Game is pretty much unplayable but everyone else says it is?!?!

[HandsomeKai]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070S (Super)
SSD: Inland NVMe SSD 1TB
HDD: WD Black 4TB (2013)
RAM: Adata DDR4 2400 2OZ 2x8GB
MBD: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS

Here are my specs I don't understand why I cant play this game even If i have everything on low. I put everything on low and even made the resolution down to 1280x720 and STILL THE GAME IS ONLY running at below 30 fps. Is this another bad port or is my PC just ♥♥♥♥ because I can run other games just fine at MAX graphics

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by StarBear:

Hey everyone so I installed the RAM and got everything running up perfectly however Im still only getting about 20-30 frames :( I have some links to photos of my BIOS i think im going to hit up my local Micro Center and see if they can help!

Here are the links
https://imgur.com/LlfiuFx
https://imgur.com/sv5yEnG

Damn, that is a shame.
Your thread actually inspired me to get more and faster RAM since I also have a Ryzen 5 5600X that probably couldn't maximise its efficiency since I'm using 16 GB 2400Mhz of RAM.

That said though, I still get 40-60 FPS with my RX 6600 XT on Med settings and sub 40 FPS when playing on High settings with no upscaling methods. Using IGTI or FSR does help increase the performance for me. The game is installed on my SSD that is not even NVMe.

I don't know why running this game is such a big YMMV case, I've seen posts from people and videos showing they could run the game in 60 FPS on High Settings with no upscaling with the same CPU+GPU as me while I struggle to have consistent 60 FPS.

[Coconut]

I know some of this is redundant, but just to cover your bases, I'd check the following:

• Verify integrity of game files
  
• NVidia drivers up to date
  
• Disable Ray Tracing in-game (not set to low, but turn OFF)
  
• Have DLSS set to Performance mode
  
• Disable Steam Overlay for the game
  
• Make sure Windows 'Game Mode' is turned On
  
• Make sure RAM is running at intended speed. Open Task Manager > Performance > Memory and check that speed says 3600 MHz.
  
• You listed both an HDD and SSD, but which one is the game installed on? SSD is where it should be (although this more affects hitching/stuttering rather than fps)
  
• Try disabling VSync (in some rare cases VSync can lock you to 30fps)
  
• Try changing display mode while in-game. From Borderless to Exclusive Fullscreen or vice-versa.

I would say even if the RAM upgrade didn't directly fix this issue, it's still a good upgrade regardless. There just may be other factors at play.

Oh and maybe check your CPU/GPU/RAM usage before launching the game to see if anything else is consuming it.

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by bottom fragger:

Try disabling VSync (in some rare cases VSync can lock you to 30fps)

There is a specific Vsync setting called "Half Refresh Rate" which I assume caps the FPS to 30.

OP, you might want to check your Vsync setting and make sure it's not "Half Refresh Rate".

[BEEP!]

Edit. I didn't see you already got the new ram lol

Luckily you can get 3200 16gb ram fir like $40.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=372GN2LX564&keywords=computer+tempered+glass+caseCorsair+Vengeance+LPX+16GB+%282x8GB%29+DDR4+DRAM+3200MHz+C16+Desktop+Memory+Kit+-+Black+%28CMK16GX4M2B3200C16%29&qid=1690854428&s=electronics&sprefix=computer+tempered+glass+casecorsair+vengeance+lpx+16gb+2x8gb+ddr4+dram+3200mhz+c16+desktop+memory+kit+-+black+cmk16gx4m2b3200c16+%2Caps%2C278&sr=1-1
This is the Ram I use & it's perfect & cheap I have 32GB & it's more than enough for gaming.
PS. I have the exact same MB just the non wifi version.
Also if you ever upgrade to the 5800x3d that 3200 RAM will be more than enough with how the 5800x3d works & so going 3200 to 3800 RAM does almost nothing to performance in game's so get 32GB or at minimum 16GB of that RAM to save cash then you'll have room to upgrade your cpu without worrying about RAM speeds in the future if you ever decide to go big with the 5800x3d.

[Prashanth]

Originally posted by StarBear:

Hey everyone so I installed the RAM and got everything running up perfectly however Im still only getting about 20-30 frames :( I have some links to photos of my BIOS i think im going to hit up my local Micro Center and see if they can help!

Here are the links
https://imgur.com/LlfiuFx
https://imgur.com/sv5yEnG

Enable expo in bios , your ram is still running at 2400 mhz

[JinxTheWorld]

Originally posted by 1080puktra:

Edit didn't see you already git new ram lol.

Luckily you can get 3200 16gb ram fir like $40.

This is the Ram I use & it's perfect & cheap I have 32GB & it's more than enough for gaming.
PS. I have the exact same MB just the non wifi version.
Also if you ever upgrade to the 5800x3d that 3200 RAM will be more than enough with how the 5800x3d works & so going 3200 to 3800 RAM does almost nothing to performance in game's so get 32GB or at minimum 16GB of that RAM to save cash then you'll have room to upgrade your cpu without worrying about RAM speeds in the future if you ever decide to go big with the 5800x3d.

Yeah only 3200/3600 is needed for 5000 series due to how the infinity fabric works, however 3600mhz is the "sweet spot" for the absolute best performance you can get before overclocking the CPU and manually setting the timings which are mostly unnecessary for gaming.

However i would advise just saving up for AM5 instead of upgrading to the best AM4 CPU. I had a 5800x3d and effectively the best 3600mhz RAM you could buy. The difference between Zen4 and Zen3 is like the difference between Zen1 and Zen3 due to the massive jump in not just RAM speed but base frequency of the CPU. Plus you'll be set for the next 3-4 generations of AMD CPU's. The speed of my PC in everything from booting up to playing games and even just browsing the web is 2-3 times faster than on my 5800X3D. Heck, just opening up steam takes 1/3 the time lol.

The downside to upgrading to the new platform is gonna cost anywhere from $400-$900, depending on the CPU and MoBo you buy and what deals you can find. Also having knowledge in building PC to some extent, since you will need to effectively tear apart your PC and put in the new MoBo, RAM, and CPU. That and probably buy a new windows licence for $138 (a legit one anyways) lol.

[socially ept outcel]

Even using weak RAM like you had before wouldn't cause that kind of low performance. Have you updated drivers?

[JinxTheWorld]

Originally posted by Prashanth:

Enable expo in bios , your ram is still running at 2400 mhz

For him it's call DOCP. Expo is an AM5 thing.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by JinxTheWorld:

Originally posted by 1080puktra:

Edit didn't see you already git new ram lol.

Luckily you can get 3200 16gb ram fir like $40.

This is the Ram I use & it's perfect & cheap I have 32GB & it's more than enough for gaming.
PS. I have the exact same MB just the non wifi version.
Also if you ever upgrade to the 5800x3d that 3200 RAM will be more than enough with how the 5800x3d works & so going 3200 to 3800 RAM does almost nothing to performance in game's so get 32GB or at minimum 16GB of that RAM to save cash then you'll have room to upgrade your cpu without worrying about RAM speeds in the future if you ever decide to go big with the 5800x3d.

Yeah only 3200/3600 is needed for 5000 series due to how the infinity fabric works, however 3600mhz is the "sweet spot" for the absolute best performance you can get before overclocking the CPU and manually setting the timings which are mostly unnecessary for gaming.

However i would advise just saving up for AM5 instead of upgrading to the best AM4 CPU. I had a 5800x3d and effectively the best 3600mhz RAM you could buy. The difference between Zen4 and Zen3 is like the difference between Zen1 and Zen3 due to the massive jump in not just RAM speed but base frequency of the CPU. Plus you'll be set for the next 3-4 generations of AMD CPU's. The speed of my PC in everything from booting up to playing games and even just browsing the web is 2-3 times faster than on my 5800X3D. Heck, just opening up steam takes 1/3 the time lol.

The downside to upgrading to the new platform is gonna cost anywhere from $400-$900, depending on the CPU and MoBo you buy and what deals you can find. Also having knowledge in building PC to some extent, since you will need to effectively tear apart your PC and put in the new MoBo, RAM, and CPU. That and probably buy a new windows licence for $138 (a legit one anyways) lol.

Yea I decided to just upgrade to the 5800x3d $230 form the 3600 and from what I've seen and the months of research the performance difference from 3200 RAM & 3600 RAM is maybe 2%-3% at most and 3200 RAM is still more than enough for a good while I might consider upgrading the the next gen maybe 3 or so years from now there's just not a big enough boost in performance to warrant spending half a grand to a grand for just a few percent in performance for game's there's a reason why the AM5 board's and CPUs keep radically dropping in prices and have constantly big deals happening for it the last gen is still more than enough for gaming and cost 1/3 the price like to see any meaningful benefits from DDR5 you you basically need a very high end rig and the CPU and the 5800x3d is still far more than enough for gaming it's almost to much even today for the most demanding cpu intense games so it's more than enough and the new gen stuff has basically been cut in half in price sense last year and it's still dropping in prices there's just not enough of a benefit to go from DDR4 to DDR5 unless your on a very high end rig.

[JinxTheWorld]

Originally posted by 1080puktra:

Yea I decided to just upgrade to the 5800x3d $230 form the 3600 and from what I've seen and the months of research the performance difference from 3200 RAM & 3600 RAM is maybe 2%-3% at most and 3200 RAM is still more than enough for a good while I might consider upgrading the the next gen maybe 3 or so years from now there's just not a big enough boost in performance to warrant spending half a grand to a grand for just a few percent in performance for game's there's a reason why the AM5 board's and CPUs keep radically dropping in prices and have constantly big deals happening for it the last gen is still more than enough for gaming and cost 1/3 the price like to see any meaningful benefits from DDR5 you you basically need a very high end rig and the CPU and the 5800x3d is still far more than enough for gaming it's almost to much even today for the most demanding cpu intense games so it's more than enough and the new gen stuff has basically been cut in half in price sense last year and it's still dropping in prices there's just not enough of a benefit to go from DDR4 to DDR5 unless your on a very high end rig.

Yeah, definitely no problem with that. It remains a very strong CPU. I had the extra cash so i waited until amazon prime day and got a 7900x for 35% off ($371 after taxes) lol. RAM was only $118 and MoBo i got for 17% off. In total i paid just under $800, though im set for at least 3 years. 7900x is about almost equal to a 13900k in single core performance which is perfect for gaming while still having a very strong multi-core performance. Do mind this is with the 7900x having less cores. Despite the rep of the 7000 series, my temps are only slightly higher than they were with the 5800x3d, about 65-70c. Except for idle temps that is 50-55c lol. This is with a Arctic Freezer II 240 AIO.

The main reason i got a 7900x though is for UE5 development which needs a lot of cores unless you wanna sit waiting a lot lol. The 5800x3d was still way too slow while being pegged at 100%.

Though lemme tell ya, AM5 is stupid fast compared to AM4 lol. Basically no delay in anything. You blink after clicking and it's already fully loaded and open lol.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by JinxTheWorld:

Originally posted by 1080puktra:

Yea I decided to just upgrade to the 5800x3d $230 form the 3600 and from what I've seen and the months of research the performance difference from 3200 RAM & 3600 RAM is maybe 2%-3% at most and 3200 RAM is still more than enough for a good while I might consider upgrading the the next gen maybe 3 or so years from now there's just not a big enough boost in performance to warrant spending half a grand to a grand for just a few percent in performance for game's there's a reason why the AM5 board's and CPUs keep radically dropping in prices and have constantly big deals happening for it the last gen is still more than enough for gaming and cost 1/3 the price like to see any meaningful benefits from DDR5 you you basically need a very high end rig and the CPU and the 5800x3d is still far more than enough for gaming it's almost to much even today for the most demanding cpu intense games so it's more than enough and the new gen stuff has basically been cut in half in price sense last year and it's still dropping in prices there's just not enough of a benefit to go from DDR4 to DDR5 unless your on a very high end rig.

Yeah, definitely no problem with that. It remains a very strong CPU. I had the extra cash so i waited until amazon prime day and got a 7900x for 35% off ($371 after taxes) lol. RAM was only $118 and MoBo i got for 17% off. In total i paid just under $800, though im set for at least 3 years. 7900x is about almost equal to a 13900k in single core performance which is perfect for gaming while still having a very strong multi-core performance. Do mind this is with the 7900x having less cores. Despite the rep of the 7000 series, my temps are only slightly higher than they were with the 5800x3d, about 65-70c. Except for idle temps that is 50-55c lol. This is with a Arctic Freezer II 240 AIO.

The main reason i got a 7900x though is for UE5 development which needs a lot of cores unless you wanna sit waiting a lot lol. The 5800x3d was still way too slow while being pegged at 100%.

Though lemme tell ya, AM5 is stupid fast compared to AM4 lol. Basically no delay in anything. You blink after clicking and it's already fully loaded and open lol.

Yea for other things than gaming it is wise to go with the new gen stuff but if your only using your PC for non professional work and just daily use and gaming AM4 will be more than enough for years to come well the performance difference in gaming today from DDR4 3200 to DDR5 6000 is like 3-5fps on average in games lol no joke you just don't need that crazy fast stuff yet unless you have a top of the line PC for gaming like a 4090 and such so for the majority of people I recommended if you already have a good AM4 board just go with the 5800x3d then sit on that for years & years it's just that good there's just no point in upgrading to next gen stuff for gaming for anything under the top of the line hardware but like you said if you do more than just game then yea upgrade to next gen and if your looking at AM5 AMD stuff keep an eye out for thoses deals AMD has been doing crazy deals to sell there stuff and in the next couple of months the prices will be even lower again lol.

[maloce]

I have a 3060 TI, 3600, and 16gb of ram. Do you guys think I need 32 gb of ram too for my cpu? I think my cpu is kind of old.

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Originally posted by maloce:

I have a 3060 TI, 3600, and 16gb of ram. Do you guys think I need 32 gb of ram too for my cpu? I think my cpu is kind of old.

That CPU should be fine in most game's but it does struggle in CPU intense game's but for the 3060TI that's plenty and 16GB-RAM is the min you want I would recommend to get 32GB-RAM though but it's not a must have upgrade more of a side thing to worry about in the future luckily DDR4 RAM is cheap look up (Corsair Vengeance ddr4) this is the RAM I use make shear it's at least 3200MHz in speeds preferably 3600MHz but over all it won't really matter in gaming performance just go for the cheaper one just make shear it's either CL16 or CL14 it doesn't really matter which one but I hear CL16 is easier to use and work with but over all you don't need 32GB-RAM it's more of a recommend to have over 16GB for a smoother experience overall.
If I was you I'd recommend upgrading your GPU more than anything look at the RX6800 10% weaker on average than a RTX-3080-10GB in non RT, the RX6800 is $450 on average comes' with the Starfield prem bundle which means the card technically cost $350 that's a crazy good deal I use this card and 95% of game's at 3440x1440p are max settings non RT 90-100fps and the 3600 CPU will be enough for the RX6800 for awhile till you upgrade the CPU in the future.

[Wolf]

Your ram isn’t the issue it’s just a horrible pc port. I just tested it on a RX 6600 (same performance as a 2060 super) with demanding settings like SSAO set to off and the rest of the graphics settings set to medium and I get a whopping 25 fps at 1080p.

If people are getting decent frames it’s because they’re using resolution scaling and not native. People fail to understand that DLSS and FSR actually downscale your resolution quality to boost fps and then “upscale” aka auto expand the picture to fit your monitors screen size. At the end of the day you’re actually sacrificing quality for higher frames..

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Choomba:

Your ram isn’t the issue it’s just a horrible pc port. I just tested it on a RX 6600 (same performance as a 2060 super) with demanding settings like SSAO set to off and the rest of the graphics settings set to medium and I get a whopping 25 fps at 1080p.

If people are getting decent frames it’s because they’re using resolution scaling and not native. People fail to understand that DLSS and FSR actually downscale your resolution quality to boost fps and then “upscale” aka auto expand the picture to fit your monitors screen size. At the end of the day you’re actually sacrificing quality for higher frames..

No, I was not using dynamic resolution and actually benchmarked the game in native 1080p.
I get 40-60 FPS on Med and sub 40 FPS on High with no upscaling method whatsoever on my RX 6600 XT + Ryzen 5 5600X @ 3.8GHz + 16 GB 2400MHz DDR4 RAM + SATA SSD.

I wouldn't call this port horrible (check out Saints Row 2, Grand Theft Auto IV and the initial launch of Arkham Knight for true examples of horrible ports), it's just a weird one that runs better on some people's PCs than others even with the same hardware.
Like my PC can somehow run this game better than OP's PC but I've seen videos with similar hardware to mine that can run the game more than 60 FPS on High settings.