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Maybe, but still, I think it is the desired *true* ending. The game is about personal growth of both Inco and Olivia, and endings are decided according to their growth. In my eyes the rest of the endings are more of an expanded game over/mission failed screen rather than canon endings because they are the consequences of failing the primary mission of the game, which is succesfully managing to make Inco and Olivia a better person through choices. While ED3 does ''feel more in character with olivia'' this is because you failed to help olivia and change her bad traits. Even from a technical point, it is about acquiring points to win the game.
As for Olivia's attitude towards graduation, you have to understand that Ending 3 Olivia is theoretically her with 0 points. Doesn't matter if you even got three with her, the version in that ending will always be one who feels weak and insecure and clings to Inco for support. Whereas in 4 she's more confident in herself from being forced to take responsibility. So I have no issues there.
I do agree their date in 4 feels very phoned in compared to 3. I mean, a hibachi grill. So what? I took my mom to one once. Just makes me think of that scene in Wolf of Wall-Street where he's like "BENIHANA!?"
I've noticed that adult Olivia in ending 2 and epilogue looks thinner, and that's why she looks so different physically. But yeah, she acts very aloof in the epilogue. I got the impression that she was going to become a teacher like Iadakan, which makes sense considering how she acts in ending 3 with the idea of carrying on a legacy. My ideal adult Olivia would be someone who adopts Iadakan's flamboyance as she actively looks for others like herself who need guidance. How she's portrayed in the epilogue seems like a regression of her character.
As for Olivia screwing Inco over with the art contest thing, it bothers me a lot that he doesn't get angry when he would've had every right to. He simps for her no matter what.
The more I dissect this game, the more issues I see crop up. Don't get me wrong, I think it's wonderfully written for the most part, but there are numerous issues that seem to exist for plot convenience.
Still, I don't want a thing to be changed. As it is, it's a good template for the modding community. I really want to make a mod to fix the things that bug me, but that's going to take time.
''I think what bugs me most about Ending 4 is how Mia is conveniently able to show up for the formal just so they can wrap up the loose ends concerning her. Ending 3 showed her getting punished for destroying school property, but in 4, she's just like "♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥, I'm out," and the principal does NOTHING. Really lazy writing there.''
Yeah, Scaler does say that she has enough to work on after the confrontation with Ben and Mia. But nothing comes out of it. Her showing up at the formal is believable, I think it was Ben convincing Scaler to let him take his gf to the formal.
''As for Olivia's attitude towards graduation, you have to understand that Ending 3 Olivia is theoretically her with 0 points. Doesn't matter if you even got three with her, the version in that ending will always be one who feels weak and insecure and clings to Inco for support. Whereas in 4 she's more confident in herself from being forced to take responsibility. So I have no issues there.''
Yes but she was harboring those thoughts even if you didnt give the required points. She felt guilty about being a bother to the Payne's and despite how much she hated that she won the contest, she had to keep it as she believed it was the only way out.
''I do agree their date in 4 feels very phoned in compared to 3. I mean, a hibachi grill. So what? I took my mom to one once. Just makes me think of that scene in Wolf of Wall-Street where he's like "BENIHANA!?"''
Feels like ED3 and ED4 dates should have switched places. (and small details like Olivia buying new paint would be better if it had its own mini story)
''I've noticed that adult Olivia in ending 2 and epilogue looks thinner, and that's why she looks so different physically. But yeah, she acts very aloof in the epilogue. I got the impression that she was going to become a teacher like Iadakan, which makes sense considering how she acts in ending 3 with the idea of carrying on a legacy. My ideal adult Olivia would be someone who adopts Iadakan's flamboyance as she actively looks for others like herself who need guidance. How she's portrayed in the epilogue seems like a regression of her character.''
It bothered me so much that I did a cross-reference using sprites.
ED2 adult Olivia, despite having a couple small facial differences (sharper jaw and snoot) still looks like Olivia. Her body is the same as the young one, its as if she merely switched clothing.
Epilogue Olivia has even more facial differences and a completely new body to the point where she could pass as an entirely new character, like as if the sprite was meant for Olivia's mom but got repurposed instead. She is much thinner, to the point where it looks like surgery was involved, her secondary skin color (whatever they are called, the underbelly skin for crocodiles or something) is much more yellowish and she lost the developed arm muscles. Her jaw is rounder and her snoot is shorter and goes straight down instead of a curve
I think part of the charm of Olivia's design was her toned muscles and tail (and how she uses them aggressively, when she wants to convey her love physically) and her slightly chubby figure which is due to lack of movement and apetite for food. Prologue Olivia looks weaker and as if she stopped eating. The way her thighs and belly is gone, alongside her arms and upper body becoming thinner, its like she started going to running marathons daily while absolutely refusing to use her arms.
She looks like she lost the ability to do death rolls and that makes me sad :(
Liz and Damien future sprites are pretty much the same (except Liz's pregnancy and the new hair style of the couple, obviously) and it works too damn well. They look grown while still themselves, while Inco and Olivia look more different. Sure they changed as people over the senior year but those changes were about simply being more mature and responsible, not about their fashion or humor. I think they should have recieved the same treatment, same sprites with new clothes. Epilogue takes place in 2027, 3 years after the vacation, so it makes sense that they did not change that much.
As for their personality, the Epilogue is too short to form an opinion, but Olivia does feel off.
And yes, Olivia becoming a teacher in St. Hammond would have been a much better ending, I thought the speech Scaler asked her and her wish was a hint but I guess not really.
''As for Olivia screwing Inco over with the art contest thing, it bothers me a lot that he doesn't get angry when he would've had every right to. He simps for her no matter what.''
I think this is about Inco wanting to be nice to her and knowing that being angry might push her back to the old days, where she was uncaring and cold to everyone.
''The more I dissect this game, the more issues I see crop up. Don't get me wrong, I think it's wonderfully written for the most part, but there are numerous issues that seem to exist for plot convenience.''
You tell me. I have been feeling empty due to expecting too much from the ED4 as I completed the others beforehand, I did not have my closure I guess. Due to lack of content I just keep going back to the chapters to see if I skipped anything like hints or additional trivia.
''Still, I don't want a thing to be changed. As it is, it's a good template for the modding community. I really want to make a mod to fix the things that bug me, but that's going to take time.''
Well, I dont know. While mods might fix the things that bother us, it is not the same knowing that they are not canon. I would like an official change in the narrative of some sorts.