TLOU part 2 is a absolutely PATHETIC story (MAJOR SPOILERS)

[Frost]

Biggest killers of the game:

1. Not that Joel dies, but HOW he dies: The writer ignores how he's very aware to avoid trusting anyone else so easily and is never caught off guard. Yet he trusts a large group of armed people he's never seen before, stands in the middle of them all instead of at the edge being wary, even acts like he's clueless with "you sound like you've heard of me - i cannot imagine WHY ANYONE would have heard of me or be looking for me" and dies an idiot death

2. He doesn't say "I just saved your life" or "He came at me with a knife and would not let me take her without coming at me with a knife" or "He was going to kill a child without her knowledge or consent". He says nothing.

3. When you finally get to the moment you were waiting for: the confrontation: Oh wait, go back 10 hours and start over (rather than have both stories progress back and forth like they did initially before Joel died - you know, a climax)

4. You are FORCED to play as Abby and couldn't care about her in the least.

5. You are FORCED to now beat the crap out of ELLIE USING the character you still hate: Abby. It's more fun to just lose and watch Abby die a dozen times, which is more proof this was a pathetic game decision. Let people control Ellie and you "win" by surviving so long to then show the "you lose" cutscene (star wars: survivor does this with your first fight with Bode - you can't win that fight, so you eventually "lose" and it works. They don't make you fight against the main character playing as Bode).

6. You FINALLY get to play as ELLIE against Abby to finish out the game and you can't wait for that final showdown. You've slaughtered hundreds of people. You finally can kill the girl who so brutally and viciously TORTURED Bill before killing him, but instead "Oh, never mind. Violence is not the answer. Even though I've just slaughtered hundreds of people and tortured others to find you, I've decided violence is not the answer. You can go on with your life now - I no longer care that you tortured Bill in a most horrific manner before putting a golf club through his skull while I was watching BEGGING you not to - have a nice life!"

You have to be pretty clueless to write the game this way.

I tried playing the story a second time, and it's just too pathetic as I try to force myself to "enjoy" it.

"no return" is interesting as the game handles combat very well, but how disgusting they let the writer utterly destroy what instead could have been an amazing game/story.

Please get someone else who has a clue to write TLOU part 3. Maybe that will actually be something better than a disgusting trashing of what any mediocre person could have easily made a great story about in TLOU2.

[NuclearSnail]

I think the story just went way over your head.

[WeirdScienceX]

Ursprungligen skrivet av LunarSail:

I think the story just went way over your head.

This type of story has been done many times before both in printed media and visually. It was poorly implemented in game.

[m_hw0]

I'm so desperate that I'd be okay if it turned out that all the part 2 were just a dream or some lame twist

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Ursprungligen skrivet av m_hw0:

I'm so desperate that I'd be okay if it turned out that all the part 2 were just a dream or some lame twist

I doubt it, they’ll probably make Abby the sole protagonist of Part 3 just to annoy people who disliked the second game. I think it would have been more acceptable to many players if we could’ve just been allowed to drown her. But the point of the whole thing is that your supposed to empathize with Abby and therefore not want to drown her because ultimately Ellie and Abby are the same and both acting out of revenge for the loss of their respective fathers (through no fault of their own). I think the journey is somewhat messy but I can ultimately get behind the destination.

[m_hw0]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Jedimindtrickonyou:

Ursprungligen skrivet av m_hw0:

I'm so desperate that I'd be okay if it turned out that all the part 2 were just a dream or some lame twist

I doubt it, they’ll probably make Abby the sole protagonist of Part 3 just to annoy people who disliked the second game. I think it would have been more acceptable to many players if we could’ve just been allowed to drown her. But the point of the whole thing is that your supposed to empathize with Abby and therefore not want to drown her because ultimately Ellie and Abby are the same and both acting out of revenge for the loss of their respective fathers (through no fault of their own). I think the journey is somewhat messy but I can ultimately get behind the destination.

I will empathize with ♥♥♥♥♥ not being able to go to Haven before I empathize with Abby. Why the hell did they think I would empathize with Abby knowing that I do not care about her or her father? and the game keeps showing you her past as an excuse, everyone has an excuse, nobody cares about yours

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Ursprungligen skrivet av m_hw0:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Jedimindtrickonyou:

I doubt it, they’ll probably make Abby the sole protagonist of Part 3 just to annoy people who disliked the second game. I think it would have been more acceptable to many players if we could’ve just been allowed to drown her. But the point of the whole thing is that your supposed to empathize with Abby and therefore not want to drown her because ultimately Ellie and Abby are the same and both acting out of revenge for the loss of their respective fathers (through no fault of their own). I think the journey is somewhat messy but I can ultimately get behind the destination.

I will empathize with ♥♥♥♥♥ not being able to go to Haven before I empathize with Abby. Why the hell did they think I would empathize with Abby knowing that I do not care about her or her father? and the game keeps showing you her past as an excuse, everyone has an excuse, nobody cares about yours

That just makes you sound incredibly stubborn about the whole thing and insisting on missing the point. I have a hard time believing you played through the second game in full even once if that’s all you can say about it. Pretty sure you’re guaranteed to hate any subsequent TLOU sequels or standalone games from Naughty Dog with the current studio leadership as it stands today.

[Raider Deci]

So take it up in the part 2-forum