Chromatic Lancelier fight is killing me (literally and metaphorically)

[NamelessGod]

I have spent past 2 hours trying to put CL down, lvl 3's, on expert and expeditioner. That said, I have no idea what I am doing wrong, but for the life of me I can't dodge/parry like 10 times in a row in order to kill him. He oneshots you if he hits ya, his animation is weird, he doesn't give audio or visual cues and if you dodge/parry a millisecond too early/too late, bam - start over. Is it supposed to be this way and you aren't supposed to kill him early unless you are a QTE God and can do it perfectly? Like, my best attempt was dodging him four times in a row by sheer luck, after that I mess up somewhere and it's back to sq 1.

[Miro Fox]

i kicked his ass the first time, had to look up who you were talking about XP.

The Chromatic Sword guy on the island is the one im strugglign on.

[Naurmael]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Axolian:

What helped me get it is (and tbh even on Expeditionary difficulty timing is fairly tight) you gotta wait until it looks like you should be taking damage in the animation and then hit R1 (or whatever your equivalent is if you aren't using PS controller). Ordinarily in games the parry is *just before* you get hit, but this game seems to favor more right as you're *being hit* which is a lot different than I'm used to.

This was the best advice I've seen for this fight and finally got my win after one more try. Thanks!

[Boarban]

Diposting pertama kali oleh NamelessGod:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Bob:

I downed him after like 4 attempts. Skill issue i am afraid. I appreciate that the devs put him there, he dosnt have a ton of hp but he will kill you if you dont dodge and parry.

You are amazing and no one can rival your skills. That doesn't really address my question though.

Please never respond to soulsborne brainrotten ♥♥♥♥♥ like this, thanks.

[AirSniffer]

Skill issue. He is BY FAR the easiest chromatic enemy.

[Ophion]

The parry timing is very inconsistent visually unfortunately. On the quick attack for example you can parry when the tip of the spear is right in front of your character, but for the slow attack and first "normal" 2x attack you have to literally let the tip of the spear pierce you and then parry. It feels too late, it should be too late, but it isn't.

A very important note here is that how you perceive the parry timing can vary greatly depending on how responsive your input device is. For example I usually game on a keyboard with a 0.1mm actuation depth, meaning that the input is pretty much instant as soon as I begin pressing the key. If I change to a more normal 2mm actuation depth then I effectively have to parry sooner because my input gets delayed by the time it takes me to push the key that additional 1.9mm. That actually makes parrying feel more intuitive since I am now actually parrying before the attack lands rather than afterwards. The same goes for a controller, that also feels a bit easier, and if you're playing on a TV then that can also add some latency.

Also worth noting is that Gustave's Overcharge is by far the strongest offensive skill in this fight, at least if you do it on level 3 (expert) like I did. If you start off with Assault and do Overcharge asap then after that it should be very nearly defeated. It probably took me 10-15 attempts. My successful attempt went like this:

turn 1 (Gustave): Aim + Assault
turn 2 (Lune): Immolation
turn 3: Gustave parry 2x
turn 4 (Gustave): Overcharge
turn 5: Gustave failed parry and killed
turn 6 (Lune): Ice Lance
turn 7: Lune parry 1x
turn 8 (Lune): Immolation
turn 9: Lune parry 1x
turn 10 (Line): Immolation, victory

In total that was 4 successful parries to win, and Gustave even died, so it's not a very long fight.

[Lambi]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ophion:

The parry timing is very inconsistent visually unfortunately. On the quick attack for example you can dodge when the tip of the spear is right in front of your character, but for the slow attack and first "normal" 2x attack you have to literally let the tip of the spear pierce you and then parry. It feels too late, it should be too late, but it isn't.

Also worth noting is that Gustave's Overcharge is by far the strongest offensive skill in this fight, at least if you do it on level 3 (expert) like I did. If you start off with Assault and do Overcharge asap then after that it should be very nearly defeated. It probably took me 10-15 attempts. My successful attempt went like this:

turn 1 (Gustave): Aim + Assault
turn 2 (Lune): Immolation
turn 3: Gustave parry 2x
turn 4 (Gustave): Overcharge
turn 5: Gustave failed parry and killed
turn 6 (Lune): Ice Lance
turn 7: Lune parry 1x
turn 8 (Lune): Immolation
turn 9: Lune parry 1x
turn 10 (Line): Immolation, victory

In total that was 4 successful parries to win, and Gustave even died, so it's not a very long fight.

Genuine question: Why did you keep attempting to exclusively parry if it didn't work out for you? Why not just dodge?

[Ophion]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lambi:

Genuine question: Why did you keep attempting to exclusively parry if it didn't work out for you? Why not just dodge?

Because a successful parry gives you AP and deals a lot of counterattack damage. If you don't parry then the fight becomes longer, so although it's slightly easier you need to do it many more times.

And because I'm stubborn. Not parrying feels like the easy way out, and I am playing on expert for the challenge.

[Lambi]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ophion:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lambi:

Genuine question: Why did you keep attempting to exclusively parry if it didn't work out for you? Why not just dodge?

Because a successful parry gives you AP and deals a a lot counterattack damage. If you don't parry then the fight becomes longer, so although it's slightly easier you need to do it many more times.

And because I'm stubborn. Not parrying feels like the easy way out, and I am playing on expert for the challenge.

Alright lol. That's valid. Was just wondering. Cause if a boss took me 10-15+ attempts, I'd just start dodging instead of parrying. But I respect the hustle.