Finite resources

[mouse223]

Right now in the games current state no matter what, your game is over after your second winter. I managed to build a massive fortress encampment. Had primary and secondary walls ( that don't count as defense ) Villagers were doing fine although their AI had them doing mostly nothing. The real drag though is after clear cutting the forests and striping the iron mine that's it game over. Mines do not regenerate ore ever forests do not grow back. Every one of your items decay all your buildings decay and you have no resources to replace them with. GAME OVER. perpetual growth is not in the game atm. It's Easter Island out there

[Kosevich]

Theoretical you can use marketplace to transfer resources from other parts of island.

[mouse223]

Originally posted by Kosevich:

Theoretical you can use marketplace to transfer resources from other parts of island.

The demand of needed resources will outstrip anything a marketplace can provide

[Cookie Dough Dip]

Establishing outposts on other parts of the island that also want to be sustained and run just to have them starve of resources aswell sounds like a lot of fun.

How about things just dont run out and your village can actually sustain itself?
This is the only reason I am not in game right now enjoying myself. It is Bellwright all over again.

[Danyel]

Indeed is a pretty big oversight, not sure what the devs were thinking with some of these mechanics.

[Okuda]

So all the ressources on the map are not respawning?

[mouse223]

Originally posted by Okuda:

So all the ressources on the map are not respawning?

correct other than the cabbage berries carrots and other ground foods that change with the seasons. As soon as you use a major resource its gone for good. Even the stones you use to summon villagers. Eventually you have no way to summon more villagers. The biggest drag is the demand for iron though. The later stages of construction takes nails that takes iron and you run out of iron very fast

[Okuda]

Originally posted by mouse223:

Originally posted by Okuda:

So all the ressources on the map are not respawning?

correct other than the cabbage berries carrots and other ground foods that change with the seasons. As soon as you use a major resource its gone for good. Even the stones you use to summon villagers. Eventually you have no way to summon more villagers. The biggest drag is the demand for iron though. The later stages of construction takes nails that takes iron and you run out of iron very fast

Thats a bummer. Thanks for the reply! I will wait for a patch then..

[Lucifer]

Originally posted by mouse223:

Originally posted by Okuda:

So all the ressources on the map are not respawning?

correct other than the cabbage berries carrots and other ground foods that change with the seasons. As soon as you use a major resource its gone for good. Even the stones you use to summon villagers. Eventually you have no way to summon more villagers. The biggest drag is the demand for iron though. The later stages of construction takes nails that takes iron and you run out of iron very fast

Technically, you can get renewable jotun blood from the wights, skeletons, and draugr either during blood moons or at the boss locations but it is not a reliable source as they don’t always drop it. Same with metal scraps.

It’s wood and stone that will be the major issue but I thought trees regrew a few years… young firs became firs and some of the un targetable landscape flora became young fir trees… could have sworn there were young firs popping in areas where they weren’t already. And stone should be infinite in caves…

[Lucifer]

Originally posted by Cookie Dough Dip:

It is Bellwright all over again.

Was actually interested in that game as well… they have finite resources?

[Cookie Dough Dip]

Originally posted by Lucifer:

Originally posted by Cookie Dough Dip:

It is Bellwright all over again.

Was actually interested in that game as well… they have finite resources?

They recently introduced the ability to replant trees that will mature over time but to my knowledge stone and ores are currently finite in Bellwright

[Cookie Dough Dip]

Generally I find the idea of a self sustaining village as in Aska and Bellwright very interesting. Both games introduce repair and maintenance costs to tools and buildings but also both games spark controversy about how well a village can sustain itself.
Either people run into a hard wall because resources are strictly gone or the player will have to keep establishing (sometimes involving micromanagement) new sources via outpost or trading.
In my opinion this goes against the idea of a village that will sustain and run itself once things are set up propperly.

[Kalech]

Considering how early this game is in development, this is 100% going to be something that will be tweaked. We're still in pre-first-patch mode after all.

[=яενєηąŋŧ=]

Stone and Metal are semi-sustainable from raids. Every Blood Moon you get ~1 metal and ~3-4 Large Stones, depending on how many Draugr show up (I think these get harder over time, as well), every 3 days. The Winter Invasion gives ~5-10 Iron and... LOTS of Stone, lol. It's more than enough to keep up with maintenance costs, for the most part. You can additionally farm Draugrs forever if you find a Draugr camps and *don't* spawn & kill the boss, as that seems to deactivate the camp and the boss spawner doesn't seem to grow back.

Normal trees do regrow eventually, but slowly. You just need to make sure you aren't harvesting the saplings that spawn in spring/summer for sticks, they eventually grow into Young Firs and so on if left alone.

Only thing that doesn't seem to have a renewable source is Hardwood, as I haven't seen any Birch saplings anywhere, just Fir, and the Birch also don't seem to have a Young stage. Also, possibly Thatch, since I have never seen any of that respawn, though others have, so idk if my game's just bugged.

[Kryten]

Originally posted by Cookie Dough Dip:

Originally posted by Lucifer:

Was actually interested in that game as well… they have finite resources?

They recently introduced the ability to replant trees that will mature over time but to my knowledge stone and ores are currently finite in Bellwright

They also made T3 miners being able to mine depleted ore spots now, that was one of the latest preview branch updates...haven't tried it though, not that far yet.

[Cookie Dough Dip]

Originally posted by Kryten:

Originally posted by Cookie Dough Dip:

They recently introduced the ability to replant trees that will mature over time but to my knowledge stone and ores are currently finite in Bellwright

They also made T3 miners being able to mine depleted ore spots now, that was one of the latest preview branch updates...haven't tried it though, not that far yet.

Thank you for letting me know, I need to check that out.