teh story and world of bg3 for being boggled down with personal inputs over lore realism. Even past being corrected after release, the game in it's enjoyable parts is now too unbearable to want to replay taxed with the chore of loot to want to hard mode.

Those are my opinions and taste.

[iliveinabag]

Go play a real SMT game personababy

[HeideKnight]

Originally posted by Zprov:

Originally posted by HeideKnight:

. I come to this conclusion by not having played the game myself

Opinion discarded

This is the advantage these days that you don't have to actually play a game in order to be able to see what it is about and form an opinion about it. There are many streamers who play the game right now and where one can see exactly what is going on.

[Magnum]

Originally posted by HeideKnight:

I don't think that this game will be GOTY when GTA6 releases later this year.

That being said, it seems to me that Expedition 33 is a game that is very much overhyped. I come to this conclusion by not having played the game myself, but having watched a couple of streams which showed what the game is about and how the gameplay looks like.

And I think that some outlets who reviewed the game use double standards when they rate the game compared to other games which came out this year.

Specifically, PCgamesN wrote the following in their review for the game Avowed:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/avowed/review
"As my colleague Christian mentioned in his Avowed preview, the world is oddly static. Most environmental objects are non-interactive, doors that look like they should open don't, and straying from the beaten path tends to end in disappointment."
which is a fair argument to make if you are looking for a game where NPCs walks around and maybe have a day/night cycle behaviour (like in Oblivion) for example. They gave Avowed a low score of 6/10.

The same outlet also reviewed Expedition 33 (reviewed by someone else, hoewever) and gave the game an 8/10.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/clair-obscur-expedition-33/review
The point is that in this review nothing is said about the staticness of the world: NPCs don't move in the environment, enemies don't move in the environment. Why? Why does it matter in Avowed and why not in Expedition 33? And how can the latter be called a "masterpiece" when there are obvious flaws like this which (at least for some) break the immersion? In fact, I haven't seen this point being discussed in any of the reviews for the game so far.

My conclusion is that most of the reviews about games are very biased. But more importantly, I feel like that the high praise for video games these days has masked the objective flaws of some of them. One can see this by the large number of games which have been given the tag "masterpiece" already this year alone:

• Kingdom Come Deliverance 2
  
• Split Fiction 2
  
• Blue Prince
  
• Expedition 33

and I don't think that any of them deserve this (while some of them certainly being above average games of the 8/10 category).

You point out a fine detail of eurocentric and "anti wokism" even if it really isnt about ism or bias. The fact remains this game has majority female counterparts from what I've seen and that caters to a specific audience as usual. That said, I Kingdom come deliverance isnt a bad game per say but why the hell would I want to relive medieval Europe vs anywhere else in the world? Peasants worried about having their labor stolen or kings sleeping with their newly wed wives, stop glorifying that nonsense. If it's not witcher it's some other game where everyone looks dirty and sick as if the world was also victims of the black plague. Gtfo here with that.

In terms of the reviews. I love obsidian games. Always been a fan. I was skeptical of avowed. I smelled it on release and have fully resigned seeing loreim skyrim mod just outpace it in every way. Then the oblivion remaster came out and some one went out the way to show comparisons. It's a joke how under baked avowed is to a true oblivion remaster using the old game mechanics. Sillyness like missing arrows or reactive objects.

This game has the excuse of lower budget smaller team. Then again, Kenshi far as I know was a solo mission and it's still peak of what it does jank included. Kenshi is also a firmly unique title though a samurai dune fanaticism but unique as a game. This small group excuse is getting old.

[Viper]

You cant fully experience this game through video. Especially since combat is so hands on.

[Syiss]

Most people don't put 10% of this effort into their clown farming posts. I don't know what that says about you OP, but it says something

[HeideKnight]

Originally posted by Tiasmoon:

Originally posted by HeideKnight:

I don't think that this game will be GOTY when GTA6 releases later this year.

That being said, it seems to me that Expedition 33 is a game that is very much overhyped.

People are judging the game based on having experienced it. Not because of hype.

GTA6 on the other hand, is overhyped.

Agreed, GTA6 will probably not live up to its hype.

In case of Expedition 33 there are some obvious flaws in the game, which is why I believe that it is overhyped, because you see the following points to be not represented in any review of the game (at least, as far as I have seen so far):

• Static world and NPCs
  
• No spoilers here, but the intially great story resolves into some trivial
  family drama
  
• The turn based combat is spoiled by forced quick time events (perfect parry/dodges), so the game is not really a strategical/tactical turn based game, but more some kind of Soulslike action game
  
• The turn based combat also misses any depth of classical turn based games (like Heroes of Might and Magic, King's Bounty, XCOM) in that the party members and the enemies are standing still during combat. In the classical turn based games like HoMaM the combat arena is segemented into individaul fields and an action of a party member then is composed of the movement on the map and an attack move. This is very much like chess where one needs to think of the enemie's move in advance. This main appeal of turn based combat games is completely missing in Expedition 33

[Archiver13]

The moment i saw one of your issues was "Female Led Cast" I stopped reading. Grow up.

[SgtDragoon]

Originally posted by Magnum:

My take, if you can't find enjoyment in a game from advertising let alone an rpg play through than why buy it? That repeated excuse just exposes how slow people are not even calling you out....yet. Just the pretense you are not the only saying it. Which I laugh at because I just report. Why comment if you cant read? Free report? Weird type of special these days.

On topic, rpg play doesn't have a lot of variance. It's like watching ff7 remake and expecting different. A very simple real time with a very repetitive game play loop. Even re4 remake which i deem peak wasn't worth buying because of how many times I watched it. It's more a one time thing then just getting the best after. I like full on replay ability and customization. Make my own char a dif way each time. This is where souls tops or pathfinder and crpgs take the cake. Even war and strat games which present randomness take the cake. This is why I watch videos. That rebuttal..is very idiotic in my opinion but i'll humor you. Again, why fund what you disagree with? I don't want more eurocentric games out the game nor a repeat of larian so why just dump prematurely? Big thoughts that go beyond you surely so lets leave that. Europe has a very infant like view of concepts and real world engagements in my opinion. American standard even less than that. If I want deep philosophy in game, I don't want greco pandering.

Now we have a crossover in view. Over hyped but likely the best in awhile. Is something new because lacking though in my opinion only new to those who haven't seen similar which I have. The only thing I'll add is that the end game loop is what I haven't been able to touch. That is actually neat for a game to finally make it's end game better than it's beginning as a lot have had weak endings lately.

I may have under thought it's value. There is more depth than it came off but it is still middle ground and trickles above avg in my book. At best a 6.5 but certainly not the 7 that BG3 broken state and broken act 3 presented. I despise teh story and world of bg3 for being boggled down with personal inputs over lore realism. Even past being corrected after release, the game in it's enjoyable parts is now too unbearable to want to replay taxed with the chore of loot to want to hard mode.

Those are my opinions and taste.

Lol reporting a post thats not violating community guidelines doesnt actually do anything...
Yes I skimmed most of your wall of text. Sorry mate but your first paragraph didn't exactly entice me to want to read the rest of your memoir in it entirety.
Your entitled to your opinion, but when you've based it off of clips and come to the forum to make a criticizing post yeah call it an excuse but it smells like bait trolling.

Also lets be real even back in the day games had to be patched on occasion that was on console, and most console games werent on PC... meaning optimizing was much easier...
Not excusing purely bad optimization but on pc there are so many factors why someone game isnt working that typically comes down to unupdated software or conflicting software if not outdated hardware...

Also great you compared this game with 3 others, and determined what? It couldnt beat them in a over all pairing? Sure no doubt.
But thats like saying the cult of people who loved legend of dragoon have ♥♥♥♥♥ standards because FF7 beat them out. DoL didnt lack heart or creativity. Just one took off and the other didnt.

Anyway you do you.
cheers and good luck on that report button. [/quote]

[Magnum]

Originally posted by Archiver13:

The moment i saw one of your issues was "Female Led Cast" I stopped reading. Grow up.

Sounds like you have a gender issue about the political exploit conducted on you. This would in fact show the ones who needs to grow up is yourself. Maybe you can't understand the concept of weaponized ideals in media. Maybe this is something you think shows it cares about you despite the blatant inequity of class, race, and gender today. Your naive comforts are quite telling.

Why does it bother you so that someone doesn't want a female cast? Why does that justify your inability to read and get over a childish temper tantrum honed into stubborn ignorance? Always a laugh in steam forums. Though I am actually curious of your reasoning that someone's claim with thorough explanation can be so bothersome you can explain nor digest. Seems you missed the womanism over feminism too.

[HeideKnight]

Originally posted by Magnum:

Originally posted by HeideKnight:

I don't think that this game will be GOTY when GTA6 releases later this year.

That being said, it seems to me that Expedition 33 is a game that is very much overhyped. I come to this conclusion by not having played the game myself, but having watched a couple of streams which showed what the game is about and how the gameplay looks like.

And I think that some outlets who reviewed the game use double standards when they rate the game compared to other games which came out this year.

Specifically, PCgamesN wrote the following in their review for the game Avowed:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/avowed/review
"As my colleague Christian mentioned in his Avowed preview, the world is oddly static. Most environmental objects are non-interactive, doors that look like they should open don't, and straying from the beaten path tends to end in disappointment."
which is a fair argument to make if you are looking for a game where NPCs walks around and maybe have a day/night cycle behaviour (like in Oblivion) for example. They gave Avowed a low score of 6/10.

The same outlet also reviewed Expedition 33 (reviewed by someone else, hoewever) and gave the game an 8/10.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/clair-obscur-expedition-33/review
The point is that in this review nothing is said about the staticness of the world: NPCs don't move in the environment, enemies don't move in the environment. Why? Why does it matter in Avowed and why not in Expedition 33? And how can the latter be called a "masterpiece" when there are obvious flaws like this which (at least for some) break the immersion? In fact, I haven't seen this point being discussed in any of the reviews for the game so far.

My conclusion is that most of the reviews about games are very biased. But more importantly, I feel like that the high praise for video games these days has masked the objective flaws of some of them. One can see this by the large number of games which have been given the tag "masterpiece" already this year alone:

• Kingdom Come Deliverance 2
  
• Split Fiction 2
  
• Blue Prince
  
• Expedition 33

and I don't think that any of them deserve this (while some of them certainly being above average games of the 8/10 category).

You point out a fine detail of eurocentric and "anti wokism" even if it really isnt about ism or bias. The fact remains this game has majority female counterparts from what I've seen and that caters to a specific audience as usual. That said, I Kingdom come deliverance isnt a bad game per say but why the hell would I want to relive medieval Europe vs anywhere else in the world? Peasants worried about having their labor stolen or kings sleeping with their newly wed wives, stop glorifying that nonsense. If it's not witcher it's some other game where everyone looks dirty and sick as if the world was also victims of the black plague. Gtfo here with that.

In terms of the reviews. I love obsidian games. Always been a fan. I was skeptical of avowed. I smelled it on release and have fully resigned seeing loreim skyrim mod just outpace it in every way. Then the oblivion remaster came out and some one went out the way to show comparisons. It's a joke how under baked avowed is to a true oblivion remaster using the old game mechanics. Sillyness like missing arrows or reactive objects.

This game has the excuse of lower budget smaller team. Then again, Kenshi far as I know was a solo mission and it's still peak of what it does jank included. Kenshi is also a firmly unique title though a samurai dune fanaticism but unique as a game. This small group excuse is getting old.

Kingdom Come 2 is the one game in the list that I played myself and I just wanted to add that I don't dislike the game. It was a great experience, even though I did not like a couple of things in the gameplay (like the combat and the minigames). It is great as a story game, but no "masterpiece" by any stretch. We should come to the point again where we can critcise certain things in a video game without being attacked as being a hater of it by the fanboys. I don't hate any of the games mentioned, I also don't hate Expedition 33, but for me this is not a masterpiece or anywhere close to GOTY with the selection of games we have so far this early in the year.

[Viper]

Originally posted by Magnum:

Originally posted by Archiver13:

The moment i saw one of your issues was "Female Led Cast" I stopped reading. Grow up.

Sounds like you have a gender issue about the political exploit conducted on you. This would in fact show the ones who needs to grow up is yourself. Maybe you can't understand the concept of weaponized ideals in media. Maybe this is something you think shows it cares about you despite the blatant inequity of class, race, and gender today. Your naive comforts are quite telling.

Why does it bother you so that someone doesn't want a female cast? Why does that justify your inability to read and get over a childish temper tantrum honed into stubborn ignorance? Always a laugh in steam forums. Though I am actually curious of your reasoning that someone's claim with thorough explanation can be so bothersome you can explain nor digest. Seems you missed the womanism over feminism too.

Your the one who has issues with women. People are just commenting on that. Nobody is having a temper tantrum. The gaming world has no issues with women in our games. There are men also. Its far from an all women cast....very far.

[Yami]

Originally posted by Lunarblaze:

1. Story isn't everything. If you just care about story, go read a book.
2. You clearly have a preference for a certain kind of narrative. Not everyone shares that preference.
3. The year in GOTY refers to this year. Which is 2025. Sorry to say, but they just don't make games like they did back then.

back then this game wasnt even possible

[Magnum]

Originally posted by SgtDragoon:

Originally posted by Magnum:

My take, if you can't find enjoyment in a game from advertising let alone an rpg play through than why buy it? That repeated excuse just exposes how slow people are not even calling you out....yet. Just the pretense you are not the only saying it. Which I laugh at because I just report. Why comment if you cant read? Free report? Weird type of special these days.

On topic, rpg play doesn't have a lot of variance. It's like watching ff7 remake and expecting different. A very simple real time with a very repetitive game play loop. Even re4 remake which i deem peak wasn't worth buying because of how many times I watched it. It's more a one time thing then just getting the best after. I like full on replay ability and customization. Make my own char a dif way each time. This is where souls tops or pathfinder and crpgs take the cake. Even war and strat games which present randomness take the cake. This is why I watch videos. That rebuttal..is very idiotic in my opinion but i'll humor you. Again, why fund what you disagree with? I don't want more eurocentric games out the game nor a repeat of larian so why just dump prematurely? Big thoughts that go beyond you surely so lets leave that. Europe has a very infant like view of concepts and real world engagements in my opinion. American standard even less than that. If I want deep philosophy in game, I don't want greco pandering.

Now we have a crossover in view. Over hyped but likely the best in awhile. Is something new because lacking though in my opinion only new to those who haven't seen similar which I have. The only thing I'll add is that the end game loop is what I haven't been able to touch. That is actually neat for a game to finally make it's end game better than it's beginning as a lot have had weak endings lately.

I may have under thought it's value. There is more depth than it came off but it is still middle ground and trickles above avg in my book. At best a 6.5 but certainly not the 7 that BG3 broken state and broken act 3 presented. I despise teh story and world of bg3 for being boggled down with personal inputs over lore realism. Even past being corrected after release, the game in it's enjoyable parts is now too unbearable to want to replay taxed with the chore of loot to want to hard mode.

Those are my opinions and taste.

Lol reporting a post thats not violating community guidelines doesnt actually do anything...
Yes I skimmed most of your wall of text. Sorry mate but your first paragraph didn't exactly entice me to want to read the rest of your memoir in it entirety.
Your entitled to your opinion, but when you've based it off of clips and come to the forum to make a criticizing post yeah call it an excuse but it smells like bait trolling.

Also lets be real even back in the day games had to be patched on occasion that was on console, and most console games werent on PC... meaning optimizing was much easier...
Not excusing purely bad optimization but on pc there are so many factors why someone game isnt working that typically comes down to unupdated software or conflicting software if not outdated hardware...

Also great you compared this game with 3 others, and determined what? It couldnt beat them in a over all pairing? Sure no doubt.
But thats like saying the cult of people who loved legend of dragoon have ♥♥♥♥♥ standards because FF7 beat them out. DoL didnt lack heart or creativity. Just one took off and the other didnt.

Anyway you do you.
cheers and good luck on that report button.

[/quote]


Well, your ego dominated your post. If you read clearly I said it wasn't targeted at you nor do you have any grounds to decide on the open because you clearly didn't read what I clarified on that pint then admitted to it in the post. The claim was GOTY from a weak opening which is true in comparison. The gripe was game value vs hype which is also a reality. The added layer was how I came about teh game and saw it in my own opinion and why I came to a game base of people seeking reasoning but instead got a bunch of moronic childish pandering in mass.

You even disputed a comparison. As if all aspects of life aren't comparisons. The one way we learn and grow progress and improve...comparisons. You have justified my claim on indulging a game pandering on Greco limitation. Childish infant like levels of thought that are unsatisfying and ultimately a signal of why people are so incapable today. Why ingest a game that will remind me people can't "think"? You already can't read. Note that thinking isn't with your brain. Half the problem lies there as is.

At least you tried. No worries no more feedback from you needed.