Game is unplayable even with decent rig

[Gil]

Specs:
Ryzen 7 5800x3D (cooled with 240 rad)
RX 7900XT
32gbs 3600mhz ram
2tb m.2 NVME SSD
B450 Tomahawk MAX
1000 Watt EVGA PSU

Im playing the game at 1440p, capped 70 fps and for some reason, the game refuses to run at smoothly. Im in the first mission after the prologue and anytime Im in an area with enemies, the game refuses to run at 70fps. It will shoot all the way down to ~48 fps and then run choppily between 28-52 fps. My problem is that Im not even using crazy settings. I generally dont like playing with ultra or maxed setting and usually play with a mix of high and medium settings.

My drivers are up to date, I've verified my game files, Ive started a new playthrough. Neither my GPU or CPU are being bottlenecked, both are running anywhere from 40-55% utilization, temps for both are between 40-67c, Im not running with any other tasks in the background, Ive tried turning off certain settings, Ive tried playing at both the highest and the lowest settings, none of my components have overclocks except for my ram which is running a manufacturer XMP profile, and Im running a custom fan curve in AMD's adrenaline software. literally nothing is working and I cant enjoy this game.

I never have issues with my system in any other games I play, and I play pretty demanding games. It is just this one. Im beginning to lose my patience and Im about to just give up on replaying it. I've seen others claim they play it flawlessly with no issues, what am I doing wrong?

[Gil]

I should also preface this post by saying that I have screenshots of my HWinfo and task manager info. If it's necessary, Ill post it.

[animal_PLANET]

Here are some suggestions that should help improve performance for you. May seem like a lot but they all take a couple of minutes to do, and you obviously dont have to try all of them. But this is the easiest and quickest things to troubleshoot computer to try and mitigate those drops.

Check on HAGS (Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling). This should be disabled. If you are using FG in any game. It will have to be enabled again.

What I would suggest is run DDU and than install latest AMD display driver for your GPU. You may want to try without installing Adrenaline software, and just install the driver. If you do install it. Make sure to keep at all defaults.

Running DDU will remove previous driver/s completely and ensure a clean install. Like its being done for the first time on a newly installed OS. Just note that all control panel (app)/monitor settings will be reset. Shaders will have to be compiled again for games after doing this method.

Here is link for DDU. Make sure to read/follow guide if unfamiliar. Its in the link. https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5257

Once cleaned and display driver has been installed successfully. Reboot the PC even if not prompted.

Try a clean boot by disabling all non essential services, programs and tasks from starting with PC. So use services (services app or system configuration app), tasks (task scheduler app, select task scheduler library), and startup items (task manager) to disable them. This will help free up system resources in general.

Check all 3 areas. If anyone is enabled that software will run and could be causing conflicts with the game. Like some Razer software or GPU monitoring software can cause issues with performance and crashes in some games.

It would also be good to disable Windows Game mode, Game Bar, and captures. If you using any other game recording like OBS or NVIDIA APP (GeForce Experience), it would be good to disable them as well.

If you use an anti-virus, windows security, or data protection. Make exceptions to your game folders. This way it disables the scans and doesnt conflict with your games. Which will also help free up system resources.

Disable fast startup. Found in the control panel, and going to power options, than select choose what the power buttons do. I would also disable any sleep or hibernation modes.

You may need to go to the advanced power settings found in the plan settings to make sure the hard drive doesnt turn off. Maybe causing an issue here for whatever reason if any of that is enabled.

You can also do an SFC (system file checker) scan to check for errors with windows. Open command prompt as admin and type this:

sfc /scannow

It will scan and repair system files. Run it twice.

The next thing you can try is to increase your page file (Virtual Memory). Since you have 32 GB of RAM. Your page file should be at least 24 GB, and should be set on an SSD/s. HDD's are too slow for this if needed for gaming. So dont use a HDD if you have any installed.

Check to make sure your motherboard's BIOS is up to date. If a BIOS update is available make sure to default all settings first, and than apply the update. Once update has successfully installed, set the correct XMP/EXPO profile if supported. Try the game again and see if it helps.

[Gil]

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Here are some suggestions that should help improve performance for you. May seem like a lot but they all take a couple of minutes to do, and you obviously dont have to try all of them. But this is the easiest and quickest things to troubleshoot computer to try and mitigate those drops.

Check on HAGS (Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling). This should be disabled. If you are using FG in any game. It will have to be enabled again.

What I would suggest is run DDU and than install latest AMD display driver for your GPU. You may want to try without installing Adrenaline software, and just install the driver. If you do install it. Make sure to keep at all defaults.

Running DDU will remove previous driver/s completely and ensure a clean install. Like its being done for the first time on a newly installed OS. Just note that all control panel (app)/monitor settings will be reset. Shaders will have to be compiled again for games after doing this method.

Here is link for DDU. Make sure to read/follow guide if unfamiliar. Its in the link. https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5257

Once cleaned and display driver has been installed successfully. Reboot the PC even if not prompted.

Try a clean boot by disabling all non essential services, programs and tasks from starting with PC. So use services (services app or system configuration app), tasks (task scheduler app, select task scheduler library), and startup items (task manager) to disable them. This will help free up system resources in general.

Check all 3 areas. If anyone is enabled that software will run and could be causing conflicts with the game. Like some Razer software or GPU monitoring software can cause issues with performance and crashes in some games.

It would also be good to disable Windows Game mode, Game Bar, and captures. If you using any other game recording like OBS or NVIDIA APP (GeForce Experience), it would be good to disable them as well.

If you use an anti-virus, windows security, or data protection. Make exceptions to your game folders. This way it disables the scans and doesnt conflict with your games. Which will also help free up system resources.

Disable fast startup. Found in the control panel, and going to power options, than select choose what the power buttons do. I would also disable any sleep or hibernation modes.

You may need to go to the advanced power settings found in the plan settings to make sure the hard drive doesnt turn off. Maybe causing an issue here for whatever reason if any of that is enabled.

You can also do an SFC (system file checker) scan to check for errors with windows. Open command prompt as admin and type this:

sfc /scannow

It will scan and repair system files. Run it twice.

The next thing you can try is to increase your page file (Virtual Memory). Since you have 32 GB of RAM. Your page file should be at least 24 GB, and should be set on an SSD/s. HDD's are too slow for this if needed for gaming. So dont use a HDD if you have any installed.

Check to make sure your motherboard's BIOS is up to date. If a BIOS update is available make sure to default all settings first, and than apply the update. Once update has successfully installed, set the correct XMP/EXPO profile if supported. Try the game again and see if it helps.

Thanks for your comment! I tried all of these except for the clean boot. I did manage to fix it but now im struggling with a different issue. I downloaded DDU and reinstalled my video drivers. Unfortunately, while it did manage to bring my FPS to a more stable area, I cannot, no matter what settings I try get above 60 fps. Prior to doing this, I could manage 70+ fps no problem, my issues would come when interacting with populated zones. Now I can't even break 60 fps and my fps fluctuates between 50-60. Not sure what the issue is now, but Ill continue to tinker with it. Thanks!

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by Gil:

Thanks for your comment! I tried all of these except for the clean boot. I did manage to fix it but now im struggling with a different issue. I downloaded DDU and reinstalled my video drivers. Unfortunately, while it did manage to bring my FPS to a more stable area, I cannot, no matter what settings I try get above 60 fps. Prior to doing this, I could manage 70+ fps no problem, my issues would come when interacting with populated zones. Now I can't even break 60 fps and my fps fluctuates between 50-60. Not sure what the issue is now, but Ill continue to tinker with it. Thanks!

Did you run DDU in safe mode with no internet until after the driver was installed? As this sounds like a driver conflict. Read the DDU guide, and run it again.

Delete this file:
%USERPROFILE%\Saved Games\The Last of Us Part I\users\<user-id>\screeninfo.cfg

And this one:
%USERPROFILE%\Saved Games\The Last of Us Part I\graphics-settings.txt

This will force game to start at default settings. Or try to reset them via the settings option in game again. See if it helps.

NP and GL.

[TM2P]

Certain sections of the game doesn't fully utilize the gpu/cpu properly such as Boston and later sections. You can try disabling rebar to get consistent fps but it is unstable and avg fps can be lower.

Part 2 runs waaay better in comparison with rebar enabled so its not a hardware issue.

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by TM2P:

Certain sections of the game doesn't fully utilize the gpu/cpu properly such as Boston and later sections. You can try disabling rebar to get consistent fps but it is unstable and avg fps can be lower.

Part 2 runs waaay better in comparison with rebar enabled so its not a hardware issue.

I had zero issues in any part of the game. Ran no problem and fully utilized my system throughout. Seems like an issue with your PC.

[TM2P]

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Originally posted by TM2P:

Certain sections of the game doesn't fully utilize the gpu/cpu properly such as Boston and later sections. You can try disabling rebar to get consistent fps but it is unstable and avg fps can be lower.

Part 2 runs waaay better in comparison with rebar enabled so its not a hardware issue.

I had zero issues in any part of the game. Ran no problem and fully utilized my system throughout. Seems like an issue with your PC.

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Well my specs are a Ryzen 5700x3d, RX 6700xt 12gb vram and 32 gb 3200 ram and have no problem in Part 2 which has the same engine. Plus its been posted multiple times here that its an issue with rebar which also happened in TLOU2 that was patched later on which is why it runs more smoothly than this.

What are your specs btw if you claim its a good port.

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Originally posted by TM2P:

Certain sections of the game doesn't fully utilize the gpu/cpu properly such as Boston and later sections. You can try disabling rebar to get consistent fps but it is unstable and avg fps can be lower.

Part 2 runs waaay better in comparison with rebar enabled so its not a hardware issue.

I had zero issues in any part of the game. Ran no problem and fully utilized my system throughout. Seems like an issue with your PC.

Before starting TLOU part 2 I had a full run TLOU Part 1 4k native and a mix high/very high settings, SAM (smart access memory=rebar) enabled with an RX 7900XT/Ryzen 7800 X3d. Very smooth, very fun. In some sections FPS would go down to 55 average with lows still at 50 or so FPS, most sections stayed at solid 60-70 FPS average (70 FPS cap). All with a smooth frametime.

Except the area with the rushing water/Ellie swimming like a brick scene at the end of the game before the Firefly pick up. This area (only this area) was very choppy with lows >25 FPS for some reason. Once cleared everything was smooth again.

With the hardware of OP and only 1440P resolution the game should be no issue whatsoever, easily capable of 90-100+ FPS.


TLOU 2 is running noticeably better overall it must be said.

[TM2P]

Originally posted by Zephyr:

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

I had zero issues in any part of the game. Ran no problem and fully utilized my system throughout. Seems like an issue with your PC.

Before starting TLOU part 2 I had a full run TLOU Part 1 4k native and a mix high/very high settings, SAM (smart access memory=rebar) enabled with an RX 7900XT/Ryzen 7800 X3d. Very smooth, very fun. In some sections FPS would go down to 55 average with lows still at 50 or so FPS, most sections stayed at solid 60-70 FPS average (70 FPS cap). All with a smooth frametime.

Except the area with the rushing water/Ellie swimming like a brick scene at the end of the game before the Firefly pick up. This area (only this area) was very choppy with lows >25 FPS for some reason. Once cleared everything was smooth again.

With the hardware of OP and only 1440P resolution the game should be no issue whatsoever, easily capable of 90-100+ FPS.


TLOU 2 is running noticeably better overall it must be said.

Yep that tunnel where Ellie/Joel get swept away was a slideshow for me as well. It also happened during the chase sequence where you avoid the armored car at night.

Boston dockyards still have fps drops and it also happened in large firefights like when you encounter a large group of hunters hanging a dude off a tree.

Funnily enough those drops didn't happen with rebar disabled on my 6700xt but it was very unstable and I had to use FSR3 quality to get a locked 60 but it introduced a lot of weird lighting artifacts

[A TIN OF JAR]

Originally posted by Gil:

Neither my GPU or CPU are being bottlenecked, both are running anywhere from 40-55% utilization

The GPU should ideally be at 100% utilisation. I'm am on 25.4.1 display driver playing at 1440p max settings with FSR 4 at quality and average 130 fps.

My GPU is at a solid 100% utilisation while playing, My CPU is around 80% utilisation.

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by TM2P:

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

I had zero issues in any part of the game. Ran no problem and fully utilized my system throughout. Seems like an issue with your PC.

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Well my specs are a Ryzen 5700x3d, RX 6700xt 12gb vram and 32 gb 3200 ram and have no problem in Part 2 which has the same engine. Plus its been posted multiple times here that its an issue with rebar which also happened in TLOU2 that was patched later on which is why it runs more smoothly than this.

What are your specs btw if you claim its a good port.

Part 2 was designed for PS4. Of course it will run better. But Nixxes also added direct storage and optimized the game a bit better for PC. So yea, it should run better since the engine was made specifically for an older console.

A game made for PS4 should run better on PC than a game made for the PS5. Kind of a no brainer here. PS5 has much better hardware.

My specs are on my profile if you want to know.

[TM2P]

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Originally posted by TM2P:

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Well my specs are a Ryzen 5700x3d, RX 6700xt 12gb vram and 32 gb 3200 ram and have no problem in Part 2 which has the same engine. Plus its been posted multiple times here that its an issue with rebar which also happened in TLOU2 that was patched later on which is why it runs more smoothly than this.

What are your specs btw if you claim its a good port.

Part 2 was designed for PS4. Of course it will run better. But Nixxes also added direct storage and optimized the game a bit better for PC. So yea, it should run better since the engine was made specifically for an older console.

A game made for PS4 should run better on PC than a game made for the PS5. Kind of a no brainer here. PS5 has much better hardware.

My specs are on my profile if you want to know.

They share the same engine. If they added async compute and direct storage while fixing various lighting issues this would really help.

Your various replies on posts with amd hardware with your nvidia card isn't exactly helpful. Even one thread you replied to had no useful tips except rebar which I mentioned that actually solved the performance problems since that user was on an amd card.

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by TM2P:

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Part 2 was designed for PS4. Of course it will run better. But Nixxes also added direct storage and optimized the game a bit better for PC. So yea, it should run better since the engine was made specifically for an older console.

A game made for PS4 should run better on PC than a game made for the PS5. Kind of a no brainer here. PS5 has much better hardware.

My specs are on my profile if you want to know.

They share the same engine. If they added async compute and direct storage while fixing various lighting issues this would really help.

Your various replies on posts with amd hardware with your nvidia card isn't exactly helpful. Even one thread you replied to had no useful tips except rebar which I mentioned that actually solved the performance problems since that user was on an amd card.

Its not exactly the same engine. It is ND proprietary, but the tools were updated for better PS5 support. Thats why TLOU 1 looks better than the sequel. Even in distances which really shows.

Not sure why you keep reverting to TLOU2. Again wrong forum. But ReBar isnt only used on AMD and NVIDIA users also suffered from that bug. Which was patched weeks ago. Its no longer a talking point. Old news.

[TM2P]

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Originally posted by TM2P:

They share the same engine. If they added async compute and direct storage while fixing various lighting issues this would really help.

Your various replies on posts with amd hardware with your nvidia card isn't exactly helpful. Even one thread you replied to had no useful tips except rebar which I mentioned that actually solved the performance problems since that user was on an amd card.

Its not exactly the same engine. It is ND proprietary, but the tools were updated for better PS5 support. Thats why TLOU 1 looks better than the sequel. Even in distances which really shows.

Not sure why you keep reverting to TLOU2. Again wrong forum. But ReBar isnt only used on AMD and NVIDIA users also suffered from that bug. Which was patched weeks ago. Its no longer a talking point. Old news.

Rebar has a big performance impact on amd gpus where its not working properly here. It got fixed in TLOU2, its fixable in TLOU1.

Still doesn't explain why you're dismissing amd performance issues when you're on an nvidia card.

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by TM2P:

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Its not exactly the same engine. It is ND proprietary, but the tools were updated for better PS5 support. Thats why TLOU 1 looks better than the sequel. Even in distances which really shows.

Not sure why you keep reverting to TLOU2. Again wrong forum. But ReBar isnt only used on AMD and NVIDIA users also suffered from that bug. Which was patched weeks ago. Its no longer a talking point. Old news.

Rebar has a big performance impact on amd gpus where its not working properly here. It got fixed in TLOU2, its fixable in TLOU1.

Still doesn't explain why you're dismissing amd performance issues when you're on an nvidia card.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/1ekl41e/resizable_bar_on_or_off_tlou_part_1_rx_6800_low/

"Thanks for the clarification , turned it back on and as you said ive got more FPS with 99% gpu load gonna leave it on as this is my first amd GPU coming from rtx 2060 as 6800 was a steal on sale"

Again, for the last time. If people are having issues with this game, its due to their PC. Has nothing to do with NVIDIA or AMD> Just stop.