Still crashes.. 3070

[Nachtmahr]

Feels good but still crashes... building shaders was fast this time tho

[kgkong]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cylokin:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mr Pickle:

Play at 1008p high settings (not ultra!) and you will not crash because you wont reach the 8GB VRAM limitation.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gatto_nero:

weak nvidia gpu with 8gb vram - thats why

Stop blaming everything on VRAM! This port is broken, simple as that. I for example play on 3070 8gb on High/Ultra on 1440p without single crash.
Stop with the VRAM ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

The "VRAM witnesses" are all over the place. Either try to help the person with useful information or don't post same VRAM crap over and over again.

Some users have systems that cannot handle the vRAM spillover and it has been causing crashes. Workaround fixes for this is to play within spec of the vRAM.

More specifically, why would these systems be having game crashes when others with vRAM limitations aren't? Well it comes down to the end user's hardware configuration. In some instances, the system RAM cannot keep pace with the CPU and GPU (vRAM and GPU computing), and it caps out the system RAM and crashes because it causes a fatal fault in the game. Realistically, video memory spillover should not cause a crash, it should just cause performance losses as slower DDR4/5 memory takes over for the GDDR5/GDDR6 video memory. In some instances, the system memory fills up and there's not enough page file allocated in Windows and this causes a game crash. This behaviour is normal and to be expected when all memory modules (vRAM and system RAM) fill up including the page file.

Ensuring that memory is properly stable (it's pretty easy to make memory look stable but then crap out under full workloads or max memory capacities). A game having a memory leak tends to make these system optimization issues even worse. Yes, the memory leak is a problem in the game, but even a memory leak shouldn't result in a game crashing (unless it's a very serious leak which is not present with TLOU).

Sadly, nVidia decided to release the middle range line of the 30 series with a limiting amount of vRAM. Likely has a lot to do with the fact that the vast majority of nVidia users don't actually use a resolution above 1080p. So why should they sell their products to a majority of their demographic that won't use the feature? This is why nVidia is also currently focused on targeting the enthusiast and high end gamer demographic.

[Hattori van der Hanzo]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย KingGorillaKong:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hattori van der Hanzo::

How to alocate 60 GB page file? Show me the magic in steps like I'm wearing a mask alone in the car. Thank you.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/how-to-manage-virtual-memory-pagefile-windows-10,36929.html

Set the minimum page file size to the MB value of how much physical memory you have installed. IE if you have 16GB of RAM, you set 16x1024 MB. Set the maximum to 1.5x your total physical RAM, so 16GB of RAM you set 24x2024 MB.

Thank you kind sir

[kgkong]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hattori van der Hanzo::

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย KingGorillaKong:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/how-to-manage-virtual-memory-pagefile-windows-10,36929.html

Set the minimum page file size to the MB value of how much physical memory you have installed. IE if you have 16GB of RAM, you set 16x1024 MB. Set the maximum to 1.5x your total physical RAM, so 16GB of RAM you set 24x2024 MB.

Thank you kind sir

Cheers!

[Spoon]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cylokin:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mr Pickle:

Play at 1008p high settings (not ultra!) and you will not crash because you wont reach the 8GB VRAM limitation.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gatto_nero:

weak nvidia gpu with 8gb vram - thats why

Stop blaming everything on VRAM! This port is broken, simple as that. I for example play on 3070 8gb on High/Ultra on 1440p without single crash.
Stop with the VRAM ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

The "VRAM witnesses" are all over the place. Either try to help the person with useful information or don't post same VRAM crap over and over again.

You are either lying or have a very special case scenario. If you are being honest you should send you PC to Naughty Dog for testing because you are probably the only one.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย APA.minds _REDUX:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cylokin:

Stop blaming everything on VRAM! This port is broken, simple as that.

Period

No, there's nothing "period" about any of this. There are many many people with no issues playing the game and there are is so much information out there explaining how to get the game working on your system that it really comes down to your own voluntary ignorance at this point if you are still blaming the game.

[kgkong]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Arokhantos™:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Arc:

I'm yet to kill an SSD that's over 60GB in capacity in 12 years of using multiple ones on daily basis with few dozen GBs written each day.

Even QLC NAND will outlive an entire lifespan of average gaming PC.

As long its not a Samsung ssd that is never updated.

I still have 10+ year old HDDs that have outlived the first generations of SSDs. It's why I was so slow to adopt SSD for OS and storage. Waited out all the early generation challenges and problems.

[Arokhantos]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย KingGorillaKong:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Arokhantos™:

As long its not a Samsung ssd that is never updated.

I still have 10+ year old HDDs that have outlived the first generations of SSDs. It's why I was so slow to adopt SSD for OS and storage. Waited out all the early generation challenges and problems.

ssd's usuaully life longer if they are decent if only had 1 ssd die and a really old samsung 970 with 1 media intergrity error which i turned into external backup drive.

[Cylokin]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mr Pickle:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cylokin:

Stop blaming everything on VRAM! This port is broken, simple as that. I for example play on 3070 8gb on High/Ultra on 1440p without single crash.
Stop with the VRAM ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

The "VRAM witnesses" are all over the place. Either try to help the person with useful information or don't post same VRAM crap over and over again.

You are either lying or have a very special case scenario. If you are being honest you should send you PC to Naughty Dog for testing because you are probably the only one.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย APA.minds _REDUX:

Period

No, there's nothing "period" about any of this. There are many many people with no issues playing the game and there are is so much information out there explaining how to get the game working on your system that it really comes down to your own voluntary ignorance at this point if you are still blaming the game.

Really? I am lying because it doesn't fit your VRAM agenda? No, I am not lying, I have 5600x, 3070, 32gb RAM 3200 mhz, NVME SSD, High/Ultra settings combination, 1440p, DLSS Quality, 60+fps, no crashes at all.
And I know more people even with 3060 Ti that get similar results, so stop acting like my PC performance is magical and rare.

I also finished the game few days ago so can't say how latest patch changes things in any way.

[Cryiox]

Y'all don't need to do magical math for page file, oof.

I have 32 GB RAM, every program closed, and I'm not over allocating VRAM. Game is using 33 GB Page file usually.

On a first game load when you do the shader compilation, page file goes to 55 GB.

I said 60 as a safe, ballpark number.

[kgkong]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cryiox:

Y'all don't need to do magical math for page file, oof.

I have 32 GB RAM, every program closed, and I'm not over allocating VRAM. Game is using 33 GB Page file usually.

On a first game load when you do the shader compilation, page file goes to 55 GB.

I said 60 as a safe, ballpark number.

Windows doesn't always appropriately set the right page file.

[YoLolo69]

I also have an RTX3070 8GB VRAM, a i7 10700K and 32GB RAM. I can play from patch 1.0.2.0 from last friday pretty well. Smooth like butter, no crash, no stutters, nada, perfect. That's at 1440p 60 fps vsync ON. All settings at Ultra but Texture objects Medium, and Characters, Environement and Effects at High. DLSS Quality.
60 fps evrywhere so far and no crash. My friend, who let me play with his account, have the exact same computer (we built it together) and same result, perfect. CPU don't go upper than 55% all cores, GPU oscillate between 70 and 95%, temps stay cool.
No lies, mo magic, just tuned settings. My VRAM appear in menu at 9GB for 8GB available, no issue. Only "problem" is the shaders build (38min) and the very first load game (several minutes too), old HDD so expected. No loading during gameplay.

[Cylokin]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย YoLolo69:

I also have an RTX3070 8GB VRAM, a i7 10700K and 32GB RAM. I can play from patch 1.0.2.0 from last friday pretty well. Smooth like butter, no crash, no stutters, nada, perfect. That's at 1440p 60 fps vsync ON. All settings at Ultra but Texture objects Medium, and Characters, Environement and Effects at High. DLSS Quality.
60 fps evrywhere so far and no crash. My friend, who let me play with his account, have the exact same computer (we built it together) and same result, perfect. CPU don't go upper than 55% all cores, GPU oscillate between 70 and 95%, temps stay cool.
No lies, mo magic, just tuned settings. My VRAM appear in menu at 9GB for 8GB available, no issue. Only "problem" is the shaders build (38min) and the very first load game (several minutes too), old HDD so expected. No loading during gameplay.

Apparently we are lying though.

[YoLolo69]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cylokin:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย YoLolo69:

I also have an RTX3070 8GB VRAM, a i7 10700K and 32GB RAM. I can play from patch 1.0.2.0 from last friday pretty well. Smooth like butter, no crash, no stutters, nada, perfect. That's at 1440p 60 fps vsync ON. All settings at Ultra but Texture objects Medium, and Characters, Environement and Effects at High. DLSS Quality.
60 fps evrywhere so far and no crash. My friend, who let me play with his account, have the exact same computer (we built it together) and same result, perfect. CPU don't go upper than 55% all cores, GPU oscillate between 70 and 95%, temps stay cool.
No lies, mo magic, just tuned settings. My VRAM appear in menu at 9GB for 8GB available, no issue. Only "problem" is the shaders build (38min) and the very first load game (several minutes too), old HDD so expected. No loading during gameplay.

Apparently we are lying though.

I'm uploading 2 videos I just made with my settings and a gameplay for my current save (right after the car crash). At least that could help some open minds ;)

Here it is!

My settings:
https://youtu.be/Rpmo-83wtPQ

Gameplay:
https://youtu.be/MbwbaDED8FA

Ps: I'm not a content creator of any kind, last video I uploaded was years ago ;)

[Spoon]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cylokin:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mr Pickle:

You are either lying or have a very special case scenario. If you are being honest you should send you PC to Naughty Dog for testing because you are probably the only one.



No, there's nothing "period" about any of this. There are many many people with no issues playing the game and there are is so much information out there explaining how to get the game working on your system that it really comes down to your own voluntary ignorance at this point if you are still blaming the game.

Really? I am lying because it doesn't fit your VRAM agenda? No, I am not lying, I have 5600x, 3070, 32gb RAM 3200 mhz, NVME SSD, High/Ultra settings combination, 1440p, DLSS Quality, 60+fps, no crashes at all.
And I know more people even with 3060 Ti that get similar results, so stop acting like my PC performance is magical and rare.

I also finished the game few days ago so can't say how latest patch changes things in any way.

There is no agenda, fool. It's a literal fact that the game runs out of VRAM pretty quickly when you turn up the settings. Good for you you are playing 1440p medium and it's working, try it at Ultra and see what happens. (spolier: you will run out of VRAM and it will crash).

Here, a nice video for you to watch to help with the denial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lHiGlAWxio&t=648s

[Cylokin]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mr Pickle:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cylokin:

Really? I am lying because it doesn't fit your VRAM agenda? No, I am not lying, I have 5600x, 3070, 32gb RAM 3200 mhz, NVME SSD, High/Ultra settings combination, 1440p, DLSS Quality, 60+fps, no crashes at all.
And I know more people even with 3060 Ti that get similar results, so stop acting like my PC performance is magical and rare.

I also finished the game few days ago so can't say how latest patch changes things in any way.

There is no agenda, fool. It's a literal fact that the game runs out of VRAM pretty quickly when you turn up the settings. Good for you you are playing 1440p medium and it's working, try it at Ultra and see what happens. (spolier: you will run out of VRAM and it will crash).

Here, a nice video for you to watch to help with the denial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lHiGlAWxio&t=648s

When someone starts throwing insults, you know they are out of actual arguments. There is no Medium, I already told you what settings I am playing and how it works and that is "literal fact", you can throw 20 videos at me and they wont change how game works on my actual PC no matter how much it doesn't fit your agenda. Especially that video that was already put down by many people how it is very biased.

Spoilers: I am not the one in denial, have a good one, cheers.

[-=BlueGlue=-]

is everyone still using the Nvidia hotfix driver 531.58 or id the new 531.61 ok for the 3070?
Im on call with work so cant play until later :/