Performance?

[Moonvalley]

My new pc is on the way, what performance can i expect in this?

Rtx 4060 8gb
Ryzen 7700
16gb ddr5

[Mirona]

your 8gb of vram will not do well with 1440p or higher. 1080p advised. dlss also helps. max setting wastes performance for minor visual improvements. using some optimised settings guides helps alot. doing that will range you in the 50-90 fps range. mostly 60-80. the games first area (escape) is propably the heaviest area in terms of performance so dont worry too much about the start of the game. the game also depending on how sensitive you are and if you are playing on mouse can feel juttery at times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2AmX44gTpY (not my video)

you dont have to follow this and should make your own decision from your observations and needs but using this guide as a referance point will help you get a better experience

even though there is in this forum a fanboy police that will jump into action the moment someone critiques this game, be aware with this game some people run into problems. they patched it alot and improvements were made but many consider this game abandoned and not fully fixed before doing so. it depends alot on your expectations and how sensitive you are to frametime spikes and input devices. some dont even get the game running. be it their fault or not i wont make that judgement

after launching the game for the first time the game does something called "shader compilation". let that finish before you do anything else. shader compiling is a heavy task so dont be suprised if your pc gets loud while it does that. it should take around 10 minutes. i would advice let shaders compile. restart game. do optimiesed settings. restart game. then play

make sure your gpu driver and such are up to date (before starting the game and compiling shaders). updating drivers makes the game do the task of compiling shaders again

lastly even though enough for this game the first thing i would upgrade with your pc would be to double your ram to 32gb

[lordmaik]

why still buying 16 gb. my ram usage in tlou is 17gb with all non neccessery background processes closed. 8gb vram is ok if you are going to play in 1080p

[Cryiox]

1080p60, DLSS2 Quality, maxed out (Texture Streaming: Normal). Flawless performance
Alternatively with the LukeFZ FSR3 Frame Gen mod, you can get 1080p120.

[WeirdScienceX]

Originally posted by Moonvalley:

My new pc is on the way, what performance can i expect in this?

Rtx 4060 8gb
Ryzen 7700
16gb ddr5

Okay, why are you buying AM5 platform therefore future proofing your PC but then buying an 8Gb graphic card which is the min needed for current games but most need more.

[Moonvalley]

Originally posted by WeirdScienceX:

Originally posted by Moonvalley:

My new pc is on the way, what performance can i expect in this?

Rtx 4060 8gb
Ryzen 7700
16gb ddr5

Okay, why are you buying AM5 platform therefore future proofing your PC but then buying an 8Gb graphic card which is the min needed for current games but most need more.

Because i can?

Any game that uses more than 8gb of vram is poorly designed and i will acquire from the high seas if it's cracked.

I try to not support lazy devs.

[Moonvalley]

Originally posted by lordmaik:

why still buying 16 gb. my ram usage in tlou is 17gb with all non neccessery background processes closed. 8gb vram is ok if you are going to play in 1080p

I have an LG C2 Oled tv.

Apparently whoever ported this game lacked talent. Oh well.

[Mirona]

Originally posted by Moonvalley:

Originally posted by lordmaik:

why still buying 16 gb. my ram usage in tlou is 17gb with all non neccessery background processes closed. 8gb vram is ok if you are going to play in 1080p

I have an LG C2 Oled tv.

Apparently whoever ported this game lacked talent. Oh well.

4k with that gpu maybe mid to low setting and a 30 fps cap. dunno to be honest. gotta try. when using a 30 fps cap i highly recommend using a controller and motion blur. starting from 60 a mouse can be much more fun though. but a mouse at 30 is pain imho

the game can look stunning at times and can run well on strong hardware but for a game that came originally from the ps3 the game does not scale well down and compared to a ps5 needs alot of horsepower to match a ps5. i dont want to start an argument about how well the game is made but for many people the situation could be better. in 10 years nobody cares anymore as a potato will get good results but today that aint the case sadly. its a fantastic game and worth to play even with these limitations but i cant deny the performance is a bummer

[Moonvalley]

Originally posted by Mirona:

Originally posted by Moonvalley:

I have an LG C2 Oled tv.

Apparently whoever ported this game lacked talent. Oh well.

4k with that gpu maybe mid to low setting and a 30 fps cap. dunno to be honest. gotta try. when using a 30 fps cap i highly recommend using a controller and motion blur. starting from 60 a mouse can be much more fun though. but a mouse at 30 is pain imho

the game can look stunning at times and can run well on strong hardware but for a game that came originally from the ps3 the game does not scale well down and compared to a ps5 needs alot of horsepower to match a ps5. i dont want to start an argument about how well the game is made but for many people the situation could be better. in 10 years nobody cares anymore as a potato will get good results but today that aint the case sadly. its a fantastic game and worth to play even with these limitations but i cant deny the performance is a bummer

As a Switch owner who conquered Hogwarts Legacy and Outer Worlds at 540p 15 fps, i fear nothing 😅

[Mirona]

well then you are good to go i guess ^^

[WeirdScienceX]

Originally posted by Moonvalley:

Originally posted by WeirdScienceX:

Okay, why are you buying AM5 platform therefore future proofing your PC but then buying an 8Gb graphic card which is the min needed for current games but most need more.

Because i can?

Any game that uses more than 8gb of vram is poorly designed and i will acquire from the high seas if it's cracked.

I try to not support lazy devs.

Not really, games are commonly targeted for console generations, the PS4 for example had 8 Gb, the PS5 has 16 shared. So game devs won't cut corners as much as it's not needed.

12Gb should be minimum these days, if you buy less, you're just wasting your money

[azogthedefiler25]

Originally posted by WeirdScienceX:

Originally posted by Moonvalley:

Because i can?

Any game that uses more than 8gb of vram is poorly designed and i will acquire from the high seas if it's cracked.

I try to not support lazy devs.

Not really, games are commonly targeted for console generations, the PS4 for example had 8 Gb, the PS5 has 16 shared. So game devs won't cut corners as much as it's not needed.

12Gb should be minimum these days, if you buy less, you're just wasting your money

What kind of gpu do you have? 12gb minmum sounds ridiculous.

[Pootang pie]

You will be fine @1440 or 1080p I have a less powerful gpu then u and on max settings on my comp is smooth as butter

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by azogthedefiler25:

Originally posted by WeirdScienceX:

Not really, games are commonly targeted for console generations, the PS4 for example had 8 Gb, the PS5 has 16 shared. So game devs won't cut corners as much as it's not needed.

12Gb should be minimum these days, if you buy less, you're just wasting your money

What kind of gpu do you have? 12gb minmum sounds ridiculous.

No, it is not. At 1080 P or 1440P 8 GB might be still ok, but at 4K it is not. There 12 GB should be the absolute minimum you have and 16 GB is optimal. Anything above is headroom for the coming years. So, if you plan to upgrade to 4K anytime in the next 2-3 years to 4K below 12 GB is not enough at all. Even at 1440P 8 GB will be limiting (already the case now, depending on the games). This is not only less optimization but also ever more visual effects. Nvidias all praised RT (a little irony here) needs a lot of VRAM if you want to use it, even with upscaling. And this also increases with higher resolution.

8 GB GPUs really should not be sold or bought anymore, especially in the 250-400 $/Euro range. It is ridiculous coming from the game requirements and foreseeable developments in games industry. Better to buy somewhat more expensive and keep it longer otherwise you will upgrade your now useless 8 GB GPU in 2 years again. Always assuming that at some point you get a higher resolution monitors and/or you want to play recent games.

Btw I bought a RX 7900XT with 20 GB VRAM because I do not care for Ray tracing and wanted to have high fidelity 4 K graphics at 60-100 FPS. The Last of us uses 12-16 GB VRAM for this. With an Nvidia GPU perhaps somewhat less (maybe 10-14 GB). Many other games I have use 8-12 GB VRAM, also older ones.

[Pootang pie]

Originally posted by Zephyr:

Originally posted by azogthedefiler25:

What kind of gpu do you have? 12gb minmum sounds ridiculous.

No, it is not. At 1080 P or 1440P 8 GB might be still ok, but at 4K it is not. There 12 GB should be the absolute minimum you have and 16 GB is optimal. Anything above is headroom for the coming years. So, if you plan to upgrade to 4K anytime in the next 2-3 years to 4K below 12 GB is not enough at all. Even at 1440P 8 GB will be limiting (already the case now, depending on the games). This is not only less optimization but also ever more visual effects. Nvidias all praised RT (a little irony here) needs a lot of VRAM if you want to use it, even with upscaling. And this also increases with higher resolution.

8 GB GPUs really should not be sold or bought anymore, especially in the 250-400 $/Euro range. It is ridiculous coming from the game requirements and foreseeable developments in games industry. Better to buy somewhat more expensive and keep it longer otherwise you will upgrade your now useless 8 GB GPU in 2 years again. Always assuming that at some point you get a higher resolution monitors and<7or you want to play recent games.

Btw I bought a RX 7900XT with 20 GB VRAM because I do not care for Ray tracing and wanted to have high fidelity 4 K graphics at 60-100 FPS. The Last of us uses 12-16 GB VRAM for this. With an Nvidia GPU perhaps somewhat less (maybe 10-14 GB). Many other games I have use 8-12 GB VRAM, also older ones.

Until ray tracing is required for games 12 gb is overkill and no it does not use 12-16 gb of vram

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by Pootang pie:

Originally posted by Zephyr:

No, it is not. At 1080 P or 1440P 8 GB might be still ok, but at 4K it is not. There 12 GB should be the absolute minimum you have and 16 GB is optimal. Anything above is headroom for the coming years. So, if you plan to upgrade to 4K anytime in the next 2-3 years to 4K below 12 GB is not enough at all. Even at 1440P 8 GB will be limiting (already the case now, depending on the games). This is not only less optimization but also ever more visual effects. Nvidias all praised RT (a little irony here) needs a lot of VRAM if you want to use it, even with upscaling. And this also increases with higher resolution.

8 GB GPUs really should not be sold or bought anymore, especially in the 250-400 $/Euro range. It is ridiculous coming from the game requirements and foreseeable developments in games industry. Better to buy somewhat more expensive and keep it longer otherwise you will upgrade your now useless 8 GB GPU in 2 years again. Always assuming that at some point you get a higher resolution monitors and<7or you want to play recent games.

Btw I bought a RX 7900XT with 20 GB VRAM because I do not care for Ray tracing and wanted to have high fidelity 4 K graphics at 60-100 FPS. The Last of us uses 12-16 GB VRAM for this. With an Nvidia GPU perhaps somewhat less (maybe 10-14 GB). Many other games I have use 8-12 GB VRAM, also older ones.

Until ray tracing is required for games 12 gb is overkill and no it does not use 12-16 gb of vram

Any questions?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3166809707
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3166827048
Allocated 15.6 GB-16.5 GB used 12.6 GB-13.5 GB. This is not even with the highest settings at 4K (no upscaling used). Nvidia GPUs behave a little differently which is why I said 10-14 GB for them. Should be accurate more or less. On a positive note the last patches seem to have improved VRAM use a little. Now the game likely tops out at 14 GB VRAM used :). Still, 12 GB is already stretching it at 4K. Depending how the industry develops it will be borderline in a few years with and without ray tracing. Other ports like Resident evil 4 or Horizon Zero dawn behave similarly, and even by now older titles like Shadow of the Tomb Raider uses nearly 8 GB. Cyberpunk uses 8-10 GB at 4K with better texture mods and without upscaling, no ray tracing.