High CPU temp during map loads

[Rj]

Hello,
I noticed my Ryujin III Xtreme AIO reports "critical CPU temp" on its display, around 80-82° during the game but only when I change map (you know when you take those portals between one place and another). It only happens during such loadings otherwise temps are around 60 for GPU and 50 for CPU normally.


Do you guys have the same issue?
Thanks

Ryzen 9800x3d
Astral 5090
32Gb ram

[His Noobness]

Got the Same Problem. In black loading Screenshot the framerate increases above 1k fps i think thats the Problem.

[Rj]

Originally posted by His Noobness:

Got the Same Problem. In black loading Screenshot the framerate increases above 1k fps i think thats the Problem.

oh yeah could be, definately. Can I ask for your specs?

[Mirona]

whenever your computer is getting too hot its not the softwares fault but the cooling solution. if you cooling cant handle consistent 100% load than your cooling is insufficient.

and to think an uncapped framerate causes your problem just shows your understanding of what a load means. and before someone says this, i dont deny there may be a situation with extra heavy load, which is not representive of the game and that this load may get lowered and "fixes" your problem.

but that does not change the fact that if your cooling cant handle 100% cpu and gpu load then your system is insufficiently cooled.

and please dont list me other games that dont cause you this problem, it will only further proof my point

in any case your first order of doing since you cant magicly improve your cooling would be to cap your framerate, taking load of your components. but this is a backwards approach of solving your problem. (there are many legit reason to cap a framerate though but that is besides the point)

[Sevitan]

I've noticed this too on my 9800x3d, but 9800 jumping to 80 or 90c+ for a few seconds is its normal behavior. It decides that a sudden spike is the best way to deal with its current task/work load. Would worry unless it's hitting its thermal limit, and even them AMD claims that it can run at 95C constantly for years.

[Sevitan]

Originally posted by His Noobness:

Got the Same Problem. In black loading Screenshot the framerate increases above 1k fps i think thats the Problem.

I've seen this happen in other games, I just used NVIDIA control panel to a set max frame rate.

[Mephisto-Luzifer]

Originally posted by Mirona:

whenever your computer is getting too hot its not the softwares fault but the cooling solution.

Normally yes, but not if its just caused by one program while everythign else is running fine.

Funnywise my 9800x3d also spikes to 88°C at this game. Havent figured out when exactly as i dont check hardware data all the time.
Only had it to get over 80°C when hogwarts was doing shaders.

[Mirona]

Originally posted by Mephisto-Luzifer:

Originally posted by Mirona:

whenever your computer is getting too hot its not the softwares fault but the cooling solution.

Normally yes, but not if its just caused by one program while everythign else is running fine.

Funnywise my 9800x3d also spikes to 88°C at this game. Havent figured out when exactly as i dont check hardware data all the time.
Only had it to get over 80°C when hogwarts was doing shaders.

no this only means you havent ran any software yet that caused this much load and you havent ran into a heat problem because of that. there could be many reasons for that. it could be a gpu or cpu bottleneck in certain games. it could be a frameratecap holding your heatoutput in check or simply a faulty cooling solution. could be mounted badly or something broke etc. many many reasons.

you can also just use prime95 and furmark as an example to test this.
that allows you to produce a full max load onto your components. this will tell you quickly if your cooling solution is insufficient.

and just so you know with modern hardware it is extremly unlikely to damage your pc with too much heat. they will all clock down to prevent overheating and if they cant clock down enough to manage the heat output then they simply shut the pc down.

heat does not kill your pc, at worst a insufficient cooling annoys your ears and lowers your performance. both good reasons to have sufficient cooling

[Rj]

Originally posted by Mirona:

whenever your computer is getting too hot its not the softwares fault but the cooling solution. if you cooling cant handle consistent 100% load than your cooling is insufficient.

and to think an uncapped framerate causes your problem just shows your understanding of what a load means. and before someone says this, i dont deny there may be a situation with extra heavy load, which is not representive of the game and that this load may get lowered and "fixes" your problem.

but that does not change the fact that if your cooling cant handle 100% cpu and gpu load then your system is insufficiently cooled.

and please dont list me other games that dont cause you this problem, it will only further proof my point

in any case your first order of doing since you cant magicly improve your cooling would be to cap your framerate, taking load of your components. but this is a backwards approach of solving your problem. (there are many legit reason to cap a framerate though but that is besides the point)

Nope, wrong.

First of all Pc has 1 month life and i got 1 of the best AIO out there.
Also, i have this issue ONLY in this game, no problems during loading in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 or Oblivion Remaster or Khazan or anything else.

It's definately something weird with this game, something I dont understand, i give you that.

[benj]

Same thing happened to me, game tried to push some crazy high FPS during a loading screen and my CPU went to 90°. Setting an FPS limit for the game fixed it. I wouldn't be surprised if this was responsible for a few crashes.

[Mirona]

Originally posted by Rj:

Originally posted by Mirona:

whenever your computer is getting too hot its not the softwares fault but the cooling solution. if you cooling cant handle consistent 100% load than your cooling is insufficient.

and to think an uncapped framerate causes your problem just shows your understanding of what a load means. and before someone says this, i dont deny there may be a situation with extra heavy load, which is not representive of the game and that this load may get lowered and "fixes" your problem.

but that does not change the fact that if your cooling cant handle 100% cpu and gpu load then your system is insufficiently cooled.

and please dont list me other games that dont cause you this problem, it will only further proof my point

in any case your first order of doing since you cant magicly improve your cooling would be to cap your framerate, taking load of your components. but this is a backwards approach of solving your problem. (there are many legit reason to cap a framerate though but that is besides the point)

Nope, wrong.

First of all Pc has 1 month life and i got 1 of the best AIO out there.
Also, i have this issue ONLY in this game, no problems during loading in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 or Oblivion Remaster or Khazan or anything else.

It's definately something weird with this game, something I dont understand, i give you that.

you could have a truck radiator on your pc and it would not change that i am right. you may have on paper a great cooling solution. that does not mean or proof to me that it is working in 100% order

[Rj]

Originally posted by Mirona:

Originally posted by Rj:

Nope, wrong.

First of all Pc has 1 month life and i got 1 of the best AIO out there.
Also, i have this issue ONLY in this game, no problems during loading in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 or Oblivion Remaster or Khazan or anything else.

It's definately something weird with this game, something I dont understand, i give you that.

you could have a truck radiator on your pc and it would not change that i am right. you may have on paper a great cooling solution. that does not mean or proof to me that it is working in 100% order

Trust me mate, it works just perfect. AIO has no problems itself at all

[Mirona]

Originally posted by Rj:

Originally posted by Mirona:

you could have a truck radiator on your pc and it would not change that i am right. you may have on paper a great cooling solution. that does not mean or proof to me that it is working in 100% order

Trust me mate, it works just perfect. AIO has no problems itself at all

then download prime and furmark. run them both at the same time and record it. as long as you dont do that i stay on my point that your cooling is insufficient for whatever reason it may be

https://prime95.net/download/

https://geeks3d.com/furmark/

[Rj]

Originally posted by Mirona:

Originally posted by Rj:

Trust me mate, it works just perfect. AIO has no problems itself at all

then download prime and furmark. run them both at the same time and record it. as long as you dont do that i stay on my point that your cooling is insufficient for whatever reason it may be

https://prime95.net/download/

https://geeks3d.com/furmark/

I was gonna do that but then I saw you have barely 2,5 hours in to the game. I dont think you ever entered your first portal during open world map . Do you even know what I'm talking about? :D

[Mirona]

Originally posted by Rj:

Originally posted by Mirona:

then download prime and furmark. run them both at the same time and record it. as long as you dont do that i stay on my point that your cooling is insufficient for whatever reason it may be

https://prime95.net/download/

https://geeks3d.com/furmark/

I was gonna do that but then I saw you have barely 2,5 hours in to the game. I dont think you ever entered your first portal during open world map . Do you even know what I'm talking about? :D

you only further proof that you dont understand what a "load" means. it does not matter what software or how it produces a load. only things that matters is that your components generate a certain heatoutput under certain loads. and whenever anything causes your too high temps it means that your cooling solution cant handle that much of a load.

it does not matter if this game or any other software produces that load. your problem is not what causes the load. your problem is handleing the load

this is a common problem which occurs in the steam forum with almost every game. most of the times its laptop users. but desktops can have the same problems also ofc. its just common that laptops are build with insufficient cooling. look i get it you spend 400 bucks on your shiny aio and hate the idea it cant handle the heat.

fact is your pc apparently gets too hot. thats not the softwares fault.

and i am not saying tht whatever cooling you have is bad. i am saying if you have a heat problem for whatever reason it may be, it cant physically be because of a software. that is just not how pcs works since the dawn of time

and btw the fact that you all report that using a frameratecap solves the problem is a clear indicator that without a framerate cap the load is too heavy for their cooling solutions.

you dont have to believe me. just use a cap and your problems are "gone"

[Rj]

Originally posted by Mirona:

Originally posted by Rj:

I was gonna do that but then I saw you have barely 2,5 hours in to the game. I dont think you ever entered your first portal during open world map . Do you even know what I'm talking about? :D

you only further proof that you dont understand what a "load" means. it does not matter what software or how it produces a load. only things that matters is that your components generate a certain heatoutput under certain loads. and whenever anything causes your too high temps it means that your cooling solution cant handle that much of a load.

it does not matter if this game or any other software produces that load. your problem is not what causes the load. your problem is handleing the load

this is a common problem which occurs in the steam forum with almost every game. most of the times its laptop users. but desktops can have the same problems also ofc. its just common that laptops are build with insufficient cooling. look i get it you spend 400 bucks on your shiny aio and hate the idea it cant handle the heat.

fact is your pc apparently gets too hot. thats not the softwares fault.

and i am not saying tht whatever cooling you have is bad. i am saying if you have a heat problem for whatever reason it may be, it cant physically be because of a software. that is just not how pcs works since the dawn of time

and btw the fact that you all report that using a frameratecap solves the problem is a clear indicator that without a framerate cap the load is too heavy for their cooling solutions.

you dont have to believe me. just use a cap and your problems are "gone"

No buddy, it's only this game, my AIO can handle everything if it's not broken af like this game's loads.
You can keep acting like a professor, I'm ok with that but if something happens only with a specific program or process and everything else is just fine, then well... it's pure mathematic and you jsut need to do 2+2

Capping the frame doesnt solve anything, I have the game capped at 60 fps since minute 1, otherwise it would do 8-900Watts as my Thor says with unlimited fps and I dont want that power consumption, it's a waste for me. 60 fps for single player games are enough to me