Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

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Leziropav 29 AGO 2024 a las 10:27 p. m.
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does it contains DEI agenda?
also does game just being focused on narrative ? after killing final boss then post-credit and tada its just finished ?
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PHARA 3 FEB a las 5:55 a. m. 
3 females, 1 male, 1 monkey. Not sure Tate Chads can handle so much DEI.
Última edición por PHARA; 3 FEB a las 6:01 a. m.
MetallicaR8 3 FEB a las 6:22 a. m. 
OMG 2 more females than one male!! What are we going to do?? We are lost...
Axelhander 3 FEB a las 9:05 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Axelhander:
DEI agendas are stupid.

This reactionary paranoia to them is equally stupid.
I keep tapping the damn sign and y'all keep arguing with each either with what are fundamentally the same argument and the same misunderstanding of the true underlying issues.

But whatevs. Game is probably going to rock.
樹皮 4 FEB a las 9:03 p. m. 
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The real questions we should be asking are things like 'does it have microtransactions' or 'were the devs forced to crunch to get it out' or- and just bear with me -'is the game actually GOOD'

Y'all aren't new to games, I'm sure most of you have been around to see the sheer corporate greed that's befallen so many game companies these days. Mass layoffs, crazy CEO bonuses, workplace harassment. But yes, the true enemy is DEI. Keep fighting the good fight against the wokies. That'll fix everything, I'm sure. Worked so well last time.

This is a new, non-corporate studio choosing to throw their hat in the ring, and what they've shown so far is promising in my opinion. My only real concern is whether they deliver on that promise.
PHARA 5 FEB a las 4:26 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por 樹皮:
The real questions we should be asking are things like 'does it have microtransactions' or 'were the devs forced to crunch to get it out' or- and just bear with me -'is the game actually GOOD'

Y'all aren't new to games, I'm sure most of you have been around to see the sheer corporate greed that's befallen so many game companies these days. Mass layoffs, crazy CEO bonuses, workplace harassment. But yes, the true enemy is DEI. Keep fighting the good fight against the wokies. That'll fix everything, I'm sure. Worked so well last time.

This is a new, non-corporate studio choosing to throw their hat in the ring, and what they've shown so far is promising in my opinion. My only real concern is whether they deliver on that promise.

Serious discussions about gaming are supplanted by points farming trolls. i don't even know if i can call them gamers.

i loved SANDFALL xbox show. Turn based lovers leave UBI to build their dream game.
i really felt a lot of passion when they talked about their game.
A bit of freshness and risk-taking by a small team compared to what big studios can offer.
Whitebleidd 5 FEB a las 4:47 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por 樹皮:
The real questions we should be asking are things like 'does it have microtransactions' or 'were the devs forced to crunch to get it out' or- and just bear with me -'is the game actually GOOD'

Y'all aren't new to games, I'm sure most of you have been around to see the sheer corporate greed that's befallen so many game companies these days. Mass layoffs, crazy CEO bonuses, workplace harassment. But yes, the true enemy is DEI. Keep fighting the good fight against the wokies. That'll fix everything, I'm sure. Worked so well last time.
Quite simply, why not both? Or more, I’m sure ppl can be worried about multiple things at a time, though priorities will vary per person… and I mean the 1st half of your post since microtransactions are indeed a huge issue, the latter idgaf, especially nowadays, that said can you imagine if every time I was going to purchase anything I had to on a deep dive into the state of the workplace of the company making the product? None of the things you mentioned are unique to the gaming industry anyways, and considering todays victim mentality, DEI, ESG, I take some of those claims with scepticism.

Publicado originalmente por 樹皮:
This is a new, non-corporate studio choosing to throw their hat in the ring, and what they've shown so far is promising in my opinion. My only real concern is whether they deliver on that promise.
That remains to be seen, and considering the talks of this game getting some live action movie slop when it’s not even out, doesn’t inspire confidence.
Lutrian 5 FEB a las 12:07 p. m. 
I turned black when I watched the trailer, so yes.
XianE 5 FEB a las 2:34 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Whitebleidd:
Publicado originalmente por 樹皮:
The real questions we should be asking are things like 'does it have microtransactions' or 'were the devs forced to crunch to get it out' or- and just bear with me -'is the game actually GOOD'

Y'all aren't new to games, I'm sure most of you have been around to see the sheer corporate greed that's befallen so many game companies these days. Mass layoffs, crazy CEO bonuses, workplace harassment. But yes, the true enemy is DEI. Keep fighting the good fight against the wokies. That'll fix everything, I'm sure. Worked so well last time.

Quite simply, why not both? Or more, I’m sure ppl can be worried about multiple things at a time, though priorities will vary per person… and I mean the 1st half of your post since microtransactions are indeed a huge issue, the latter idgaf, especially nowadays, that said can you imagine if every time I was going to purchase anything I had to on a deep dive into the state of the workplace of the company making the product? None of the things you mentioned are unique to the gaming industry anyways, and considering todays victim mentality, DEI, ESG, I take some of those claims with scepticism.

Um no, because only disgusting bigots, racists, sexists, etc give a ♥♥♥♥ about one thing that is invalid to start with; while the points that 樹皮 brought up are absolutely objectively & morally/ethically valid. Its so funny to see anyone on your side of things trying to raise up "victim mentality" given that you act like you're victims of society evolving to include EVERYONE; and how dare arts & society portray anything other than your type. Like no, your angle is complete garbage rooted in nothing but bigotry.
Última edición por XianE; 5 FEB a las 2:35 p. m.
Whitebleidd 5 FEB a las 4:08 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por XianE:
Publicado originalmente por Whitebleidd:

Quite simply, why not both? Or more, I’m sure ppl can be worried about multiple things at a time, though priorities will vary per person… and I mean the 1st half of your post since microtransactions are indeed a huge issue, the latter idgaf, especially nowadays, that said can you imagine if every time I was going to purchase anything I had to on a deep dive into the state of the workplace of the company making the product? None of the things you mentioned are unique to the gaming industry anyways, and considering todays victim mentality, DEI, ESG, I take some of those claims with scepticism.

Um no, because only disgusting bigots, racists, sexists, etc give a ♥♥♥♥ about one thing that is invalid to start with; while the points that 樹皮 brought up are absolutely objectively & morally/ethically valid. Its so funny to see anyone on your side of things trying to raise up "victim mentality" given that you act like you're victims of society evolving to include EVERYONE; and how dare arts & society portray anything other than your type. Like no, your angle is complete garbage rooted in nothing but bigotry.
Meh, all the –isms don’t have power nowadays, especially since a black dude would probably be called “racist” for having the opinion that both main characters in AC: Shadows should have been Japanese.

1st of all, there is no monolithic consensus on what society “evolving” entails, 2nd there has been “representation” for decades, back in the day not all games had to have it, some did, some didn’t, what we have now is overrepresentation.
XianE 5 FEB a las 6:12 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Whitebleidd:
Meh, all the –isms don’t have power nowadays, especially since a black dude would probably be called “racist” for having the opinion that both main characters in AC: Shadows should have been Japanese.

1st of all, there is no monolithic consensus on what society “evolving” entails, 2nd there has been “representation” for decades, back in the day not all games had to have it, some did, some didn’t, what we have now is overrepresentation.

Um wrong, they very much still do carry weight just maybe not within your bunch. Also yeah, that scenario would be sus given that Yasuke is an actual historical figure and that there is a Japanese character in Naoe. But y'know I'm sure any Black character would be an issue for you.

1. Actually there is, when a majority of society has moved to acceptance of a group and concepts, then its evolved. Society has moved into a stage where LGBT+ is mostly accepted; where femmes are respected & treated as very much able to be badass w/o needing sexualization and certain sexist things once done are moved away from; where PoC are treated as one of many default types not a sliding scale of tanned white to pale white.

2. There actually hasn't and you saying that there has shows your own ignorance on the subject. There's a handful of games that can be pointed to as having representation at any given time, meanwhile there's handfuls of white cis-hetero games that have them yet no one complains. Its always so damn rich when some ignorant moron tries to say how there's "overrepresentation" or rather too much rep for everyone else. I for one think white cis-hetero is "overrepresented" especially as it no longer reflects the world we live in. Also that bigots have no say in how art should be done.
Whitebleidd 5 FEB a las 6:15 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por XianE:
Um wrong, they very much still do carry weight just maybe not within your bunch. Also yeah, that scenario would be sus given that Yasuke is an actual historical figure and that there is a Japanese character in Naoe. But y'know I'm sure any Black character would be an issue for you.
Let’s hope you are singing the same tune if we get an AC in central Africa and they make the main character a white dude.
XianE 5 FEB a las 6:25 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Whitebleidd:
Let’s hope you are singing the same tune if we get an AC in central Africa and they make the main character a white dude.

Once again showing that ignorance. Whites haven't at all been discriminated against or had a small amount of representation in media; PoC of all kinds HAVE. That's the difference that you're ignoring. That being said if said white guy was a historical figure and paired with a Black character, then I'd at least be neutral to it.
Whitebleidd 5 FEB a las 6:54 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por XianE:
Once again showing that ignorance. Whites haven't at all been discriminated against or had a small amount of representation in media; PoC of all kinds HAVE. That's the difference that you're ignoring. That being said if said white guy was a historical figure and paired with a Black character, then I'd at least be neutral to it.
I am thankful every day I am not insecure enough to need “representation” and if there is representation, I would hope it comes from a genuine place, not through DEI, ESG initiatives, reason representation coming from progressive sources has lost almost all value imo.

In the AC franchise, the protagonist that would most closely “represent” me would be Connor from AC3, I thought he was a great character, stoic, and with a lot of character growth thorough the game, plus it felt genuine, back when it felt like Ubi was still somewhat interested in telling stories and improving their games instead of checking boxes, hell that was the last game that had the proper modern day storyline before they messed things up.

The fact cringe terms like PoC, or slurs like Latinx exist are more reasons that highlight how performative the “representation” is, the internet is the internet, can’t do much about it, but I would definitely not allow some1 to call me “PoC” irl.

Technology is getting better and information/education more accessible, good indie games can be made by smaller teams, hopefully in the coming years all this performative stuff can end and genuine projects from countries considered “minorities” in the US can start making games and we can have “representation” through new projects, instead of having to rely on race swapping existing characters from “white” lore and stop forcing “white” devs to create material to “represent”.
DmonHiro 5 FEB a las 11:31 p. m. 
I mean, your mission is to go beat up a woman, so I guess not.
LateNightD'Light 6 FEB a las 11:22 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por XianE:
Publicado originalmente por Whitebleidd:

Quite simply, why not both? Or more, I’m sure ppl can be worried about multiple things at a time, though priorities will vary per person… and I mean the 1st half of your post since microtransactions are indeed a huge issue, the latter idgaf, especially nowadays, that said can you imagine if every time I was going to purchase anything I had to on a deep dive into the state of the workplace of the company making the product? None of the things you mentioned are unique to the gaming industry anyways, and considering todays victim mentality, DEI, ESG, I take some of those claims with scepticism.

Um no, because only disgusting bigots, racists, sexists, etc give a ♥♥♥♥ about one thing that is invalid to start with; while the points that 樹皮 brought up are absolutely objectively & morally/ethically valid. Its so funny to see anyone on your side of things trying to raise up "victim mentality" given that you act like you're victims of society evolving to include EVERYONE; and how dare arts & society portray anything other than your type. Like no, your angle is complete garbage rooted in nothing but bigotry.
You dont agree with this person and they write an insane rant calling you names...that will definitely change minds, lol
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