cdkeys - refund

[MacBenS]

i bought it on cdkeys. wrote a refund request and didn't knew you can't get one, once the key is redeemed. what a pity.

[Inferno]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Yes it praises them and also proves they they don't obtain their key legitimately, are you a few screws short or something?

it's not illegitimate to take advantage of regional pricing it's been being done for 100s of years and is completely legal. you would know that if you even bothered reading the article.

[Schoolofmonkey]

I bought my Deluxe version for $49US ($75AUD), even with the state of the game now, I wouldn't stress about refunding it, they will patch the game, all the problems will be addressed, just play something else until they, Dredge is a good time waster, I've been playing that.

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by Inferno:

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Yes it praises them and also proves they they don't obtain their key legitimately, are you a few screws short or something?

it's not illegitimate to take advantage of regional pricing it's been being done for 100s of years and is completely legal. you would know that if you even bothered reading the article.

It is when it violates the publishers EULA, you can't just take someone else's property and use it as you please,.

Even better, contact Sony, tell them where you bought the key and they try and get support, then come back and tell me how legitimate your key is.

[Genthar]

Key resellers include HRK, Instant Gaming, MMOGA and Gamers Outlet among too many others but the main player in this space by far is CDKeys. These people are known for taking keys out of retail copies of games in countries (such as the third world where optical media is still used) and re-sell them to you (as you don't need the disc obviously) to redeem them on whatever store. The publisher will get X-amount as much they would have got from a boxed copy sale in the region it was for, which is almost always less than direct from the distribution platform where the key is eventually redeemed.

While it's amazingly not actually "illegal", it is morally dubious Basically you are paying the third world price of a game, set by the publisher to be deliberately low to be afforded by people in a region where the equivalent price in the West could be more than a week's wages!! This eventually causes the price of the games in that region to rise and prohibit its affordability by many. Additionally due to the regional nature of the purchase you can run into issues with the key not working.

It hasn't been done yet, but I hope publishers will take significant steps to prevent this practice before long.

[Sqrly]

Originally posted by Sweet:

i bought it on cdkeys. wrote a refund request and didn't knew you can't get one, once the key is redeemed. what a pity.

Odd, it seems you can write but apparently you can't read? Perhaps it's just a case of apathy.

I've purchased a few Steam games from CDKeys myself, and it very clearly states no refunds.

[Inferno]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Inferno:

it's not illegitimate to take advantage of regional pricing it's been being done for 100s of years and is completely legal. you would know that if you even bothered reading the article.

It is when it violates the publishers EULA, you can't just take someone else's property and use it as you please,.

Ok show me in the Eula where it says you can't take advantage of regionally priced keys and sell them. Link it and quote it.

edit: let me get you started, here is the link to the eula https://www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/op-eula/

I'll also warn you their is no mention of any "key" or "code" in reference to a download code. because it's not against the eula.

[IPlayGamesOnPC]

Originally posted by Whi$tl3®:

Kinda self-explanatory.
If you redeem a key, it's used and can't be resold. That's why you can't get a refund from buying keys from the grey market.

Bying from steam or similar is different. The key can be revoked, and therefore you can request a refund and lose access to the game on steam.

Redeeming a cdkey binds that key to your account, and the seller has no way to revoke that key.

That's because cdkeys is garbage. I bought a key on Fanatical that I wanted to refund and of course couldn't because I already redeemed it, so instead they gave me another game of my choosing for free.

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by Inferno:

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

It is when it violates the publishers EULA, you can't just take someone else's property and use it as you please,.

Ok show me in the Eula where it says you can't take advantage of regionally priced keys and sell them. Link it and quote it.

Literally the 6th element in the EULA.....

6. Resale

6.1. You must not resell games licensed under these Terms unless expressly authorised by us.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/legal/application-terms-of-use-for-pc-and-mobile/

[Inferno]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Inferno:

Ok show me in the Eula where it says you can't take advantage of regionally priced keys and sell them. Link it and quote it.

Literally the 6th element in the EULA.....

6. Resale

6.1. You must not resell games licensed under these Terms unless expressly authorised by us.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/legal/application-terms-of-use-for-pc-and-mobile/

3. When do these Software Usage Terms apply?

3.1. Our Software Usage Terms (the “Terms”) apply to your use of all Software on Authorised Systems.

3.2. These Terms are between you and us and not the owner of the store (the “Store Owner”) through which you purchased the Software (the “Software Store”).

Fun fact 3.2 exempts cdkeys.com and 3.1 also states you have to use their software for the terms to apply (which cdkeys doesn't) . Also not all things in eulas are enforceable so you also need to prove that they can legally enforce it.

[TheReelReese]

I always say: buy on Steam first, play less than 2 hours, if you like it… THEN buy a cheaper Steam Key for it. There are no refunds.

[RaWrAgExLOL]

Originally posted by Inferno:

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Enjoy the read.

https://thelegality.com/is-cdkeys-legit/

So I'm guessing you didn't read what you posted because here is some quotes from that article.

"CDkeys.com is legit in every meaning of the word. Both from a “working as intended” and “legality” type of perspective."

"Is CDkeys legit? Yes. No question about it. They are a reliable and trustworthy platform for finding cheap game keys. If you have no problems with going gray-market with your game purchases, you might as well go with cdkeys.com."

"I have had nothing but positive experiences with them, and my online research showed that many others share my experiences. In an online world full of black market stores masquerading as gray-market stores, CDkeys stands out for its transparency and legitimacy."


Next time you provide "evidence" make sure to actually read it first.

Yeah I think you need to re-read what you posted or at least understand its meaning. This in no way suggests that CDKeys are dodgy in any sense, this mostly states other key sellers as dodgy such as G2A but regarding CDKeys they are legit and legally acquire their keys from 3rd world countries and resell them at a higher price, not dodgy or illegal. Also if you Google it you will find that practically every article you'll find states they are safe, legit and the best way to get games cheap. This article means absolutely nothing.

It literally does not matter if they are a grey market, nothing illegal about that and as long as they are authorised to resell the keys they obtain then they are not breaking any laws regarding EULA. That is something we will not know but considering that they are a well established business that's been doing this for about over 10 years or maybe longer without issue then it would be safe to assume that they are given permission to do so otherwise they would have received cease and desist orders from the likes of steam, Sony, Microsoft and so on.

[notSure]

if you want a refund option in the back you buy from steam lol

[Swamp Fox]

Makes sense...Same person who actually buys The Last of Us at full retail, 10 years after release, is the type of person who thinks you would EVER get a refund on a redeemed CD key.

Next you should go to a restaurant, eat all of your food, and say you didn't like it and request a refund. I'm sure they will give you one.

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Inferno:

Ok show me in the Eula where it says you can't take advantage of regionally priced keys and sell them. Link it and quote it.

Literally the 6th element in the EULA.....

6. Resale

6.1. You must not resell games licensed under these Terms unless expressly authorised by us.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/legal/application-terms-of-use-for-pc-and-mobile/

EULA are not in any way binding to the user. It's for show.

[Erik_NYC]

thanks for the explanation. my question is: i am the only one who at least tried to get a refund from cdkeys or is there somebody else too?

Im going through the hurdle now. I contacted Paypal and waiting for closure.

I dont want the game. I won't make purchases outside of Steam going forward.