Unlock achievement by Perfect Ascension ??

[Swagrocket]

Hello Shamahan,

I am running a long ascension since May 28, 2023.

In order for me to unlock the research achievement of completing the tier 11 upgrades without any upgrades in previous tiers, I would have to ascend in a normal way.

Imagine the agony of having to wait another ~3 months after that to get back where I courrently am in terms of Elixir.

So, can you please make that achievement unlockable by perfect ascension ?

You can -if you want- set rules to makes the option available only to players who haveb certain stats (meaning that they acn actually complete the achievement in a normal way at ease) if you are afraid that people will abuse the game by unlocking achievement they are no where near to obtain if not for amber.

Thank you!

[CyborgJellyFish]

Lets face it, you're gonna ascension at some point. Why not unlock that achievement after you do? Until then, its just an achievement. Surely its not that important?

If it IS that important to you, think of how much more elixir you'd get in another 3 months after spending all you've earned now on upgrades. That's what ascensions are for right?

Either way since Perfect Ascension is literally "claim all your elixir without restarting" and doesn't reset upgrades / buildings, that's quite the opposite of the achievement you're trying to get. It doesn't really make sense to me...

[Swagrocket]

hello and thank you for taking the time to comment on my thread.

Originally posted by CyborgJellyFish:

Lets face it, you're gonna ascension at some point.

Why ? that's not needed at all. I do not plan on ascending in a normal way ever again.

Originally posted by CyborgJellyFish:

... think of how much more elixir you'd get in another 3 months after spending all you've earned now on upgrades. That's what ascensions are for right?

Either way since Perfect Ascension is literally "claim all your elixir without restarting" and doesn't reset upgrades / buildings,

I don't know if you noticed, but you kind of corrected yourself here. First you assumed that I don't "perfectly" ascend, then you explained what perfect ascension does.

I do at least two perfect ascensions each event. That is why I dont need at all to ascend in a normal way. And for someone who is aiming for 100% achievements, it IS important to me to get that one. But it doesn't make sense to waste 3 months of my life just for it. Forgetting about the game all together and uninstalling it would be the preferable choice if it comes to it. And I don't really want to do that. So, I'm asking for Shamahan's understanding on the dilemma created by introducing the perfect ascensions.
I'm sure I'm not the only player who never wants to ascend normally ever again.

I hope I made myself clear.

[Shamahan]

Unfortunately this won't be added, as using the regular Ascension is just part of the achievements objective and checking whether a player could potentially complete this achievement would require way too complex mathematics on my end.

There are multiple other achievements that require the player to use the regular Ascension, so changing the rules for one achievement would mean that every one of these achievements would have to be changed.

[Swagrocket]

I understand that normal ascensions are part of the game, I was just hoping that this achievement specifically would be an exception since it was introduced not too long ago.

As for complicated calculations, you can make it an option available only to those who have all the ascension skills unlocked for example. This way I at least know that at some point in the future I will be able to unlock it.

I really don't want to waste 3 months like this... and if it's guaranteed that I won't be able to 100% the game, then what's the point of continuing now...

I'm asking you for a way to keep one of your oldest ninjas "running", because I don't really want to stop now..

Thanks

[sdumitriu]

From my experience, given that ascensions also increase the GpS bonus, it only takes about 7 days (of active runtime) to get back to the pre-ascension state, meaning same number of buildings, same research, same elixir. So you will definitely not have to wait another 3 months to get back to your current state.

[CyborgJellyFish]

Originally posted by Swagrocket:

I don't know if you noticed, but you kind of corrected yourself here. First you assumed that I don't "perfectly" ascend, then you explained what perfect ascension does.

No, I was saying that Perfect Ascensions DO NOT reset buildings -- thereby not meeting the achievement criteria. Everything else you said is correct since I wasn't aware that you were done with all the other ascension-related stuff.

Originally posted by Swagrocket:

since it was introduced not too long ago.

And that's where I hold my hands up and say my bad. I personally only started playing a couple of days ago, so I didn't know it was a new achievement. In that regards I totally get where you're coming from. I still think as far as the wording's concerned it doesn't work, but another option would've been good for those who were effectively done with that feature.

[Swagrocket]

I finally managed to complete tier 13 and max out shrine to complete building levels after a 3 month long ascension..

I understand that in v5.0.0, the "big brain move (11)" achievement that I was talking about will be removed, or rather, visible under legacy fot those who managed to claim it before the patch. (yes, I finally managed to use discord !!)

So, since I finished with Tier 13 and shrine, I decided to ascend to claim the legacy achievement. And as suspected, it took me only a couple of hours.

I hope I wont regret this :D I have a huge moutain to climb now to get back to my 960e12% Elixir bonus to gps :D