How do i duplicate a brick i have already placed?

[TIGGER]

Stuck building the bridge to rescue gramps, says i can duplicate a brick i have already placed by holding shift, how does it work?

[Xcalibr8]

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Ok. interresting. hmm..
will check further if I can find anything. can you maybe share me a short video-clip of the problem? you can upload one i.e. to veed.io or youtube and share a link :)

I will try.

[joridiculous]

Doesn't work at all with controller. Tutorial says you have to hod LB before grabbing, then grab. Nothing happens in tutorial or in level. And yes the two "squares" are on

[Fürst Finster]

"Tutorial says you have to hod LB before grabbing, then grab" > then move while still holding. grabbing alone wiill not do anything. :)
but I bet you also did that. :)

[StabbedByIce]

Bad controls, you could have used another key like CTRL to make the duplicate bricks, the controls are "too simple" in a bad way.

[Xcalibr8]

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"Tutorial says you have to hod LB before grabbing, then grab" > then move while still holding. grabbing alone wiill not do anything. :)
but I bet you also did that. :)

Not according to my screenshot, the tutorial states: "Hold 'Shift' before selecting and moving a brick to duplicate it"
Unless there was an update to the demo after I DL'd it but before I installed and ran it.

[Fürst Finster]

holding left mouse button down = selecting = grabbing
"Hold 'Shift' before selecting and moving a brick to duplicate it" - so grabbing (or selecting) a brick alone does nothing. you still have to move the mouse a lil bit to clone. :)

[Xcalibr8]

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"Tutorial says you have to hod LB before grabbing, then grab" > then move while still holding. grabbing alone wiill not do anything. :)
but I bet you also did that. :)

You would this I would have, considering that would have been more thorough, doing things the opposite of what it tells you. lol
I did just try holding the LMB on the brick prior to hitting Shift and it doesn't show the double-boxes icon, only move and it only moves the tile. So still no duplication.

[Fürst Finster]

ok ok.. lets try to figure this out :)

Hold Mouse down over a Brick > then press and hold shift to lock the y axis so you can move a brick only on a plane and prevent vertical movement (no clone!)

Hold Shift down > then hold mouse down over a brick (squares are there) > then move the brick to clone. (after clone you should have the new brick and automatically be in the same mode as explained above - vertical move locked - until you release Shift)
(But this is the one thats not working on your end)

[Xcalibr8]

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Ok. interresting. hmm..
will check further if I can find anything. can you maybe share me a short video-clip of the problem? you can upload one i.e. to veed.io or youtube and share a link :)

Here's the video
https://www.veed.io/view/d1be46d0-f43f-4ea6-ba57-15519a1bef32/showcase

Edit: This was using the Hold Shift then click and drag method described in the tutorial.

[Fürst Finster]

Ok. Few things here.
- You are actually not playing the newest version of the game. Do you play the demo still? :)
- Since the demo we improved the visibility of the squares (to only show when duplicate is REALLY possible). Because - like in your video - you CAN'T duplicate a brick that is still in the Palette (where the number is beside) - but in the demo the squares are still there which is definitely confusing.. sorry for that.
- In your video the second time you tried to duplicate it actually worked as intended. :)

[SuperDean]

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Ok. Few things here.
- You are actually not playing the newest version of the game. Do you play the demo still? :)
- Since the demo we improved the visibility of the squares (to only show when duplicate is REALLY possible). Because - like in your video - you CAN'T duplicate a brick that is still in the Palette (where the number is beside) - but in the demo the squares are still there which is definitely confusing.. sorry for that.
- In your video the second time you tried to duplicate it actually worked as intended. :)

looks like you have to update the demo?

[Fürst Finster]

Yeah. looks like. :)
The functionality of cloning is the same. just the 2 squares indicating it are better now.
I'll have a talk if we can update the demo with the newest stuff.

[Blyatman]

Props to you Dev, legit out here trying to help.

[Xcalibr8]

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Ok. Few things here.
- You are actually not playing the newest version of the game. Do you play the demo still? :)
- Since the demo we improved the visibility of the squares (to only show when duplicate is REALLY possible). Because - like in your video - you CAN'T duplicate a brick that is still in the Palette (where the number is beside) - but in the demo the squares are still there which is definitely confusing.. sorry for that.
- In your video the second time you tried to duplicate it actually worked as intended. :)

Edit: Yes, this is on the Demo. :)

Actually, on the second instance where you said it copied, it didn't. If you watch the counter on the stack, it actually goes down. I originally though the same thing as you when it first happened. :D

And to echo Mantup, a big thank you to coming on here and interacting with us and trying to help. <thumpsup>

Fortunately, I've made it through the Demo without the inability to duplicate negatively impacting completion, just confusing since if one doesn't think to try to complete the build without duplicating you'll think you're stuck.

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You pulled the first brick out of the palette (counter was 4 and went down to 3).
Then you actually duplicated the brick you previously pulled out (+ counter on palette went from 3 to 2). The clone feature does not give you more bricks - it only lowers cursor travel time since you dont have to pull each brick out of the palette (where the counter is placed next to it) one-by-one but instead you can "virutally use every already placed brick as sort of a palette" by cloning it - thus reducing the actual amount of available bricks of course.
Thats also the reason why you cant clone out of the palette initially - because it makes no sense - just grab the brick - its in the palette anyway. + Thats also the reason why you can only duplicate if there are bricks left in the palette. :)

Summary: Cloning does not mean you get more bricks than initially stated - it just increases build speed by reducing cursor travel time. this is even more valuable on Controller. :)