TLOU part 2 is a absolutely PATHETIC story (MAJOR SPOILERS)

[Frost]

Biggest killers of the game:

1. Not that Joel dies, but HOW he dies: The writer ignores how he's very aware to avoid trusting anyone else so easily and is never caught off guard. Yet he trusts a large group of armed people he's never seen before, stands in the middle of them all instead of at the edge being wary, even acts like he's clueless with "you sound like you've heard of me - i cannot imagine WHY ANYONE would have heard of me or be looking for me" and dies an idiot death

2. He doesn't say "I just saved your life" or "He came at me with a knife and would not let me take her without coming at me with a knife" or "He was going to kill a child without her knowledge or consent". He says nothing.

3. When you finally get to the moment you were waiting for: the confrontation: Oh wait, go back 10 hours and start over (rather than have both stories progress back and forth like they did initially before Joel died - you know, a climax)

4. You are FORCED to play as Abby and couldn't care about her in the least.

5. You are FORCED to now beat the crap out of ELLIE USING the character you still hate: Abby. It's more fun to just lose and watch Abby die a dozen times, which is more proof this was a pathetic game decision. Let people control Ellie and you "win" by surviving so long to then show the "you lose" cutscene (star wars: survivor does this with your first fight with Bode - you can't win that fight, so you eventually "lose" and it works. They don't make you fight against the main character playing as Bode).

6. You FINALLY get to play as ELLIE against Abby to finish out the game and you can't wait for that final showdown. You've slaughtered hundreds of people. You finally can kill the girl who so brutally and viciously TORTURED Bill before killing him, but instead "Oh, never mind. Violence is not the answer. Even though I've just slaughtered hundreds of people and tortured others to find you, I've decided violence is not the answer. You can go on with your life now - I no longer care that you tortured Bill in a most horrific manner before putting a golf club through his skull while I was watching BEGGING you not to - have a nice life!"

You have to be pretty clueless to write the game this way.

I tried playing the story a second time, and it's just too pathetic as I try to force myself to "enjoy" it.

"no return" is interesting as the game handles combat very well, but how disgusting they let the writer utterly destroy what instead could have been an amazing game/story.

Please get someone else who has a clue to write TLOU part 3. Maybe that will actually be something better than a disgusting trashing of what any mediocre person could have easily made a great story about in TLOU2.

[GamerGate Valkyrie]

because he had to die in a humiliation way. why? because of course a second strong female character protagonist that no body cares about. Stupid Woke Sh|t.

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Originally posted by Lazy Incompetent Naughty Dog:

because he had to die in a humiliation way. why? because of course a second strong female character protagonist that no body cares about. Stupid Woke Sh|t.

Why join a nuanced, complex conversation if you’re just gonna leave short, stupid comments? Saying nothing at all would have contributed the same amount.

[tallgeese]

Originally posted by Lazy Incompetent Naughty Dog:

because he had to die in a humiliation way. why? because of course a second strong female character protagonist that no body cares about. Stupid Woke Sh|t.

pretty sure he died in a brutal way because TLOU is a brutal world. nothing humiliating about it. he went out like a boss, didn't even beg for mercy. told them to get it over with. man was a G.

the fact that you are hung up on the fact that he was killed by a woman reveals that women don't talk to you much. these views on women only flourish when the person has never interacted with normal women for most of their lives.

[azogthedefiler25]

^"the fact that you are hung up on the fact that he was killed by a woman reveals that women don't talk to you much. these views on women only flourish when the person has never interacted with normal women for most of their lives."

How in the hell did you come up with that conclusion?

[North_Dumpling]

I will buy TLOU II when its out on PC and enjoy it so you can have a mental breakdown.

[VDRSK]

I loved TLOU2 It was masterfully crafted and the gore is phenomenal listening to the NPC's call out the names of the dead and such it makes it that much more satisfying.

The only thing I have an issue with is that Ellie didn't kill Abby, the making of documentary showed they want to show the cycle of revenge and show Ellie breaking it and forgiving, however I would have preferred if Ellie killed Abby.
*OR*
Abby managed to kill Ellie preferably by drowning her so her death isn't fast to show the brutality of this world that ending would have made this game possibly my favourite narrative driven game of all item. I live for those type of "your beloved characters aren't safe"

[Tommy Wiseau]

Hes right its trash, just pretend the last of us 2 dosnt exist and dont go anywhere near it, you will thank me.

[azogthedefiler25]

Originally posted by VDRSK:

I loved TLOU2 It was masterfully crafted and the gore is phenomenal listening to the NPC's call out the names of the dead and such it makes it that much more satisfying.

The only thing I have an issue with is that Ellie didn't kill Abby, the making of documentary showed they want to show the cycle of revenge and show Ellie breaking it and forgiving, however I would have preferred if Ellie killed Abby.
*OR*
Abby managed to kill Ellie preferably by drowning her so her death isn't fast to show the brutality of this world that ending would have made this game possibly my favourite narrative driven game of all item. I live for those type of "your beloved characters aren't safe"

We should've been given an option to drown Abby. They must have something big planned for the next game and didn't want to deal with making two possible branches. And I doubt Abby would've been able to bite off Ellie's fingers. She might've been able to crush the bone but I doubt she would've bitten it off as easily as she did.

[VDRSK]

Originally posted by azogthedefiler25:

We should've been given an option to drown Abby. They must have something big planned for the next game and didn't want to deal with making two possible branches. And I doubt Abby would've been able to bite off Ellie's fingers. She might've been able to crush the bone but I doubt she would've bitten it off as easily as she did.

Naughty Dog aren't ones to have multiple endings, but regardless it isn't uncommon for games to have a canon ending when making a sequel so they could just choose to canonise the ending where abby doesn't die

[azogthedefiler25]

^ I get that. That's why I said they must have something good planned for the third game.

[BubbaLovesYa-TTV]

ITT: "Joel was bad because he didn't let doctor's do human experimentation on a 14 year old girl, so he deserved to die."

[Sharkon]

I'm with you there. as much as I love TLOU (played it on PS3/PS4 and now on PC) I really don't like the plot of Part 2. unfortunatly the game itself is brilliant and a step up from the first game in pretty much every way...well, except for that stupid plot.

[Tommy Wiseau✔]

you're a couple years too late pal. Nobody is going to read that wall of text.

[Republic of Lamers]

I just finished playing TLOU2 Remastered on PS5, and I am in love with the game. I liked it better than part 1. So many people irl and online told me it was trash ... I'm so glad I played it anyway.

[Barricade]

I personally liked how unconventional and unpredictable the story was. It played against the typical tropes and kept it exciting.

It felt like a Cohen brothers movie where ♥♥♥♥ happens out of nowhere. Yet, isn't completely random and tells a strong message about life and death. In this case, the endless cycle of revenge. I like that. It felt realistic.

TLOU2 also points out hypocrisy. If you can relate to Ellies desire for revenge and not Abbys. Then you are a hypocrite. TLOU2 does what it's designed to do. Trigger hypocrites.

This is why it's a masterpiece.