Have you completely lost your mind with Update 6.0?

[Wolverous]

Okay, okay... I get it. New update, new content, new challenges, new achievements. I respect that and appreciate the work and content development for the game. I really don't have a problem with absolute hardcore achievements for the super hardcore players who play such games 24/7, but those should be in-game achievements, and so far, that's how it has been. I remember those two upgrade achievements without having any buildings. Absolutely insane and really only a challenge for the hardcore players because it's not fun—you're literally not playing the game. Those were also Steam achievements back then and, after much back and forth, they were removed, which was the right move. Ultra challenges have their place, but only as in-game challenges. That was a sensible decision back then, all fine.

Now, I look at this update and think: Have you completely lost your mind? I have 2500 hours on the clock and have killed 14 million enemies. Now I have to do that another 7 times? 7 times??? Even if I take 3 pets that have the challenge simultaneously, that's still 30 million enemies. 30 MILLION (!). With 14 million enemies killed in 2500 hours. On top of that, I'm supposed to spend 135,000 amber? Here again, with perfect distribution (which makes the playtime even more absurd), that's still 45,000 amber. I'm not even going to start on the 16 (!) pets at level 14. Even with perfect distribution, that's 760 days, and there's no way to perfectly time that with the other tasks.

...and these are just the things I can imagine because I know the game already. I don't even want to know what absurd stuff is going on with that new Conquest thing. Making such completely absurd tasks into Steam achievements again is sheer madness and one of the most player-unfriendly things I've ever seen. There's no problem keeping such hardcore tasks within the game itself, but as general Steam achievements? I "only" have to collect 700 achievements and not all 723, so why make such maximally absurd things into Steam achievements again? A few more reasonable tasks to bring people back on board and motivate them to care about the game again would have been enough, instead of almost taking the soul out of the game. I just don't get it. It deters, it demotivates, and it doesn't make me think for a second about supporting it financially.

Maybe I'm alone in this opinion, maybe business is going insanely well and the cow just needs to be milked further, okay, then I'm the fool. But this is all so over the top, I just feel incredibly sorry for all the people who have spent 2 years in the game to reach 100%, like me, only to be completely knocked out by such an update. Unbelievable, really. I truly wish you all the best, but I wouldn't be surprised if even more people quit now than already have.

[chris.fritsch]

He has completly lost his mind. I am 3568 hours in, and what for...

Can only hope he reverts his bad decisions,

[wordwaster]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I hadn't noticed that yet.

wow. That can't be right, right? I was at 100% completion and now I am literally years away from 100% completion? ****ing ****.

[wordwaster]

can someone else verify the math on this? Because if this is accurate, I am done with this game. That is beyond insulting.

[Mitodoq]

the developer was completely drunk when he made these new achievements

[nurik.sakura]

引用自 wordwaster：

can someone else verify the math on this? Because if this is accurate, I am done with this game. That is beyond insulting.

Yeah, the math is a bit incorrect. It's actually at least 75k amber you need to get all the colours for all the pets. I made another topic in discussions about it earlier today.

[nurik.sakura]

And you need at least 40kk enemies defeated. With 7.7k hours in game I have a lifetime number of 58kk. So basically you'd need 5k-ish hours to achieve that.

All the pets with skins that require 10kk mobs:

Bunny
Capybara
Snake

Cat
Dog
Turtle

Lil Kitten
Lil Doggie
Dragonfly

Parrot
Wolf

With Cat/Lil Kitten and Dog/Lil Doggie/Wolf you would have to take them all separately, because they are each consider a separate pet.

[[TBG] Mai]

Always been looking forward for the new updates and additions to the game. Sure some may have been controversial and not well received but they were a push forwards.

Sitting at 1k hours currently, so requiring 4k+ hours of constant grinding to achieve a PART of a larger achievement while also neglecting other pets is just too much. I'm guessing it would take decades to get that achievement in my case.

[ariva7]

"...and these are just the things I can imagine because I know the game already. I don't even want to know what absurd stuff is going on with that new Conquest thing. "

The absurdity of conquest is that you earn currency to level up heroes just by winning battles. This cannot be obtained by already winning battles. You can't win a battle with weak heroes. You have to level them up, but to do that you have to win the battle... Am I missing something?

[Huggles the Cat]

I came back to check things out after the disaster that was 5.0, but it seems the dev hasn't learned anything yet. Time to uninstall again. Maybe for good this time.

[MadCrabPrime]

引用自 ariva7：

"...and these are just the things I can imagine because I know the game already. I don't even want to know what absurd stuff is going on with that new Conquest thing. "

The absurdity of conquest is that you earn currency to level up heroes just by winning battles. This cannot be obtained by already winning battles. You can't win a battle with weak heroes. You have to level them up, but to do that you have to win the battle... Am I missing something?

Your somewhat right, you generate the level up currency, but its at such a low rate it might as well be nothing. 100 an hour at level 3 training grounds will grant you a level for a level 1 hero.

[Foxmaiden]

引用自 ariva7：

"...and these are just the things I can imagine because I know the game already. I don't even want to know what absurd stuff is going on with that new Conquest thing. "

The absurdity of conquest is that you earn currency to level up heroes just by winning battles. This cannot be obtained by already winning battles. You can't win a battle with weak heroes. You have to level them up, but to do that you have to win the battle... Am I missing something?

What are you suggesting? that Heroes, with levels, gain EXP by killing monsters? This is absurd... Never saw this... /s

AND, let's say that they will gain exp by killing foes.... We are only going to generate wood? No, we need more ways to be limited! Don't forget: it's on mobile too!

[★ ANON ★]

After 4800h I stopped playing now too

[MadPAM]

引用自 Wolverous：

But this is all so over the top, I just feel incredibly sorry for all the people who have spent 2 years in the game to reach 100%, like me, only to be completely knocked out by such an update.

I "play" this game because I like it. The mechanics are easy to understand. I start it twice a day and I make progress every week.
I do NOT play the game to reach 100% achievements. And for me it is the wrong motivation. If your motivation is to ONLY to get 100% this game is probably not for you because it is still under active development - which I for one really appreciate.
The new content is - in my opinion - an interesting addition to the game, which will help me grow my income. I can already see that my income is substantially larger than before.
I don't like the limitation to 1.000 amber stored (or decreased amount of eggs and keys) but on the other hand this means only that I have to make the purchase a week later. Not a real loss in my opinion.

[DwX]

ohh my god its happening again with the ♥♥♥♥♥ achievements

[Destructoid666]

Originally I stopped playing this game becaue the progress was horribly slow. Returned after several years when there were frequent changes regarding speed of Elixir generation and that allowed me to gain some meaningfull progress and sped up the game to reasonable rate. But now? With all that stuff that is here? It feels demotivating to continue to play.

Gonna see how long the Conquest system keeps me here, but once that becomes tedious just like other stuff... I'm gonna get lost for another several years at least.