Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart

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Phineapple Jul 27, 2023 @ 1:22pm
GPU low wattage
Running this game on a Lenovo legion 5 pro with a 5800h and 3060 6gb, along with 32 gigs of ram. now I know this game shouldn't run this bad on my setup since im seeing videos on youtube featuring 1660's with better performance than mine in this game, im barely getting over 40fps with texture on medium, RT off, 1440p DLSSp

Using Nvidia overlay I can clearly see that even tho the GPU is at 99% load, the wattage is very low at around 80-90. The weirder thing is when looking at the sky or ground - the wattage goes up to the low 100's and the fps doubles (!)... I mean, you'd think the wattage would go down since the load is lighter.

This is so F***ing odd and frankly its kind of pissing me off how games these days require either brute force or some fancy premium feature like Frame Gen to have games running smoothly.

Anyway..
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Reaptor Jul 27, 2023 @ 1:27pm 
Ditch the laptop. Laptops are never worth it.
Also, change your power saving settings.
Phineapple Jul 27, 2023 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:
Ditch the laptop. Laptops are never worth it.
Also, change your power saving settings.

Forgot to mention - other games, ie. Diablo IV, is using the full 130 watts when it needs to. its clearly some problem with this game
Reaptor Jul 27, 2023 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by Phineapple:
Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:
Ditch the laptop. Laptops are never worth it.
Also, change your power saving settings.

Forgot to mention - other games, ie. Diablo IV, is using the full 130 watts when it needs to. its clearly some problem with this game
Diablo 4 is a terrible comparison, while looking pretty nice, it's a game that has a much MUCH lower requirement than anything else on the AAA market. I mean, recommended specs are an i5-4670k+GTX970 (this is hardware from 10 years ago).
A Rift Apart's recommended is an i5-8400+RTX 2060
Phineapple Jul 28, 2023 @ 5:40am 
so youre saying diablo 4 is a bad example because its less demanding yet it uses my gpu to its fullest? I don't follow
Reaptor Jul 29, 2023 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Phineapple:
so youre saying diablo 4 is a bad example because its less demanding yet it uses my gpu to its fullest? I don't follow
A big misunderstanding is that 100% gpu load doesn't mean your gpu is "capping out" or working too hard. Most games run at 100% gpu load and you actually want to see 100% usage.

It's a bad comparison in the fact that you're saying you get better performance on Diablo 4 than A Rift Apart. Of course you do, Diablo 4 is significantly less demanding than A Rift Apart.
Last edited by Reaptor; Jul 29, 2023 @ 1:19pm
Phineapple Jul 30, 2023 @ 2:08am 
Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:
Originally posted by Phineapple:
so youre saying diablo 4 is a bad example because its less demanding yet it uses my gpu to its fullest? I don't follow
A big misunderstanding is that 100% gpu load doesn't mean your gpu is "capping out" or working too hard. Most games run at 100% gpu load and you actually want to see 100% usage.

It's a bad comparison in the fact that you're saying you get better performance on Diablo 4 than A Rift Apart. Of course you do, Diablo 4 is significantly less demanding than A Rift Apart.

I get what you're saying, Diablo 4 is just an example. I do see 99% usage but the power draw is significantly lower (80 watts) than in other games, not just Diablo 4. same with thermals. To me this suggests that my GPU isn't infact being utilized to its fullest, especially when I compare my performance to a lower spec rig (YouTube) and ESPECIALLY when I lower settings to the absolute lowest and fps gains are within a 5% margin at best.

Something is off and I doubt it's on my end, I wish it was since I'd be able to do something about it.
Artie Jul 30, 2023 @ 10:53am 
same issue man, any solutions? The game is totally at fault, with i7-11370H RTX 3050 Ti 16gb ram at any setting and any resolution I get 20-30 fps with crazy spikes, even low vram is not an issue as it is not maxed out, CPU is at 30% load and the game utilizes 30-40 watts when it's usually around 90
Artie Jul 30, 2023 @ 10:57am 
the game is at fault, you can check any laptop benchmark video and they all have the same issue, comments confirm it, dumbass devs can't even make the game run properly.
Phineapple Jul 30, 2023 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Artie:
the game is at fault, you can check any laptop benchmark video and they all have the same issue, comments confirm it, dumbass devs can't even make the game run properly.

What blows my mind is that it runs relativity well on handhelds.. only thing we can do is file a report straight to nixxes and hope they address this.
Reaptor Jul 30, 2023 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Artie:
the game is at fault, you can check any laptop benchmark video and they all have the same issue, comments confirm it, dumbass devs can't even make the game run properly.
Typical laptop user cope
fuller Jul 30, 2023 @ 11:43am 
Don't know if it works on laptops, but I fixed it by setting the game to maximum performance in Nvidia Control Panel (Manage 3D Settings > Program Settings > Power management mode). Also works for Spider Man and Miles Morales, so I'm not even sure if this will ever get fixed. Big issue though, it causes the crashes to happen more frequently. This just isn't a good port.
Artie Jul 30, 2023 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:
Originally posted by Artie:
the game is at fault, you can check any laptop benchmark video and they all have the same issue, comments confirm it, dumbass devs can't even make the game run properly.
Typical laptop user cope
dude who cares who plays on what, are you 12 or smth? I have an ok pc, but I like to play games on my couch.
Artie Jul 30, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by Phineapple:
Originally posted by Artie:
the game is at fault, you can check any laptop benchmark video and they all have the same issue, comments confirm it, dumbass devs can't even make the game run properly.

What blows my mind is that it runs relativity well on handhelds.. only thing we can do is file a report straight to nixxes and hope they address this.
yeah, I'm pretty shocked too, I just don't want to bother with installing it on my desktop. Just gonna skip this one.
Artie Jul 30, 2023 @ 1:23pm 
Originally posted by fuller:
Don't know if it works on laptops, but I fixed it by setting the game to maximum performance in Nvidia Control Panel (Manage 3D Settings > Program Settings > Power management mode). Also works for Spider Man and Miles Morales, so I'm not even sure if this will ever get fixed. Big issue though, it causes the crashes to happen more frequently. This just isn't a good port.
Nah man have already tried it and many other things. The game runs worse than any AAA title currently.
Vidja Jul 30, 2023 @ 7:44pm 
Originally posted by Stalking Reaptor:
Originally posted by Artie:
the game is at fault, you can check any laptop benchmark video and they all have the same issue, comments confirm it, dumbass devs can't even make the game run properly.
Typical laptop user cope

This seems to also be an inconstant bug on desktop. I've seen two others mention it on reddit.

On an R9 5900x system my 3080 would pull full power and get up to 78c. Swapped the 5900x for a 7950x3d (still same GPU and nvme ssd) and with the same settings the GPU would pull 200-220w and get a max temp of 67c. Performance was somewhat lower and it also introduced stuttering. Turning the texture quality down to medium was able to fix the stutter and made the GPU run a little closer to its max power putting it at 250-270w and hitting 70c.

To further put that it must be this game, before the CPU change Rift Apart would hit my GPU harder than Cyberpunk, Cyberpunk would get to 76c. After this CPU change Cyberpunk still makes the GPU pull 320-330w. (card both before and after CPU change is slightly undervolted with +500 on the ram).
Last edited by Vidja; Jul 30, 2023 @ 8:06pm
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Date Posted: Jul 27, 2023 @ 1:22pm
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