Wood problem

[Kronos_Baggins]

I've just started the game and I already love it, but the lack of wood is almost making me cry. Of course I didn't expect to be able to build everything at once, but this is really slowing things down unnecessarily.

I was able to make the 3 soil plots since I grabbed every piece of wood even before I got the quest. Then I needed 10 wood for a desk, it took me a whole week with three days that didn't have a single log on the farm or in the woods. Now I need another 10 wood to repair the mine and again there's no wood in sight. The tiny trees show an axe symbol when I walk close ot them, am I supposed to be able to chop them with my starter axe? And if yes, how?

[zuntan2002]

Easiest is to go fishing. Sell fish to Bruno till he has Tuna available. Buy Tuna from Bruno and Flour from Lina. Take them home and cook Fish Fingers. Sell the Fish Fingers at the Diner and buy Gold from Francis. Take the Gold to Natasha and get a Gold Axe. Rinse, repeat till you don't ever again need to cook a Fish Finger. Typical for me is to buy 200 Flour and 200 Tuna any day Lina or Bruno is open, Cooking 200 Fish Fingers whenever I have 200 of both. Generally I stop when I hit a million. Buying the ingredients one day and selling Fish Fingers the next while running a daily foraging loop that covers the Beaches and Woods (and later the Mountains as well) makes it rather efficient to become obscenely wealthy.

At this point the problem becomes sustainable harvesting. Harvest only one tree a day from the Woods until all the trees have spawned. (Neither the Farm, Woods or Mountains begin with as many trees as the will eventually have if left alone.) Once all the trees have spawned the Woods will respawn fast enough to stand up to taking two trees a day. The Farm calls for being circumspect. You want to make an effort to have at least one maple tree in the South Pasture to tap for Maple Syrup just so you can make Pancakes to complete the cooking achievement. Otherwise just resist over cutting the farm. Eventually you'll have to clear most of the West Pasture for a Hay Field and most of the Central Pasture for a large Garden Plot (and later a Greenhouse and even later the East end of the South Pasture for another smaller Greenhouse). Together this represents a substantial influx of wood. By the time you repair the Bridge and make the Mountains available as a source of wood mining will become of more interest than wood. Oh ... it is very tempting to fill every request from Parker for Wood ... ignore them all, otherwise you'll never have enough wood. Parker is relatively easy to max out Hearts by just talking to him daily.

[Kronos_Baggins]

Originally posted by zuntan2002:

Easiest is to go fishing. Sell fish to Bruno till he has Tuna available. Buy Tuna from Bruno and Flour from Lina. Take them home and cook Fish Fingers. Sell the Fish Fingers at the Diner and buy Gold from Francis. Take the Gold to Natasha and get a Gold Axe. Rinse, repeat till you don't ever again need to cook a Fish Finger. Typical for me is to buy 200 Flour and 200 Tuna any day Lina or Bruno is open, Cooking 200 Fish Fingers whenever I have 200 of both. Generally I stop when I hit a million. Buying the ingredients one day and selling Fish Fingers the next while running a daily foraging loop that covers the Beaches and Woods (and later the Mountains as well) makes it rather efficient to become obscenely wealthy.

At this point the problem becomes sustainable harvesting. Harvest only one tree a day from the Woods until all the trees have spawned. (Neither the Farm, Woods or Mountains begin with as many trees as the will eventually have if left alone.) Once all the trees have spawned the Woods will respawn fast enough to stand up to taking two trees a day. The Farm calls for being circumspect. You want to make an effort to have at least one maple tree in the South Pasture to tap for Maple Syrup just so you can make Pancakes to complete the cooking achievement. Otherwise just resist over cutting the farm. Eventually you'll have to clear most of the West Pasture for a Hay Field and most of the Central Pasture for a large Garden Plot (and later a Greenhouse and even later the East end of the South Pasture for another smaller Greenhouse). Together this represents a substantial influx of wood. By the time you repair the Bridge and make the Mountains available as a source of wood mining will become of more interest than wood. Oh ... it is very tempting to fill every request from Parker for Wood ... ignore them all, otherwise you'll never have enough wood. Parker is relatively easy to max out Hearts by just talking to him daily.

Thank you for the long reply! I noticed the "embargo fish fingers" thing in the settings, but haven't sold any yet.

I'll do what you have described since that seems the best way to get anywhere, but isn't the game a bit unbalanced if you're practically forced to be a fish finger millionaire and simply buy stuff?

[zuntan2002]

I'm inclined to agree. It felt wrong to be buying flour and tuna and cooking/selling 200 fish fingers four times a week. In one game I resolved I won't buy Tuna, I'll just fish up all the fish I need to make fish fingers for sale. That is very time consuming. Just catching enough fish to meet daily expenses took too much time and got to be a bore, and as much as I like fishing in RPGs that was a bit much for me.

On the other side of the coin is that it was VERY refreshing that for once, after playing endless RPGs, since the mid-1980s, that finally I was in an RPG that broke the mold. Every RPG I've ever played all share a couple of things. You start out broke, making money is hard, you need a lot, and by the time money starts rolling in there's nothing left to spend it on. I've paid my dues in so many games, It was nice that for once there was a mechanism that permitted making money from the start and all that was needed was a fishing pole and a stove to get the ball rolling.

Taking concerns out of making money was such a relief, allowing me to focus on the rest of the game and just making it all more enjoyable. I've played many RPGs but none were anywhere close to being as pleasant an experience as Wylde Flowers.

Wylde Flowers has many challenges. There is hardly an item in the game that can be gathered or crafted that doesn't have some use, a use the crops up again and again, they all can be sold to generate income, and they are all in limited in supply (except for metals). Making one easy (money) is not giving up much in the greater scheme of things. It just feels weird because no other game (that I've played) does it.

There are two things about Wylde Flowers that greatly enhance its enjoyment. The first is that from the start one's inventory is unlimited and the second is (if one chooses to accept it) making money is both easy and quick. Yes, if feels wrong, just accept it and enjoy the game.

[twistedoldloony]

Yep I will never embargo fish stix!!! I was THRILLED when I realized that you could actually MAKE MONEY EASY! It's funny because it made me feel smart when I noticed that you could buy fish and flour to make them!! I too was amazed when I realized that it wouldn't have to be a grind to get cash!!