High CPU temp during map loads

[Rj]

Hello,
I noticed my Ryujin III Xtreme AIO reports "critical CPU temp" on its display, around 80-82° during the game but only when I change map (you know when you take those portals between one place and another). It only happens during such loadings otherwise temps are around 60 for GPU and 50 for CPU normally.


Do you guys have the same issue?
Thanks

Ryzen 9800x3d
Astral 5090
32Gb ram

[Rj]

Originally posted by Pumpernikkeli:

Just get prime and furmark and test the temps. Besides, 80-something for a while is nowhere near too hot. There's NOTHING in specific software that make your components run hotter than they can. It's either problem that happens in all 100% loads or just a spike that takes few more seconds to even out depending on your curves.

I did it, nothing wrong, barely 68°

[Pumpernikkeli]

Cool. If you used both programs correctly then there's no problem and any game ever made will be no different.

edit: only difference I can think of, and this is baseless speculation, is sudden boosting of few cores causing temp spike which wouldn't happen in even 100% stress load. And even then temps are well within normal limits. Modern components throttle somewhere round 95-105 C and anything below is basically okay, especially if not constant and prolonged.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Rj:

Originally posted by DM:

Just because its an expensive AIO, doesn't necessarily mean its:

1) not faulty

2) not the right part for the job

3) not configured or installed incorrectly

4) not overpriced for the specs

5) not installed in a case thats just too small

6) isn't immune to the problem with all AIO's - they have limited working life due to the coolant either leaking or just eventually evaporating out of the tubes over a long period.

Now it could be oriented and installed correctly, is not faulty, could be worth the money and performing as it should, but a few things happen with cooling and heat saturation.

If your CPU runs hot enough for long enough it will heat soak the case, and the components including the AIO, and if the load is sustained enough you will reach new thermal highs. The thermal sensor might also be reading specific hotspots on the CPU die, which can read much higher temps than the rest of the CPU die.

The things to check are how sustained the high loads are, how fast the temps rise, and importantly, how fast the temps return to normal once the load spike drops off. If the temps drop off really fast every time then be happy that your AIO is doing it's job well and this is just an edge case.

I like to run AMD Ryzen Master in the small window when I want to check over my CPU temps coz I can see at a glance whats going on.

I just tested the game and my CPU temp (Ryzen 7 5700 X3D with stock profile) is about 52C on the overworld map. Portaling into la new zone raises the temp by 3C for a few seconds and then it drops straight back down again. I portalled in and out of the zone about 5x in a row to see if it would drive up the temps further, but it didnt.

My cooling is a full custom loop though, but only includes the CPU, with a 360mm radiator top exhaust, 240mm radiator floor intake and a distro plate mounted in the front, so I have a lot more fluid than you would see in an AIO.

Thanks for the reply,
Ye it goes up to 80+ for barely 2-3 secs when I take some portals (not all of them) before going back down to constant 50 more or less.
I simply dont get why this is the only game that does this thing.
Not a problem tho, just curious

Probably because it's loading the map and shader cache specifically needed for the at the same time. Other games do their shader caching when loading the game, but this one didn't do that which tells me it's loading the needed shader cache for each map during map loading and during cut scenes. It's actually a smart way to do it.

[Elric of Swoleniboné]

Originally posted by Mirona:

Originally posted by Rj:

Nope, wrong.

First of all Pc has 1 month life and i got 1 of the best AIO out there.
Also, i have this issue ONLY in this game, no problems during loading in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 or Oblivion Remaster or Khazan or anything else.

It's definately something weird with this game, something I dont understand, i give you that.

you could have a truck radiator on your pc and it would not change that i am right. you may have on paper a great cooling solution. that does not mean or proof to me that it is working in 100% order

You are in fact, not right. You are a complete clown spouting complete and utter bullsh!t.
Having 90 degree temps at 35% CPU and GPU usage when much more demanding games cause no such problems is not a """COOLING ISSUE""".
It's an issue with this cancerous UE5 joke being optimized like trash and running poorly on expensive hardware it has no business running poorly on.

Do us all a favor and shut up for good.

[Rj]

Originally posted by Elric of Swoleniboné:

Originally posted by Mirona:

you could have a truck radiator on your pc and it would not change that i am right. you may have on paper a great cooling solution. that does not mean or proof to me that it is working in 100% order

You are in fact, not right. You are a complete clown spouting complete and utter bullsh!t.
Having 90 degree temps at 35% CPU and GPU usage when much more demanding games cause no such problems is not a """COOLING ISSUE""".
It's an issue with this cancerous UE5 joke being optimized like trash and running poorly on expensive hardware it has no business running poorly on.

Do us all a favor and shut up for good.

Finally someone who actually understands how it works :D

[ManureTruck]

Nvidia released driver updates to address CPU temp issues.

Turns out it was a driver issue all along.

They had a hotfix driver update for the issue available on their support forums all the way back on April 15th, but it didn't make it to the Nvidia app or the main driver download pages until a few days ago.

And the devs did no optimization on Epic graphics mode. They optimized the game for consoles, so there is almost no visual difference between High and Epic settings. Set your graphics to High. Your eyes won't be able to tell the difference unless you're a pixel-hunting dork but your GPU will thank you.

[C H A I R M A N]

I think the game's fps limiter is set up a bit wonky, like when you pause a cutscene it will go from 30fps to 60fps and the higher graphics settings tuned for the cutscenes and the reason for the 30fps limit in them will make lower end GPUs sweat bullets. A similar thing probably happens on loading screens. The fps lock gets completely disengaged for better loading speed and some UE5 thread then spins freely causing much higher CPU usage.

But that said, AMD says 90°C is perfectly fine for their ASICs (both CPU and GPU) and they're by default set up to eat electricity and spit out clock speeds until they hit that temperature. If that number in temperature bothers you and you're okay with forgoing diminished returns in clock speeds then set a lower temperature limit.

I have a 5800X limited to 100W PPT and 75°C with -15CO and the real world loss in performance is negligible. Compiling stuff in Gentoo still has the CPU reach ~4.6 GHz on all cores like stock and games usually never touch these limits anyway.
Similarly I limited my RX 7600 to 2.4 GHz because it would otherwise just run at 90-95°C hotpsot temps with only 1-2 extra fps in some of the more graphics heavy scenes where fps drop below 60 using the same settings. It uses ~100W electrical power to run at 2.4 GHz but for an extra 200 MHz boost it needs another 60W average. It's a bit ludicrous.

[Shinigami212]

Originally posted by Mirona:

whenever your computer is getting too hot its not the softwares fault but the cooling solution. if you cooling cant handle consistent 100% load than your cooling is insufficient.

and to think an uncapped framerate causes your problem just shows your understanding of what a load means. and before someone says this, i dont deny there may be a situation with extra heavy load, which is not representive of the game and that this load may get lowered and "fixes" your problem.

but that does not change the fact that if your cooling cant handle 100% cpu and gpu load then your system is insufficiently cooled.

and please dont list me other games that dont cause you this problem, it will only further proof my point

in any case your first order of doing since you cant magicly improve your cooling would be to cap your framerate, taking load of your components. but this is a backwards approach of solving your problem. (there are many legit reason to cap a framerate though but that is besides the point)

Software can absolutely cause your system to heat up, because software is what gives your hardware instructions—and those instructions can demand way more power than usual.

Here’s the bottom line:

Stress test tools like Prime95, FurMark, AIDA64, OCCT, etc. exist specifically to max out your CPU, GPU, or both—and they heat your system way more than typical real-world games or apps.

A badly optimized game can hammer your hardware unnecessarily, especially with uncapped framerates, unthrottled physics threads, or inefficient draw calls.

Power viruses are a thing. These are workloads that are crafted just to push thermals and power draw to unsafe levels—some software can do this by mistake, others on purpose.


So yes—software can make your computer dangerously hot. It's not just about the cooling—it’s about the demand being made of the hardware by the code.

[Rj]

Originally posted by Shinigami212:

Originally posted by Mirona:

whenever your computer is getting too hot its not the softwares fault but the cooling solution. if you cooling cant handle consistent 100% load than your cooling is insufficient.

and to think an uncapped framerate causes your problem just shows your understanding of what a load means. and before someone says this, i dont deny there may be a situation with extra heavy load, which is not representive of the game and that this load may get lowered and "fixes" your problem.

but that does not change the fact that if your cooling cant handle 100% cpu and gpu load then your system is insufficiently cooled.

and please dont list me other games that dont cause you this problem, it will only further proof my point

in any case your first order of doing since you cant magicly improve your cooling would be to cap your framerate, taking load of your components. but this is a backwards approach of solving your problem. (there are many legit reason to cap a framerate though but that is besides the point)

Software can absolutely cause your system to heat up, because software is what gives your hardware instructions—and those instructions can demand way more power than usual.

Here’s the bottom line:

Stress test tools like Prime95, FurMark, AIDA64, OCCT, etc. exist specifically to max out your CPU, GPU, or both—and they heat your system way more than typical real-world games or apps.

A badly optimized game can hammer your hardware unnecessarily, especially with uncapped framerates, unthrottled physics threads, or inefficient draw calls.

Power viruses are a thing. These are workloads that are crafted just to push thermals and power draw to unsafe levels—some software can do this by mistake, others on purpose.


So yes—software can make your computer dangerously hot. It's not just about the cooling—it’s about the demand being made of the hardware by the code.

Are you still seriously answering that kid who knows nothing about softwares or hardwares?

[Srksi]

Dudes... Software cant make your cpu pull 200w instead 100w unless there is some serious cpu/mobo bug. CPU overheat at max load? Get better cooling. Simple as that

[LazyAmerican]

Game does seem to run my CPU a bit hotter....but still well within acceptable levels. Even 80C is technically fine....I know we all wince at hearing that but afaik they're designed to handle temps like that easily. As for worrying about long term....more then likely I'd be upgrading long before that kind of temperature melts my PC or whatever.

[Rj]

Originally posted by Srksi:

Dudes... Software cant make your cpu pull 200w instead 100w unless there is some serious cpu/mobo bug. CPU overheat at max load? Get better cooling. Simple as that

I got way more demanding games than this one and never saw more than 60° on them on CPU and there's no way on earth you got a better cooling than mine

[Omnifarious]

Originally posted by Elden Fring:

Originally posted by Mirona:

whenever your computer is getting too hot its not the softwares fault but the cooling solution. if you cooling cant handle consistent 100% load than your cooling is insufficient.

and to think an uncapped framerate causes your problem just shows your understanding of what a load means. and before someone says this, i dont deny there may be a situation with extra heavy load, which is not representive of the game and that this load may get lowered and "fixes" your problem.

but that does not change the fact that if your cooling cant handle 100% cpu and gpu load then your system is insufficiently cooled.

and please dont list me other games that dont cause you this problem, it will only further proof my point

in any case your first order of doing since you cant magicly improve your cooling would be to cap your framerate, taking load of your components. but this is a backwards approach of solving your problem. (there are many legit reason to cap a framerate though but that is besides the point)

Nope, wrong.

First of all Pc has 1 month life and i got 1 of the best AIO out there.
Also, i have this issue ONLY in this game, no problems during loading in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 or Oblivion Remaster or Khazan or anything else.

It's definately something weird with this game, something I dont understand, i give you that.

Go install Prime95, run the torture test and then come back and say he's wrong. Simple fact is the other games weren't utilizing your CPU to full load the way the game is. That's not a problem with the game, it's just your cooler isn't cooling well. Mine peaks around 55-60 through the entire gaming session.

[Rj]

Originally posted by Omnifarious:

Originally posted by Elden Fring:

Nope, wrong.

First of all Pc has 1 month life and i got 1 of the best AIO out there.
Also, i have this issue ONLY in this game, no problems during loading in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 or Oblivion Remaster or Khazan or anything else.

It's definately something weird with this game, something I dont understand, i give you that.

Go install Prime95, run the torture test and then come back and say he's wrong. Simple fact is the other games weren't utilizing your CPU to full load the way the game is. That's not a problem with the game, it's just your cooler isn't cooling well. Mine peaks around 55-60 through the entire gaming session.

Same, game runs at 55-60 constantly. It just peaks at 80+ during map loads. Only in this game, which barely consumes 500 watts, i've played kingdom come deliverance 2, currently playing Oblivion remaster, both easily reach 7-900W in 4k, ultra, rtx with a heavier load on CPU and I never seen more than 60°, gameplay or map/instances loadings. Believe it or not the highest CPU load i've seen is on Apex (2 times heavier than Clair Obscur), during shaders and temp went to 70.
Not to mention several other players in this post who share the same temps only in Clair Obscur like me, go tell them they are wrong.

Also, as I said few comments ago I did run Prime95 already in the past days, the range of temps I saw was 55-78. And that's a stress test, eons far away from what a game like Clair Obscur (which is graphically good but nothing special compared to kingdom come 2 or Wukong) may ever bother

[parent child bowl]

Occasionally hitting 80+°C on a CPU is not overheating. There's nothing to worry about.