Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

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Anyone got the date/time for this to drop? Curiously looking forward to it!
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This is purely a guess, but I would wager next Tuesday (the 22nd) as the likely date for reviews and such. A couple days before the official release, but still the weekend to wait on.

If it helps in the slightest, Mortismal Gaming/Mortym (the YouTube reviewer) has a public Steam profile, and one can see that he has already 100% completed Clair Obscur with a 60-hour playtime. So he's presumably just sitting on his review, waiting for the embargo to lift.
WhiteLezard Apr 17 @ 3:37pm 
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I'm surprised that people still care about reviews.
Originally posted by WhiteLezard:
I'm surprised that people still care about reviews.
Why? If you trust their opinion, it doesn't hurt to hear the perspective of someone else.

Not everyone can go in blind on a game, often because they don't have the money to just buy it straight-up, sight unseen. They want to know - from a source they believe in - that the game in question is worth their time.

I mean, I generally buy what I want regardless, unless it's a painfully clear consensus that the game under-delivered. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate what others have to say about it.
Last edited by StormKnightSera; Apr 17 @ 3:44pm
Originally posted by StormKnightSera:
Originally posted by WhiteLezard:
I'm surprised that people still care about reviews.
Why? If you trust their opinion, it doesn't hurt to hear the perspective of someone else.

Not everyone can go in blind on a game, often because they don't have the money to just buy it straight-up, sight unseen.

That's what the steam refund period and demos are for. Heck, even watching unedited streams is probably a better indication.

Even the reviewers I broadly like for being mostly unbiased and honest (i.e. Skill Up) rarely perfectly align with what I care about in games, I have to digest their reviews (i.e. they complain about it being too hard but I like that or whine about too much reading but I like that etc).



Originally posted by StormKnightSera:
This is purely a guess, but I would wager next Tuesday (the 22nd) as the likely date for reviews and such. A couple days before the official release, but still the weekend to wait on.

If it helps in the slightest, Mortismal Gaming/Mortym (the YouTube reviewer) has a public Steam profile, and one can see that he has already 100% completed Clair Obscur with a 60-hour playtime. So he's presumably just sitting on his review, waiting for the embargo to lift.

Guess we know where the devs got the 60 hour mark for 100%, though eh on Mort since he's been caught cheesing his achievements before and is a terrible reviewer in general with anger issues lmao.
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
Originally posted by StormKnightSera:
Why? If you trust their opinion, it doesn't hurt to hear the perspective of someone else.

Not everyone can go in blind on a game, often because they don't have the money to just buy it straight-up, sight unseen.

That's what the steam refund period and demos are for. Heck, even watching unedited streams is probably a better indication.

Even the reviewers I broadly like for being mostly unbiased and honest (i.e. Skill Up) rarely perfectly align with what I care about in games, I have to digest their reviews (i.e. they complain about it being too hard but I like that or whine about too much reading but I like that etc).



Originally posted by StormKnightSera:
This is purely a guess, but I would wager next Tuesday (the 22nd) as the likely date for reviews and such. A couple days before the official release, but still the weekend to wait on.

If it helps in the slightest, Mortismal Gaming/Mortym (the YouTube reviewer) has a public Steam profile, and one can see that he has already 100% completed Clair Obscur with a 60-hour playtime. So he's presumably just sitting on his review, waiting for the embargo to lift.

Guess we know where the devs got the 60 hour mark for 100%, though eh on Mort since he's been caught cheesing his achievements before and is a terrible reviewer in general with anger issues lmao.
Anger issues..? I've been following his content for years, do tell.
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
Guess we know where the devs got the 60 hour mark for 100%, though eh on Mort since he's been caught cheesing his achievements before and is a terrible reviewer in general with anger issues lmao.
Agree to disagree? *shrugs* Not the place to get into it, really, but I don't agree with you as-to his quality, and have never seen anything regarding his supposed "anger issues" beyond being 100% done with people accusing him of cheating/fudging his achievements. And I'd be pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoyed with that, too, if it continued to hound me needlessly.

But again, if you don't like any particular reviewer and/or do not trust their opinion, then leave it at that and find someone else. Not every game has a demo, not every dollar can be invested into a game you may or may not commit to, and gaming streams can spoil the game for people who want to experience it themselves. There is a space for reviewers to still exist, is my point.
I'm generally interested in reviews based on how well the game runs and if its generally a good game. I'm busy so I don't wanna waste my time with something I'd rather just watch a youtube video about lol
Originally posted by Charlywood:
Originally posted by Nightmarian:

That's what the steam refund period and demos are for. Heck, even watching unedited streams is probably a better indication.

Even the reviewers I broadly like for being mostly unbiased and honest (i.e. Skill Up) rarely perfectly align with what I care about in games, I have to digest their reviews (i.e. they complain about it being too hard but I like that or whine about too much reading but I like that etc).





Guess we know where the devs got the 60 hour mark for 100%, though eh on Mort since he's been caught cheesing his achievements before and is a terrible reviewer in general with anger issues lmao.
Anger issues..? I've been following his content for years, do tell.

You wouldn't see it in his videos, they're all pre-recorded. It's when he talks in his comments, a few times it was to angrily rage at some random dude, usually with a pretty one-sided take on something irrelevant (he blew up on one guy expressing what I thought was a pretty tame opinion about BG3 to someone else) or throw out a shockingly braindead arguments like arguing the viewcount means he's objectively right or something silly. Then after 'winning' the argument, he deletes all the comments and usually leaves a smug reply in the next video about it or something if the person replies.

To be fair, I've only seen him do it twice, but supposedly it happens a lot, and for me it was a pretty insane mask-off moment. Like, Mort comes off as a pretty laid back dude in his videos, but he went full lunatic in the comments to the point that even the brigade was like whoa dude chill.

After the second time, my opinion of him dropped rock-bottom, and went even lower as his takes on games got dumber and dumber. I still watch his videos for the informationals, i.e. coverage on skills, stuff where his opinions really don't matter and aren't relevant, but I'd never take his opinion on what is a good game seriously anymore.

It sucks because I watched him since he barely had 50k subs and liked how he stayed out of drama and kept a level head, but either he's letting his real self slip now that he's bigger or it changed him.



Originally posted by StormKnightSera:
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
Guess we know where the devs got the 60 hour mark for 100%, though eh on Mort since he's been caught cheesing his achievements before and is a terrible reviewer in general with anger issues lmao.
Agree to disagree? *shrugs* Not the place to get into it, really, but I don't agree with you as-to his quality, and have never seen anything regarding his supposed "anger issues" beyond being 100% done with people accusing him of cheating/fudging his achievements. And I'd be pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoyed with that, too, if it continued to hound me needlessly.

But again, if you don't like any particular reviewer and/or do not trust their opinion, then leave it at that and find someone else. Not every game has a demo, not every dollar can be invested into a game you may or may not commit to, and gaming streams can spoil the game for people who want to experience it themselves. There is a space for reviewers to still exist, is my point.

The dude has been caught with achievements he literally could not have gotten normally (either bugged or no way to earn them implemented yet) a few times and you do know they have timestamps, right? It's hella weird when some of his timestamps conveniently say he unlocked the achievement for like an early boss, a random mid-game quest, and an endgame boss all at the same exact instant. That's a classic and ancient sign of someone using a program like VAM.

You can relock achievements with VAM too so it's easy to fix once you're caught, but he was definitely caught.

You can be a parasocial parasite all you want but don't be proud of not using your brain and keeping a fair distance. I used to like him but I don't like what he's become. All the power to you if you still do.

People still like youtubers who have been convicted pedos and so on too, so whatever, this is nothing, I guess.
Last edited by Nightmarian; Apr 17 @ 5:51pm
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
You can be a parasocial parasite all you want but don't be proud of not using your brain and keeping a fair distance. I used to like him but I don't like what he's become. All the power to you if you still do.

People still like youtubers who have been convicted pedos and so on too, so whatever, this is nothing, I guess.
Seems a little harsh to call me a parasite when my only "crime" is, apparently, not knowing enough about the situation. As far as I was/am aware, that was all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and it made Mort angry to constantly have to be confronted with the same crap over and over, which is a pretty relatable thing to do. People come at me spouting the same nonsense time and again, I'd probably snap at them, as well.

Not defending him with this, necessarily, but I've had achievements bug out and pop at weird times, so that doesn't mean much to me.

If there is actual proof that he is cheating or whatever, then...fine, I guess. I'm not putting my head in the sand and ignoring it, I just took him at his word that the allegations were bunk; as I have yet to see any definitive screenshots or the like, I stuck by him.

Edit: Either-way, Mort didn't have anything to do with my initial point about the worthiness of reviews, or even the original question as-to when the reviews will drop. I was using him as anecdotal evidence that they're coming soon, so...yeah. Wasn't looking to go on this tangent.
Last edited by StormKnightSera; Apr 17 @ 6:11pm
All that to say... No there isn't a confirmed review embargo date yet?
PocketYoda Apr 17 @ 9:13pm 
Review Embargo's always make me not pre order, i mean what are they hiding, why are they stopping people talking about their game..

Seems suspect so i never pre order anymore.
Originally posted by StormKnightSera:
This is purely a guess, but I would wager next Tuesday (the 22nd) as the likely date for reviews and such. A couple days before the official release, but still the weekend to wait on.

If it helps in the slightest, Mortismal Gaming/Mortym (the YouTube reviewer) has a public Steam profile, and one can see that he has already 100% completed Clair Obscur with a 60-hour playtime. So he's presumably just sitting on his review, waiting for the embargo to lift.
Sadly i no longer trust that reviewer after Dragonage Veilguard.
Last edited by PocketYoda; Apr 17 @ 9:15pm
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Review Embargo's always make me not pre order, i mean what are they hiding, why are they stopping people talking about their game..

Seems suspect so i never pre order anymore.
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Sadly i no longer trust that reviewer after Dragonage Veilguard.
Review Embargoes have been a thing for a long time. It's not even a "we're hiding behind the embargo" thing, really, but just another business practice. I mean, Sandfall is still dropping trailers as-of yesterday; nobody would bother to look at them if they could just beeline for the reviews and plot summaries and Let's Plays instead. The Embargo also gives every reviewer/outlet an equal chance to get through the game and form their opinion of it; as in, it won't be a "first done first published" race for attention and views.

As for Mort...your opinion of him is irrelevant to my original point of bringing him up, which was "patience, the reviews are almost here."

Although, to go further down the rabbit hole: he liked Dragon Age, so now he's untrustworthy? Some of us enjoyed Veilguard; it's not an impossibility. You can knock his taste, I guess, but unless you're calling him out as being paid for by Bioware or whomever, his trustworthiness shouldn't have gone anywhere because of one review you don't agree with.
Last edited by StormKnightSera; Apr 18 @ 6:33am
Dreakon13 Apr 18 @ 6:36am 
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
Even the reviewers I broadly like for being mostly unbiased and honest (i.e. Skill Up) rarely perfectly align with what I care about in games, I have to digest their reviews (i.e. they complain about it being too hard but I like that or whine about too much reading but I like that etc).
Avoiding reviews because they don't perfectly align with your views is almost as naive and closed-minded as treating any particular reviewer as the gospel, as many people do in this age of social media and influencers.

It's not really about taking anyones word for it, or at least it shouldn't be. All reviews are subjective. It's about learning a little more about the game. If it's hard or if there's a lot of reading, that's interesting information regardless of the reviewers feelings about it.

It's also a particularly useful ability in life and to being truly educated about anything, to be able to process peoples opinions outside of the lens of your own. Doesn't mean they're right or you agree with them, but there's value in hearing outside perspectives.

And for me, it's just pure entertainment to watch/read about something I'm interested in.
Last edited by Dreakon13; Apr 18 @ 6:57am
Originally posted by StormKnightSera:
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Review Embargo's always make me not pre order, i mean what are they hiding, why are they stopping people talking about their game..

Seems suspect so i never pre order anymore.
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Sadly i no longer trust that reviewer after Dragonage Veilguard.
Review Embargoes have been a thing for a long time. It's not even a "we're hiding behind the embargo" thing, really, but just another business practice. I mean, Sandfall is still dropping trailers as-of yesterday; nobody would bother to look at them if they could just beeline for the reviews and plot summaries and Let's Plays instead. The Embargo also gives every reviewer/outlet an equal chance to get through the game and form their opinion of it; as in, it won't be a "first done first published" race for attention and views.

As for Mort...your opinion of him is irrelevant to my original point of bringing him up, which was "patience, the reviews are almost here."

Although, to go further down the rabbit hole: he liked Dragon Age, so now he's untrustworthy? Some of us enjoyed Veilguard; it's not an impossibility. You can knock his taste, I guess, but unless you're calling him out as being paid for by Bioware or whomever, his trustworthiness shouldn't have gone anywhere because of one review you don't agree with.
Of course he was paid by Bioware.
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Of course he was paid by Bioware.
Are you in a position to share evidence to support your claim, or was the "of course" supposed to convince me?

Not trying to be a ♥♥♥♥♥ about it, but generally there is the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing to consider, at least here in the US (supposedly; we'll see how long it lasts).
Last edited by StormKnightSera; Apr 18 @ 6:42am
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