why only 33 expeditions after 67 years of countdown.

[hrachtandilyan]

My GPT tells there is not further explanation on this in later story as well. Did they have years when they didn’t launch expedition or a storytelling mistake?

Edit: common consensus on this seems to be that expedition naming started from 0 and after followed the number on the wall, basically 0, 99, 98, …, 34, 33 which is not very intuitive

[Kapika96]

C1REX a écrit :

Kapika96 a écrit :

Arguably expedition 1 would've made more sense, at least in English. Maybe in France they start counting from 0 though? Alternatively when talking computers it's standard to have the first item labeled 0, so it could be from that too.

Expedition 1 would be a terrible name as there is potentially a time where the clock actually reach that number even if there would be no people left.

I repeat, they didn't know it was counting down at that point. Hence why expedition 1 would've made sense. For all they knew it could've stayed at 100, changed to random numbers, gone up or down, changed at different times of the year etc.

Sure, you can say it would be a bad name it retrospect, just like they say expedition 0 is a bad name now. But at the time when people were doing the expedition they didn't know what they current people know.

[Aetherfall]

There is no expedition 99, 98 etc. Expedition 0 was the first expedition. Then they stopped for 15 years and started again in Expedition 84, this time implementing writing journals for the next to read so it might be useful.

Open your Journal, you'll see the expeditions there are only from 34 to 84.

I don't think it's very relevant to the plot, I don't think remember the characters mentioning it either. But Journal 84 will explicitly state they paused the expedition for 15 years and only resumed just then.

[parent child bowl]

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hrachtandilyan a écrit :

If expedition name matches the writing on the wall why was the first one called 0 not 100? (NPCs remark on the same..)

Maybe they called it "Expedition 0" back then, to point out that they will end the threat and no other Expedition needs to follow? After all, they were the first ones to go...

They didn't know about the threat yet when they started Expedition 00. Expeditions had a different purpose back then.

[C1REX]

Kapika96 a écrit :

C1REX a écrit :

Expedition 1 would be a terrible name as there is potentially a time where the clock actually reach that number even if there would be no people left.

I repeat, they didn't know it was counting down at that point. Hence why expedition 1 would've made sense. For all they knew it could've stayed at 100, changed to random numbers, gone up or down, changed at different times of the year etc.

Sure, you can say it would be a bad name it retrospect, just like they say expedition 0 is a bad name now. But at the time when people were doing the expedition they didn't know what they current people know.

Sure but the name probably was given later when next expedition was planned. The expedition zero was likely called The Expedition at first.

[BroHomie]

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ArmedTerror a écrit :

Not sure which part of his post makes you think he is trolling, but what he says is accurate with the first expedition being called expedition 0, and then the expeditions counting down from 100 (which was the one that was called "expedition 0"). The MC also said that it annoyed him that they called it expedition 0 rather than expedition 100.

Not really sure what he means by the "mathematically correct" statement or "issue from the devs" thing though.

its because he isn't correct. this person is under the assumption that the expedition after 0 was expedition 1 and then 2 and so on to 33 which isn't true and everything in the game points to that not being true, you continue to find expedition journals and flags from expeditions above 33 and this person is either blind, ignoring them, or intentionally misrepresenting it for laughs. hence "are you trolling?"

Holy toxicity in this thread. I came here wondering the same thing as OP. I searched this up right at the start of Act 1 just after talking to the same NPC that OP mentions. I haven't found any expedition journals at this point and maybe OP posted this at the same point in the game. Regardless, why instantly jump to hostility if you had the answer to the guys question all along. The hell is wrong with people.

[ZexxCrine]

BroHomie a écrit :

ZexxCrine a écrit :

its because he isn't correct. this person is under the assumption that the expedition after 0 was expedition 1 and then 2 and so on to 33 which isn't true and everything in the game points to that not being true, you continue to find expedition journals and flags from expeditions above 33 and this person is either blind, ignoring them, or intentionally misrepresenting it for laughs. hence "are you trolling?"

Holy toxicity in this thread. I came here wondering the same thing as OP. I searched this up right at the start of Act 1 just after talking to the same NPC that OP mentions. I haven't found any expedition journals at this point and maybe OP posted this at the same point in the game. Regardless, why instantly jump to hostility if you had the answer to the guys question all along. The hell is wrong with people.

lets just ignore context and cry toxicity and hostility. the person I am referring to is not you. the person I am referring to was told on more than one occasion the correct answer, and then they came back and argued that no in-fact they were correct. but sure add to the toxicity you you claim to wish didn't exist.

[Hellos]

BroHomie a écrit :

ZexxCrine a écrit :

its because he isn't correct. this person is under the assumption that the expedition after 0 was expedition 1 and then 2 and so on to 33 which isn't true and everything in the game points to that not being true, you continue to find expedition journals and flags from expeditions above 33 and this person is either blind, ignoring them, or intentionally misrepresenting it for laughs. hence "are you trolling?"

Holy toxicity in this thread. I came here wondering the same thing as OP. I searched this up right at the start of Act 1 just after talking to the same NPC that OP mentions. I haven't found any expedition journals at this point and maybe OP posted this at the same point in the game. Regardless, why instantly jump to hostility if you had the answer to the guys question all along. The hell is wrong with people.

Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing while reading this.
I made the same obervations in some similar threads on this site yesterday, as well as some threads about that topic on Reddit.
I have no idea why people get soooo mad absout something like that... If you think someone asks a stupid question, why not just ignore it?
Well, I guess some people are just really angry, sad, bitter and/or lonely and this is their way to cope with it?
Really sad if you think about it... :(

[cshizzle]

hrachtandilyan a écrit :

My GPT tells there is not further explanation on this in later story as well. Did they have years when they didn’t launch expedition or a storytelling mistake?

Edit: common consensus on this seems to be that expedition naming started from 0 and after followed the number on the wall, basically 0, 99, 98, …, 34, 33 which is not very intuitive

Originally they thought they would name expeditions in order 0, 1, 2... So the initial expedition was Expedition 0.

Later they decided to name the expeditions based on the number that was painted on the rock.

However they didn't go back to renamed Expedition 0 to be in line with the newer naming convention.

A real life example would be World War 1 and World War 2. World War 1 was originally called The Great War, but only later renamed to World War 1. Pretend we never renamed it. We'd have The Great War, and World War 2, but World War 1 would be "missing". That's what is happening in the game. Just pretend Expedition 0 is The Great War and Expedition 100 is World War 1

[Bird Guy]

BroHomie a écrit :

ZexxCrine a écrit :

its because he isn't correct. this person is under the assumption that the expedition after 0 was expedition 1 and then 2 and so on to 33 which isn't true and everything in the game points to that not being true, you continue to find expedition journals and flags from expeditions above 33 and this person is either blind, ignoring them, or intentionally misrepresenting it for laughs. hence "are you trolling?"

Holy toxicity in this thread. I came here wondering the same thing as OP. I searched this up right at the start of Act 1 just after talking to the same NPC that OP mentions. I haven't found any expedition journals at this point and maybe OP posted this at the same point in the game. Regardless, why instantly jump to hostility if you had the answer to the guys question all along. The hell is wrong with people.

Cause OP is delegating their observational skills to an AI. Even under the assumption of an LLM being perfectly logical (and no, it's not, they're statistical machines. They operate off of the most likely result rather than any form of logical calculation and reasoning), the idea you can get accurate info about something that was only released a few days ago from one is asinine. In your situation, you searched it up and (hopefully) gained proper context from other real people who have played through the game, who can all corroborate, fact check , and theorize with each other (such as what a lot of people in this thread are doing). OP, on the other hand, asked an LLM, and was given misinformation because LLMs don't actually know anything, and will print whatever it can to make it seem like it does.

[Great Love]

Brainrot.

[Krainz337]

hrachtandilyan a écrit :

My GPT tells there is not further explanation on this in later story as well. Did they have years when they didn’t launch expedition or a storytelling mistake?

Edit: common consensus on this seems to be that expedition naming started from 0 and after followed the number on the wall, basically 0, 99, 98, …, 34, 33 which is not very intuitive

Maybe play the game and pay attention

[Veylox]

It doesn't have to be intuitive, even if you somehow skipped the entire prologue that explained exactly that, you still were given a whole expedition journal that opens whenever you find an expedition record and shows you there were like 70 of them

[ben]

Please try to think for yourself instead of letting an AI do it for you (and be mostly wrong).

[parent child bowl]

cshizzle a écrit :

hrachtandilyan a écrit :

My GPT tells there is not further explanation on this in later story as well. Did they have years when they didn’t launch expedition or a storytelling mistake?

Edit: common consensus on this seems to be that expedition naming started from 0 and after followed the number on the wall, basically 0, 99, 98, …, 34, 33 which is not very intuitive

Originally they thought they would name expeditions in order 0, 1, 2... So the initial expedition was Expedition 0.

Later they decided to name the expeditions based on the number that was painted on the rock.

However they didn't go back to renamed Expedition 0 to be in line with the newer naming convention.

A real life example would be World War 1 and World War 2. World War 1 was originally called The Great War, but only later renamed to World War 1. Pretend we never renamed it. We'd have The Great War, and World War 2, but World War 1 would be "missing". That's what is happening in the game. Just pretend Expedition 0 is The Great War and Expedition 100 is World War 1

I heard that World War 1 was named that way because they considered it to be the start of a franchise.

[cshizzle]

parent child bowl a écrit :

cshizzle a écrit :

Originally they thought they would name expeditions in order 0, 1, 2... So the initial expedition was Expedition 0.

Later they decided to name the expeditions based on the number that was painted on the rock.

However they didn't go back to renamed Expedition 0 to be in line with the newer naming convention.

A real life example would be World War 1 and World War 2. World War 1 was originally called The Great War, but only later renamed to World War 1. Pretend we never renamed it. We'd have The Great War, and World War 2, but World War 1 would be "missing". That's what is happening in the game. Just pretend Expedition 0 is The Great War and Expedition 100 is World War 1

I heard that World War 1 was named that way because they considered it to be the start of a franchise.

Exactly! The ability to sell sequels ever year with a minimum amount of changes and effort is THE most important part of a game. The Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 folks really shot themselves in the foot when it comes into cashing in on sequels.

Edit: The more I think about it this is actually great for prequels. Expedition 0 would be a great prequel. So would Expedition 67 because that's when people figured the numbers out and are starting to panic. They could even have an Expedition 34 to show what the characters were doing the year immediately before the events in Expedition 33.