The Last of Us™ Part I

The Last of Us™ Part I

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Azrael._.xd 13. maj 2023 kl. 14:24
My CPU's gonna explode
i5 10400F
shader building is done.
in menu my cpu is working like 80% and in game 100%:theskull:
graphic is on high and gpu im using is 2060super
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rocket:
your PC is well within the system requirements, it's a solid mid to high end rig, please ignore the trolls who are just trying to upset you.

This game is still in beta and we are the testers. We all need to learn from this and do not buy future games on release, or until we have seen genuine user reviews.
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Azrael._.xd 15. maj 2023 kl. 4:35 
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i5 10400F
shader building is done.
in menu my cpu is working like 80% and in game 100%:theskull:
graphic is on high and gpu im using is 2060super

I know right. Last night I was compiling the Shaders and my watercooling fans went up to what it sounded like 200%, I honestly have never heard such a high sound, I panicked and closed the game, it wasn't just loud, it felt like the fans would litterally explode.
yea its an issue, don't play till next update. its harming cpu. dont listen to this guy with gaming laptop.
Azrael._.xd 15. maj 2023 kl. 4:38 
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I know right. Last night I was compiling the Shaders and my watercooling fans went up to what it sounded like 200%, I honestly have never heard such a high sound, I panicked and closed the game, it wasn't just loud, it felt like the fans would litterally explode.

you got scared by the fans? panic? xD yeh. the game doesn't care. it takes your hardware and uses all of it if you let it.

i ran a benchtest on my laptop too. over 3 hours heatsoak at max settings. at some point the thermal throttle kicked in big time and fans went 100%. unlucky it was the sniper scene and i was totally focused. it wasn't shocking, but i felt that one. i had to shutdown the game too, ofc. never experienced any thermal blow outs during shader compiling, tho.
first of all dont make fun of peoples emotions toward something; second thing, ggaming laptops always heat and overwork becasue they are weak in general. i played much higher graphic games but didnt have this problem. there is absolutely no reason for a game to use your cpu this much even in menu.
kgkong 15. maj 2023 kl. 5:49 
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you got scared by the fans? panic? xD yeh. the game doesn't care. it takes your hardware and uses all of it if you let it.

i ran a benchtest on my laptop too. over 3 hours heatsoak at max settings. at some point the thermal throttle kicked in big time and fans went 100%. unlucky it was the sniper scene and i was totally focused. it wasn't shocking, but i felt that one. i had to shutdown the game too, ofc. never experienced any thermal blow outs during shader compiling, tho.
first of all dont make fun of peoples emotions toward something; second thing, ggaming laptops always heat and overwork becasue they are weak in general. i played much higher graphic games but didnt have this problem. there is absolutely no reason for a game to use your cpu this much even in menu.
There is. AVX style of processes are specifically designed to capitalize on the available CPU hardware. IE if it's got 8 cores, it's gonna use all those cores. If it's got 16 threads, it's gonna use all 16 of those threads.
The point of the AVX instruction set was to allow developers a means to more efficiently utilize calculation heavy CPU tasks. That's exactly what shader compilation is. It's a type of code compilation, which is a CPU specific task.

On top of that, animation and frame management are also CPU tasks. Draw distance and LOD (Level of Detail) settings are also CPU specific tasks. CPUs suck at raster processing. You know the stuff of drawing and rendering a 2D or 3D image. But telling the game engine or the GPU what detail to load if XYZ object is at ZYX location in the 3D or 2D space is CPU because it's logic calculations.

Gaming is evolving to use 8 core and 16 thread designs now. Single threaded CPU calculations in games only provides a limited range of power. You can only process so many tasks at a time on single core (two threads max so technically only 2 tasks). This is pretty archaic and since CPUs have been designed with 8 cores for the last 10 years now, consumers were getting shafted by developers for the past decade for underutilizing CPU hardware.
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Rocket 15. maj 2023 kl. 8:19 
your PC is well within the system requirements, it's a solid mid to high end rig, please ignore the trolls who are just trying to upset you.

This game is still in beta and we are the testers. We all need to learn from this and do not buy future games on release, or until we have seen genuine user reviews.
_APA [~sudo] 15. maj 2023 kl. 8:30 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rocket:
your PC is well within the system requirements, it's a solid mid to high end rig, please ignore the trolls who are just trying to upset you.

This game is still in beta and we are the testers. We all need to learn from this and do not buy future games on release, or until we have seen genuine user reviews.
LOL i5 10th gen is solid high-end? you got to be joking/trolling right?
Azrael._.xd 15. maj 2023 kl. 8:55 
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LOL i5 10th gen is solid high-end? you got to be joking/trolling right?
mid to high end.
it'll run most modern games without breaking a sweat.

just because you can buy an absolute monster cpu for thousands of dollars, doesn't make other CPU less powerful or capable. you just have extra unnecessary tiers that are 'ultra high end' or some such. Just because some people have more money than sense, doesn't make a decent CPU from a few years ago any worse.
these people so toxic, arguing with them is pointless. probably kids. and yea my pc can run this game atleast at low graphic with no problem. it wasn't like this when the game released. they fix a problem and ruin something else, guess I need to wait for more patches. thanks btw:zaggrin::steamthumbsup:
episoder 15. maj 2023 kl. 8:58 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Zagreus._.xd:
first of all dont make fun of peoples emotions toward something; second thing, ggaming laptops always heat and overwork becasue they are weak in general. i played much higher graphic games but didnt have this problem. there is absolutely no reason for a game to use your cpu this much even in menu.

but it was funny. xD i reckon, dude just never heard his rig at full stress load. so what?!?

and well... it's a big boi laptop. i'm used to shader compiling in unreal engine development. it's getting a lil louder then idle, but is not a big deal. i render and do all sort of graphics stuff on it too, i'm used to it. noise is my friend. :) i never thermal throttled before, tho. that was a first for me too. and... the whole thing runs just for a couple of minutes. if your hardware can't endure that full load stress you specced and built it wrong. once done the menu runs at 30-40% now. on my rig. pretty damn chill.
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Arokhantos 15. maj 2023 kl. 9:38 
Nah its just boosting till it hits power or thermal limit, only have to worry about cpu exploding with 7000 series x3D chips especially with Asus motherboard but also other brand boards when not updated to latest bios fix
alvin 15. maj 2023 kl. 18:09 
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I know right. Last night I was compiling the Shaders and my watercooling fans went up to what it sounded like 200%, I honestly have never heard such a high sound, I panicked and closed the game, it wasn't just loud, it felt like the fans would litterally explode.

you got scared by the fans? panic? xD yeh. the game doesn't care. it takes your hardware and uses all of it if you let it.

i ran a benchtest on my laptop too. over 3 hours heatsoak at max settings. at some point the thermal throttle kicked in big time and fans went 100%. unlucky it was the sniper scene and i was totally focused. it wasn't shocking, but i felt that one. i had to shutdown the game too, ofc. never experienced any thermal blow outs during shader compiling, tho.

Yeah I actually got scared xD. But I just hate crazy ports that just fks up your computer, I've had computers getting destroyed in the past from bad games, I know it's a real phenomena, so I kinda have PTSD. Bluescreens and unexpected shutdowns of your computer can destroy especially HDD's, and sudden temperture spikes and fans going 100% when not been tested 100% for a while can cause malefunction in the fans, that can happen days or weeks afterwards and you forget what the cause was, that's why it's important for games to be in tuned with computers, or your computer will go all over the place. I hate ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ports.
episoder 15. maj 2023 kl. 18:34 
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Yeah I actually got scared xD. But I just hate crazy ports that just fks up your computer, I've had computers getting destroyed in the past from bad games, I know it's a real phenomena, so I kinda have PTSD. Bluescreens and unexpected shutdowns of your computer can destroy especially HDD's, and sudden temperture spikes and fans going 100% when not been tested 100% for a while can cause malefunction in the fans, that can happen days or weeks afterwards and you forget what the cause was, that's why it's important for games to be in tuned with computers, or your computer will go all over the place. I hate ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ports.

it's not a crazy port. it's a software like anything else. ofc it uses your hardware to it's full capabilities, if it's needed. an old cpu gonna be busy. and ofc produce a lot of heat because of the watts it consumes. if your cooling can't keep up you done something wrong while putting the parts together or building it. games don't destroy computers. faulty or low quality components give up under stress. that is what kills it, not the software. if you are all scared about loosing a fan or two. you should not switch on the computer at all.
kgkong 15. maj 2023 kl. 19:36 
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you got scared by the fans? panic? xD yeh. the game doesn't care. it takes your hardware and uses all of it if you let it.

i ran a benchtest on my laptop too. over 3 hours heatsoak at max settings. at some point the thermal throttle kicked in big time and fans went 100%. unlucky it was the sniper scene and i was totally focused. it wasn't shocking, but i felt that one. i had to shutdown the game too, ofc. never experienced any thermal blow outs during shader compiling, tho.

Yeah I actually got scared xD. But I just hate crazy ports that just fks up your computer, I've had computers getting destroyed in the past from bad games, I know it's a real phenomena, so I kinda have PTSD. Bluescreens and unexpected shutdowns of your computer can destroy especially HDD's, and sudden temperture spikes and fans going 100% when not been tested 100% for a while can cause malefunction in the fans, that can happen days or weeks afterwards and you forget what the cause was, that's why it's important for games to be in tuned with computers, or your computer will go all over the place. I hate ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ports.
BSODs and system crashes themselves from a game are seldom problematic. Most antivirus software can detect whether an app or program can be malicious by forcibly screwing with the system any destructive means like this.
Today, on modern hardware, any BSODs and system shutdowns are due to a lack of proper optimizations on the system itself. Of course, repeatedly shutting down for power related reasons is definitely not good on hardware in general though. Always good to make sure your PSU has 150W of spare head room from all your hardware you're running. 250W extra if you're on a 3080, 3080 Ti, 3090, or 3090 Ti in case of transient spikes.
Azrael._.xd 16. maj 2023 kl. 8:06 
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Yeah I actually got scared xD. But I just hate crazy ports that just fks up your computer, I've had computers getting destroyed in the past from bad games, I know it's a real phenomena, so I kinda have PTSD. Bluescreens and unexpected shutdowns of your computer can destroy especially HDD's, and sudden temperture spikes and fans going 100% when not been tested 100% for a while can cause malefunction in the fans, that can happen days or weeks afterwards and you forget what the cause was, that's why it's important for games to be in tuned with computers, or your computer will go all over the place. I hate ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ports.

it's not a crazy port. it's a software like anything else. ofc it uses your hardware to it's full capabilities, if it's needed. an old cpu gonna be busy. and ofc produce a lot of heat because of the watts it consumes. if your cooling can't keep up you done something wrong while putting the parts together or building it. games don't destroy computers. faulty or low quality components give up under stress. that is what kills it, not the software. if you are all scared about loosing a fan or two. you should not switch on the computer at all.
stop fanboying, this game has problems and it can damage the pc in long run. first this port got released I downloaded it and it wasn't using my cpu like this. using cpu this much is a problem.
kgkong 16. maj 2023 kl. 8:21 
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it's not a crazy port. it's a software like anything else. ofc it uses your hardware to it's full capabilities, if it's needed. an old cpu gonna be busy. and ofc produce a lot of heat because of the watts it consumes. if your cooling can't keep up you done something wrong while putting the parts together or building it. games don't destroy computers. faulty or low quality components give up under stress. that is what kills it, not the software. if you are all scared about loosing a fan or two. you should not switch on the computer at all.
stop fanboying, this game has problems and it can damage the pc in long run. first this port got released I downloaded it and it wasn't using my cpu like this. using cpu this much is a problem.
Incorrect. CPUs are designed for full load use. Particularly the last few generations of CPUs specifically with all core workloads.
If your system is being damaged by these workloads, it's a result of inefficient cooling or power issues. Some kind of other actual hardware problem. Inefficient cooling leads to thermal issues. Inefficient power sources can lead to voltage and power problems. Mismatching motherboard and CPUs can also result in issues (too high end of a CPU for a lower end motherboard for example). These are end user configuration problems.

Not to say the game doesn't have its own issues, but what you're describing isn't software/game related. The game is merely just a trigger point making the underlying problem show itself.
episoder 16. maj 2023 kl. 8:26 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Zagreus._.xd:
stop fanboying, this game has problems and it can damage the pc in long run. first this port got released I downloaded it and it wasn't using my cpu like this. using cpu this much is a problem.

i'm not fanboying. i'm just not a tech illiterate. this game does not hurt your hardware. it's stressing it, but the cpu itself got so many safety measures it can literally not die from it. i got a laptop cpu 4600H that is similar to your 10400f. i'm roasting it around 80-90 if it goes all the way in the game. but i know it can deal with it. Tjunction is 105C where it thermal throttles. i thermal throttled my gpu a couple days/weeks ago. that peaks at roughly 90. still not an issue tho. it just throttled. i let it cool and finished the chapter and moved on 1 hour later. wth. no big deal. i for sure know the limit now, i can push it to. that's about hardware.
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