Rift apart before Original trilogy

[DrLegit]

It seems a shame that Rift Apart doesnt seem to have sold as many would have hoped but im not sure what Sony was expecting without first introducing a whole new audience (PC players) to the original trilogy or even the future trilogy. The first R&C they Have introduced PC players to is the first game to not make Ratchet and Clank the sole main characters in their own series.

[easy_going]

It didn't sell enough? How badly did it sell?

[DrLegit]

Originally posted by easy_going:

It didn't sell enough? How badly did it sell?

with an all time peak of less than 10k and current players floating between 1k-500 players its safe to assume it didnt break more than a couple of hundred thousand sales at most (steamdb estimates ~100k-300k)

[GAMING_Alligator]

Meh, Rivet is awesome so I don't care about them not being the only main characters.

As someone new to the series, I do feel like some references are lost on me, but I figured most of the backstory out just by playing the game.

The only problem now is I want more and there is no more on the PC!

[DrLegit]

Originally posted by GAMING_Alligator:

Meh, Rivet is awesome so I don't care about them not being the only main characters.

As someone new to the series, I do feel like some references are lost on me, but I figured most of the backstory out just by playing the game.

The only problem now is I want more and there is no more on the PC!

i assume you do care if more R&C comes to pc which this situation directly affects

[GAMING_Alligator]

Originally posted by LaMDA 9000:

Originally posted by GAMING_Alligator:

Meh, Rivet is awesome so I don't care about them not being the only main characters.

As someone new to the series, I do feel like some references are lost on me, but I figured most of the backstory out just by playing the game.

The only problem now is I want more and there is no more on the PC!

i assume you do care if more R&C comes to pc which this situation directly affects

Fair point!

Although it's a port, so the resources that went into developing it won't have been anywhere near what it took to build the original. I hope selling a few 100k units will be profitable enough to let them consider bringing other games in the franchise to PC.

[DrLegit]

Originally posted by GAMING_Alligator:

Originally posted by LaMDA 9000:

i assume you do care if more R&C comes to pc which this situation directly affects

Fair point!

Although it's a port, so the resources that went into developing it won't have been anywhere near what it took to build the original. I suspect selling a few 100k units will be profitable enough to let them consider bringing other games in the franchise to PC.

Im hoping so to, its just a shame it could have been prepared for better

[Acquire]

Ratchet is a very Playstation specific title in terms of popularity. If you weren't already a Playstation gamer you might not even know about the series or know very little. I've played every game in the series, including spin offs, so I was awaiting this on the PC, but no one else I know that wasn't already a Playstation gamer had much interest in it despite me thinking they'd probably enjoy it.

Also, waiting so long to release it on the PC. The game is good, but maybe not double dip good enough.

It would be awesome to see a remaster of the rest come to PC, but I doubt those would sell much too.

[DrLegit]

Originally posted by Acquire:

Ratchet is a very Playstation specific title in terms of popularity. If you weren't already a Playstation gamer you might not even know about the series or know very little. I've played every game in the series, including spin offs, so I was awaiting this on the PC, but no one else I know that wasn't already a Playstation gamer had much interest in it despite me thinking they'd probably enjoy it.

Also, waiting so long to release it on the PC. The game is good, but maybe not double dip good enough.

It would be awesome to see a remaster of the rest come to PC, but I doubt those would sell much too.

The same could have been said for spyro and less so crash but both have done very well on pc

[Doktor Mandrake]

Originally posted by LaMDA 9000:

Originally posted by Acquire:

Ratchet is a very Playstation specific title in terms of popularity. If you weren't already a Playstation gamer you might not even know about the series or know very little. I've played every game in the series, including spin offs, so I was awaiting this on the PC, but no one else I know that wasn't already a Playstation gamer had much interest in it despite me thinking they'd probably enjoy it.

Also, waiting so long to release it on the PC. The game is good, but maybe not double dip good enough.

It would be awesome to see a remaster of the rest come to PC, but I doubt those would sell much too.

The same could have been said for spyro and less so crash but both have done very well on pc

Crash bandicoot had an all-time peak of 3,742 players

Spyro had 3,561 all-time peak

Spyro also went on a heavy discount on hunblebundle about a month after it came out

[DrLegit]

Originally posted by Doktor Mandrake:

Originally posted by LaMDA 9000:

The same could have been said for spyro and less so crash but both have done very well on pc

Crash bandicoot had an all-time peak of 3,742 players

Spyro had 3,561 all-time peak

Spyro also went on a heavy discount on hunblebundle about a month after it came out

But a much greater ownership amount

[Doktor Mandrake]

Originally posted by LaMDA 9000:

Originally posted by Doktor Mandrake:

Crash bandicoot had an all-time peak of 3,742 players

Spyro had 3,561 all-time peak

Spyro also went on a heavy discount on hunblebundle about a month after it came out

But a much greater ownership amount

I mean these things aren't a good way to assume if it's been profitable or not

For one, people with private accounts don't show up on steamcharts.. neither do the people who buy games and don't play them (these people do exist)

Neither do we know sonys bottom line when it comes to ports.. how much did it make to cost? What was their exact return in money value, not steamchart? These are unknown

[Acquire]

Originally posted by LaMDA 9000:

Originally posted by Acquire:

Ratchet is a very Playstation specific title in terms of popularity. If you weren't already a Playstation gamer you might not even know about the series or know very little. I've played every game in the series, including spin offs, so I was awaiting this on the PC, but no one else I know that wasn't already a Playstation gamer had much interest in it despite me thinking they'd probably enjoy it.

Also, waiting so long to release it on the PC. The game is good, but maybe not double dip good enough.

It would be awesome to see a remaster of the rest come to PC, but I doubt those would sell much too.

The same could have been said for spyro and less so crash but both have done very well on pc

Crash and Spyro weren't remasters, they were full remakes. The power of nostalgia is strong too.

Crash and Spyro were also far more successful than anything Ratchet has ever achieved. They became iconic to Playstation at the time. The original games for both series top Ratchet easily in sales and both series also expanded beyond Playstation with good success.

Ratchet never appeared to have become iconic and has been getting less and less successful as time has passed. Doesn't help that before Rift Apart, we had an 8 year period where the only game was a remake of the first one and Into the Nexus before then was probably the least successful main entry.

[DrLegit]

Originally posted by Acquire:

Originally posted by LaMDA 9000:

The same could have been said for spyro and less so crash but both have done very well on pc

Crash and Spyro weren't remasters, they were full remakes. The power of nostalgia is strong too.

Crash and Spyro were also far more successful than anything Ratchet has ever achieved. They became iconic to Playstation at the time. The original games for both series top Ratchet easily in sales and both series also expanded beyond Playstation with good success.

Ratchet never appeared to have become iconic and has been getting less and less successful as time has passed. Doesn't help that before Rift Apart, we had an 8 year period where the only game was a remake of the first one and Into the Nexus before then was probably the least successful main entry.

R&C sold on PS2 about the same as spyro did on PS1 and was just as much a mascot of the PS2 as spyro was for PS1. They are very comparible. I mean even to expand on that the sequal trilogy on PS3 also did very well which is something both crash and spyro cant claim to have.

[alumlovescake]

Those would have sold worse, Sony knows the amount of people who cry at the sight of a 2002 game is are too big.

Rift Apart can be enjoyed without the others, besides a few references and Easter eggs I don't really think it was be nessecary.
Of course I would love it, I played every R&C besides SAC on the psp but I even played the mobile games but that would be a bad idea for them



"WhY GaMe nOT LoOk LiKE 2o24 game" crowd is far bigger then you realise

[DrLegit]

Originally posted by alumlovescake:

Those would have sold worse, Sony knows the amount of people who cry at the sight of a 2002 game is are too big.

Rift Apart can be enjoyed without the others, besides a few references and Easter eggs I don't really think it was be nessecary.
Of course I would love it, I played every R&C besides SAC on the psp but I even played the mobile games but that would be a bad idea for them



"WhY GaMe nOT LoOk LiKE 2o24 game" crowd is far bigger then you realise

I think thats probably true for console players but PC has always been a lot more lenient on games that dont have flashy graphics. I mean Vampire Survivors has been one of the most successful games on steam for ages with games like terraria always scoring much better than most "AAA" games