The Last of Us™ Part I

The Last of Us™ Part I

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How woke is this from 1 to 10?
is it horizon levels of woke, or life is strange 2 levels of woke?
I don't mind a little, just not too much, and it's hard to judge from internet outrage.

edit: I wish I could delete this thread :(

Edit 2: it became an off-topic circle jerk of people pretending they have an enemy so they can masturbate together in a circle watching each other and in some case watching mirrors (looking at you james). and now in my 9000 IQ move, I'm writing this sentence hoping a mod will delete this thread and ban me from this forum, as I'm not coming back.
Even if the game was as good as people say, this community is almost as awful as undertale's community.
Naposledy upravil Coffee Break Hero; 24. čvn. 2023 v 12.04
Původně napsal TheReelReese:
Coffee Break Hero původně napsal:
Alright.
I finished the game on grounded!

Was an OK time.

Gameplay was pretty basic. I guess it aged. Quite simplistic.

Story and worldbuilding were very basic. Writing was really bad, for me (subjective I know).
So many things in the story felt like their entire purpose is to be an emotional gut punch, it just lost any sense of "this world is real". Like, when you meet someone and you guess they're gonna die soon... and you're always right... it feels pretty stupid. and those recordings in the end part of the game that made no sense existing other then to make you feel bad about what you're railroaded into doing... and you don't even have a choice. Even if the game offered choices and consequences and was an RPG it would have been just as bad because the author is signaling so hard what he thinks is right.
AND IT TAKES ITSELF SO SERIOUSLY
Exceptional acting though. Actors and animators carried the game hard. Except Ellie sometimes sounds way too mature. I blame the writing though. feels like self insert conversations with parents (what an adult wishes he said to their parents as a teen)

Game wasn't very woke at all by the way.

I refuse to award you with points, so here you go: 🤡
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Coffee Break Hero původně napsal:
I wouldn't say I'm conservative.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to admit it either. Maybe that's your first clue that your views require some reflection.

Coffee Break Hero původně napsal:
what do you mean not the right game? I think you simply don't remember the scene I'm referring to.

The scene you describe isn't in the prologue of this game, and it wouldn't matter if it was. You claimed that you saw a scene of people being executed and then correctly guessed that one of those people would be executed, and that this somehow validated your belief that gender or "emotional manipulation" has anything to do with being woke.

Coffee Break Hero původně napsal:
I hate how you cut half of my sentence to give it a different meaning, and you even had the odacity to put quotation marks on a false quote. you are literally putting words into my mouth.

The portion I quoted literally ends with a period. I didn't cut off anything. That it looks ridiculous when quoted back to you should be your first clue that it's... ridiculous.

Hopefully this time when I click "unsubscribe", Steam remembers it, because you are utterly exhausting, homie. Have a real one. Peace
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Just Chill původně napsal:
Ben Shapiro is jewish too. :awkward:
what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ argument.
he's a conservative, and not a nazi.
I'm neither a conservative nor a nazi.
and you two are bullies.

I didn't mean to make an "argument". I just stated a fact. :awkward:
Just Chill původně napsal:
Coffee Break Hero původně napsal:
what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ argument.
he's a conservative, and not a nazi.
I'm neither a conservative nor a nazi.
and you two are bullies.

I didn't mean to make an "argument". I just stated a fact. :awkward:
the sky is blue
Exactly.
Just Chill původně napsal:
Ben Shapiro is jewish too. :awkward:

Imagine, using Identity as a shield from bad takes.
I wish there was a word for it.
IdPol.
Naposledy upravil LeftIsBest-James; 18. čvn. 2023 v 2.16
"I'm not a conservative"
"I'm a western traditionalist libertarian common-sense concerned citizen blah blah blah"
* when they relabel, it means they're far worse than the label("conservative") they're escaping


1. Ignore their self-Label
2. Look at what they support.
3. Match it up with a Label from history that fits this ideology.
Naposledy upravil LeftIsBest-James; 18. čvn. 2023 v 2.29
just an e.g.: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/reactionary-feminism-differences-between-sexes/674447/

Just a reminder that life is complicated, people are complicated, and value systems can contain many different imperatives... and that there are people in the world that are neither far right nor far left.

Just like praise and criticism of this game can include many different dimensions, and in them many different levels of objective and subjective arguments which interact with each other, and with us.

Even the point I made about the game that I feel most strongly about, that it manipulates the player into cheap broad feelings, may be considered positive by some. some people, especially in the context of tv watching, want to be manipulated into feeling things and don't care or even notice what is to me an immersion breaking quality of a one dimension optimized plot.

TLDR: stop dividing people into two groups.
Naposledy upravil Coffee Break Hero; 18. čvn. 2023 v 9.44
Coffee Break Hero původně napsal:
just an e.g.: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/reactionary-feminism-differences-between-sexes/674447/

Just a reminder that life is complicated, people are complicated, and value systems can contain many different imperatives... and that there are people in the world that are neither far right nor far left.

Just like praise and criticism of this game can include many different dimensions, and in them many different levels of objective and subjective arguments which interact with each other, and with us.

Even the point I made about the game that I feel most strongly about, that it manipulates the player into cheap broad feelings, may be considered positive by some. some people, especially in the context of tv watching, want to be manipulated into feeling things and don't care or even notice what is to me an immersion breaking quality of a one dimension optimized plot.

TLDR: stop dividing people into two groups.
:steamthis: Low brow Transphobic article. (everyone expected this) :steamthis:
It cites from an author who wrote: "The Case Against the Sexual Revolution"
Catnip for bitter impotent reactionaries.

The people who are obsessed at "body-parts belong to who" are TradCons/TradWives.
The people who dictate; "you have ovaries" and then spew rules based on that:
- barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen
- lower pay
- "why don't you work on an oilrig then"
- do the housework for the man

The "know your place, woman" type.


Naposledy upravil LeftIsBest-James; 18. čvn. 2023 v 10.53
wow you think the Atlantic is transphobic
Coffee Break Hero původně napsal:
wow you think the Atlantic is transphobic
I don't judge the source. I judge the article (unless it's Breitbart)
I'll leave the "prejudice"-stuff to you.
RageMojo 18. čvn. 2023 v 11.14 
Coffee Break Hero původně napsal:
Even the point I made about the game that I feel most strongly about, that it manipulates the player into cheap broad feelings, may be considered positive by some. some people, especially in the context of tv watching, want to be manipulated into feeling things and don't care or even notice what is to me an immersion breaking quality of a one dimension optimized plot.

Please read your own words and realize this expresses bigotry. This is literally how story telling works.

Arthur Morgan has a side love interest that many could be considered tacked on, no controversy because it is hetro. Neko Bellic tries to bed everything in Liberty City, trivial female love interest gets gunned down, no one shouting about forced emotions being shoved in their face. I could go on and on and on.

You clearly are not happy that other types of people exist. So you have to judge how much you can tolerate. Lesbian pron hub is good, Ellie crushing on another girl is a political agenda. But if Ellie was crushing on hetro white guy, no issue.

Do you have any ability to reason at all anymore? Likely not, and you know why? You made this BS a part of who you are. This isn't "politics" for you, it is a part of your personality now.

However, no matter how much people like you insist these are all a differences of opinion and political, the rational among us will not tolerate your passive hatred goose stepping us to disaster of biblical proportions. Some of us insist on the fulfillment of the Constitution for everyone, not just those who can afford it or game the system.
RageMojo původně napsal:
Coffee Break Hero původně napsal:
Even the point I made about the game that I feel most strongly about, that it manipulates the player into cheap broad feelings, may be considered positive by some. some people, especially in the context of tv watching, want to be manipulated into feeling things and don't care or even notice what is to me an immersion breaking quality of a one dimension optimized plot.

Please read your own words and realize this expresses bigotry. This is literally how story telling works.

Arthur Morgan has a side love interest that many could be considered tacked on, no controversy because it is hetro. Neko Bellic tries to bed everything in Liberty City, trivial female love interest gets gunned down, no one shouting about forced emotions being shoved in their face. I could go on and on and on.

You clearly are not happy that other types of people exist. So you have to judge how much you can tolerate. Lesbian pron hub is good, Ellie crushing on another girl is a political agenda. But if Ellie was crushing on hetro white guy, no issue.

Do you have any ability to reason at all anymore? Likely not, and you know why? You made this BS a part of who you are. This isn't "politics" for you, it is a part of your personality now.

However, no matter how much people like you insist these are all a differences of opinion and political, the rational among us will not tolerate your passive hatred goose stepping us to disaster of biblical proportions. Some of us insist on the fulfillment of the Constitution for everyone, not just those who can afford it or game the system.

1. "So much for the tolerant-Left" (I have no time for fascists and transphobes)
2. 1/6 genZ are non-hetro. The number MAY rise - until it reaches it's natural occurance. (Ellie liking Reilly isn't political.)
3. "the rational among us will not tolerate your passive hatred": .....
- desegrergation
- feminism
- homosexuality
- trans
- Just take the L
Naposledy upravil LeftIsBest-James; 18. čvn. 2023 v 11.26
When they say so much for the tolerant left, i laugh heartily and provide them the Tolerance Paradox.

They also dont know about the American Dixiecrat flip.
Naposledy upravil RageMojo; 18. čvn. 2023 v 11.29
It's genuinely puzzling how some people call something "woke" if there is at least one character who is not white or straight. What's the exact size of the bubble they live in? Some might say that these posts are just bait, but I don't think they are. There is just too many of them.
Naposledy upravil Benjamin Dean; 18. čvn. 2023 v 14.36
CRAZED MERC původně napsal:
ellie's lesbo, ellie kisses a girl, bill is gay. thats about it from my own memory.

that in no way is woke though.
Woke is when you show the struggles of a minority. Theres like actually next to no woke in this game. And if there was, woke aint bad. Unless its preachy woke. Which evven then if a character A SINGLE ONE is meant to be super cringe about it. Its fine, but when the entire game is preachy and series, then it isnt.
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