ULTRA SETTINGS OBSESSION

[Corso]

Needs to end.
People are looking at this game all wrong. This is a remaster, it is not built like the original PS4 title.
The graphics options are far more advanced and this is a CPU heavy game.
If you aren't running TOP LINE hardware, there is no shame in running the game on "High/Medium" settings. This includes texture resolutions.
I am currently testing the game out on All high/medium/(and some misc low settings) and the game looks fantastic and is running 100+ fps on 1080p at native resolution.
It looks easily 4x better than the PS4 classic, running at higher frames.

The point of this post is, don't be too obsessed with running everything on ULTRA for the sake of seeing "ultra" on your screen. Many of the options can be scaled down a notch with almost no noticeable difference in image quality but large gains in performance. And even at all medium settings the game will still look better than it's PS4 predecessor.

Relax, fans of the game, and play it on settings that work for you. It's about the game itself, not about wear-and-tear-maxxing your PC out on a game you've played 5 times already on the console collecting dust in your closet.

[-=PR=-moon knight]

I can run Cyberpunk at Ultra 1440p DLSS quality at 60 fps rock solid with flat frame times, all with a 3060ti, but I can't run this linear game at Ultra with the same GPU. It's outrageous lack of optimization

[Oz Gaming]

Far too many people seemed to be Obsessed with cranking their graphic settings right up to Ultra on every game they play even if their computer can't handle it.
Every game I have I only use High. Why ??? Because that's enough. Even though I could put it on Ultra.

[mhmtkfz]

My laptop with i7 13700 HX processor, 32 gb RAM, 1 tb nvme ssd and rtx 4070 graphics card drops up to 24 fps at ultra settings.I play perfectly hogwarts legacy, calllisto protocol, god of war, spiderman and miles morales, rdr 2,resident evil 4 remake and many current games at ultra settings with 2k resolution and dlss turned off, but I can't say the same for tlou.The game with the most disgraceful optimization I've ever seen in my life.You said that the native resolution of the game is 1080p, but my monitor is 2K and games look terrible at 1080p resolution.And I don't get low FPS in any game I play except The Last of Us with DLSS turned off at ultra settings.It's deplorable that you try to give such cheap explanations for the terrible optimization of The Last Of Us.

[Devsman]

This is a remake.

And the original is for PS3.

[Corso]

Originally posted by -=PR=-moon knight:

I can run Cyberpunk at Ultra 1440p DLSS quality at 60 fps rock solid with flat frame times, all with a 3060ti, but I can't run this linear game at Ultra with the same GPU. It's outrageous lack of optimization

CP2077 is a) on a different game engine
b) had a horrid release
c) CDPR has spent over $100,000,000 fixing it to get it to where it is 3 full years in. Think about that.
Last of us part 1 isn't broken, and it's not making 100 million to begin with to bring it to spec for entry level hardware like 3060ti's.

[tried]

I think it's safe to say this game has been optimized for awhile. I can run this game perfectly fine. Even when it launched I somewhat was able to reach bills town before I just waited for patches

[Corso]

Originally posted by mhmtkfz:

My laptop with i7 13700 HX processor, 32 gb RAM, 1 tb nvme ssd and rtx 4070 graphics card drops up to 24 fps at ultra settings.I play perfectly hogwarts legacy, calllisto protocol, god of war, spiderman and miles morales, rdr 2,resident evil 4 remake and many current games at ultra settings with 2k resolution and dlss turned off, but I can't say the same for tlou.The game with the most disgraceful optimization I've ever seen in my life.You said that the native resolution of the game is 1080p, but my monitor is 2K and games look terrible at 1080p resolution.And I don't get low FPS in any game I play except The Last of Us with DLSS turned off at ultra settings.It's deplorable that you try to give such cheap explanations for the terrible optimization of The Last Of Us.

Your laptop uses mobile versions of hardware with extremely low power draw and bad cooling. It will never achieve performance of full desktop hardware.

This is not Hogwartz.

There are a lot of systems at play on the the LOUP2 game engine.

The game isn't poorly optimised it's very complex, and likely, pushing graphics to ultra is pushing the game engine itself to certain extremes that the engine isn't optimised for, yet.
Game engines have limitations. Clearly, ND gave PC users the option to push the engine to those limits.
The game itself runs just fine if you use settings that the engine itself can handle. In fact, if you have powerful enough hardware the game runs just fine maxing out the engine's limitations as well.

[-=PR=-moon knight]

Originally posted by Corso:

Originally posted by -=PR=-moon knight:

I can run Cyberpunk at Ultra 1440p DLSS quality at 60 fps rock solid with flat frame times, all with a 3060ti, but I can't run this linear game at Ultra with the same GPU. It's outrageous lack of optimization

CP2077 is a) on a different game engine
b) had a horrid release
c) CDPR has spent over $100,000,000 fixing it to get it to where it is 3 full years in. Think about that.
Last of us part 1 isn't broken, and it's not making 100 million to begin with to bring it to spec for entry level hardware like 3060ti's.

Cyberpunk was perfectly optimized even at launch, the problem with it were the bugs and unfinished features

[Corso]

Originally posted by -=PR=-moon knight:

Originally posted by Corso:

CP2077 is a) on a different game engine
b) had a horrid release
c) CDPR has spent over $100,000,000 fixing it to get it to where it is 3 full years in. Think about that.
Last of us part 1 isn't broken, and it's not making 100 million to begin with to bring it to spec for entry level hardware like 3060ti's.

Cyberpunk was perfectly optimized even at launch, the problem with it were the bugs and unfinished features

That's not what CDPR has come out and said. Sorry I'll take their word for it over yours.

[Corso]

Originally posted by Devsman:

This is a remake.

And the original is for PS3.

Remake implies entirely new game built from the ground up. This is not that. It's the original assets rigged onto a newer version of their game engine. It's a reMASTER.
System Shock remake is a remake. Built from the ground up.
Yes you're right original was PS3. Splitting hairs at this point.
Last of us sold 6 million copies on ps3 but 10 million copies on ps4. And, it was still the original game regardless. It wasn't a remaster, like the PC version is. stay salty and ignorant.

[Devsman]

Originally posted by Corso:

Originally posted by Devsman:

This is a remake.

And the original is for PS3.

Remake implies entirely new game built from the ground up. This is not that. It's the original assets rigged onto a newer version of their game engine. It's a reMASTER.
System Shock remake is a remake. Built from the ground up.
Yes you're right original was PS3. Splitting hairs at this point.
Last of us sold 6 million copies on ps3 but 10 million copies on ps4. And, it was still the original game regardless. It wasn't a remaster, like the PC version is. stay salty and ignorant.

I guess that's what I get for believing marketing. The PS3 version is the only one I've actually played, so when they called the PS4 release TLoU Remastered, I believed them. Similar thing happened with this release, which I read somewhere or other was supposed to be a remake.

[mhmtkfz]

Originally posted by Corso:

Originally posted by mhmtkfz:

My laptop with i7 13700 HX processor, 32 gb RAM, 1 tb nvme ssd and rtx 4070 graphics card drops up to 24 fps at ultra settings.I play perfectly hogwarts legacy, calllisto protocol, god of war, spiderman and miles morales, rdr 2,resident evil 4 remake and many current games at ultra settings with 2k resolution and dlss turned off, but I can't say the same for tlou.The game with the most disgraceful optimization I've ever seen in my life.You said that the native resolution of the game is 1080p, but my monitor is 2K and games look terrible at 1080p resolution.And I don't get low FPS in any game I play except The Last of Us with DLSS turned off at ultra settings.It's deplorable that you try to give such cheap explanations for the terrible optimization of The Last Of Us.

Your laptop uses mobile versions of hardware with extremely low power draw and bad cooling. It will never achieve performance of full desktop hardware.

This is not Hogwartz.

There are a lot of systems at play on the the LOUP2 game engine.

The game isn't poorly optimised it's very complex, and likely, pushing graphics to ultra is pushing the game engine itself to certain extremes that the engine isn't optimised for, yet.
Game engines have limitations. Clearly, ND gave PC users the option to push the engine to those limits.
The game itself runs just fine if you use settings that the engine itself can handle. In fact, if you have powerful enough hardware the game runs just fine maxing out the engine's limitations as well.

You still continue to shamelessly defend this disgraceful optimization? And not only against me, but against everyone who criticizes the game. You are most likely an Iron Galaxy or Naughty Dog employee. Also, unlike The Last Of Us, Hogwarts Legacy has an open world and magnificent graphics, and yet I play this game at ultra settings with dlss off and 2k resolution without any problems.Also, you made such a comment that those who read your comment will think that my laptop is very weak. If I had a laptop as weak as you claim, how could I play all these games, except The Last of Us, at ultra settings, at 2K resolution and with DLSS turned off, without any problems?

[Corso]

Originally posted by mhmtkfz:

Originally posted by Corso:

Your laptop uses mobile versions of hardware with extremely low power draw and bad cooling. It will never achieve performance of full desktop hardware.

This is not Hogwartz.

There are a lot of systems at play on the the LOUP2 game engine.

The game isn't poorly optimised it's very complex, and likely, pushing graphics to ultra is pushing the game engine itself to certain extremes that the engine isn't optimised for, yet.
Game engines have limitations. Clearly, ND gave PC users the option to push the engine to those limits.
The game itself runs just fine if you use settings that the engine itself can handle. In fact, if you have powerful enough hardware the game runs just fine maxing out the engine's limitations as well.

You still continue to shamelessly defend this disgraceful optimization? And not only against me, but against everyone who criticizes the game. You are most likely an Iron Galaxy or Naughty Dog employee. Also, unlike The Last Of Us, Hogwarts Legacy has an open world and magnificent graphics, and yet I play this game at ultra settings with dlss off and 2k resolution without any problems.Also, you made such a comment that those who read your comment will think that my laptop is very weak. If I had a laptop as weak as you claim, how could I play all these games, except The Last of Us, at ultra settings, at 2K resolution and with DLSS turned off, without any problems?

No offense but your laptop is ♥♥♥♥. It always will be, because it's a laptop.

The game is properly optimised to run on optimal settings. The game engine gets pushed to the max when you ultra everything out. Hell it uses more than 12gb Vram. People seem to forget that. You are using more than your max Vram on a 4070 and wonder why you're having performance issues, calling it "bad optimisation". The game runs fine.
Push a game engine to it's max and you will run into issues.
People, like you, are misrepresenting poor game optimisation for pushing an engine to it's absolute limits.
You can do this with any game engine. Last of us part 1 REMASTER (it's not a remake) is optimised.
Yes, everyone crying that it isn't is wrong. Literally all the thousands of them are wrong. They just expect too much. The PC port on the new engine, on MEDIUM settings looks infinitely better than the PS4 version of the game but it's not enough for (laptop users like you) PC gamers. They NEED to run it on "ULTRA!!!!!" it's pathetic. Ultra settings for this game on this game engine is pushing into experimental territory. "Use at your own risk".
And your laptop still sucks btw.

[mhmtkfz]

Originally posted by Corso:

Originally posted by mhmtkfz:

You still continue to shamelessly defend this disgraceful optimization? And not only against me, but against everyone who criticizes the game. You are most likely an Iron Galaxy or Naughty Dog employee. Also, unlike The Last Of Us, Hogwarts Legacy has an open world and magnificent graphics, and yet I play this game at ultra settings with dlss off and 2k resolution without any problems.Also, you made such a comment that those who read your comment will think that my laptop is very weak. If I had a laptop as weak as you claim, how could I play all these games, except The Last of Us, at ultra settings, at 2K resolution and with DLSS turned off, without any problems?

No offense but your laptop is ♥♥♥♥. It always will be, because it's a laptop.

The game is properly optimised to run on optimal settings. The game engine gets pushed to the max when you ultra everything out. Hell it uses more than 12gb Vram. People seem to forget that. You are using more than your max Vram on a 4070 and wonder why you're having performance issues, calling it "bad optimisation". The game runs fine.
Push a game engine to it's max and you will run into issues.
People, like you, are misrepresenting poor game optimisation for pushing an engine to it's absolute limits.
You can do this with any game engine. Last of us part 1 REMASTER (it's not a remake) is optimised.
Yes, everyone crying that it isn't is wrong. Literally all the thousands of them are wrong. They just expect too much. The PC port on the new engine, on MEDIUM settings looks infinitely better than the PS4 version of the game but it's not enough for (laptop users like you) PC gamers. They NEED to run it on "ULTRA!!!!!" it's pathetic. Ultra settings for this game on this game engine is pushing into experimental territory. "Use at your own risk".
And your laptop still sucks btw.

Even your profile photo is Naughty Dog... Even if you are a Naughty Dog employee, I cannot understand how you defend its optimization, which is the most criticized aspect of this game, with such madness.Also, my laptop, which you describe as "sucks", can run all games without any problems at ultra settings, 2k resolution and dlss off, except for The Last of Us, which you defend to the point of pathology.Not only me but many people have serious problems with optimization. Your claim to the contrary will not change this fact.

[Corso]

Originally posted by mhmtkfz:

Originally posted by Corso:

No offense but your laptop is ♥♥♥♥. It always will be, because it's a laptop.

The game is properly optimised to run on optimal settings. The game engine gets pushed to the max when you ultra everything out. Hell it uses more than 12gb Vram. People seem to forget that. You are using more than your max Vram on a 4070 and wonder why you're having performance issues, calling it "bad optimisation". The game runs fine.
Push a game engine to it's max and you will run into issues.
People, like you, are misrepresenting poor game optimisation for pushing an engine to it's absolute limits.
You can do this with any game engine. Last of us part 1 REMASTER (it's not a remake) is optimised.
Yes, everyone crying that it isn't is wrong. Literally all the thousands of them are wrong. They just expect too much. The PC port on the new engine, on MEDIUM settings looks infinitely better than the PS4 version of the game but it's not enough for (laptop users like you) PC gamers. They NEED to run it on "ULTRA!!!!!" it's pathetic. Ultra settings for this game on this game engine is pushing into experimental territory. "Use at your own risk".
And your laptop still sucks btw.

Even your profile photo is Naughty Dog... Even if you are a Naughty Dog employee, I cannot understand how you defend its optimization, which is the most criticized aspect of this game, with such madness.Also, my laptop, which you describe as "sucks", can run all games without any problems at ultra settings, 2k resolution and dlss off, except for The Last of Us, which you defend to the point of pathology.Not only me but many people have serious problems with optimization. Your claim to the contrary will not change this fact.

imagine you actually got to speak to a ND employee wow. how lucky you'd be i guess.
it's not me.
your laptop sucks. "it can run every game like silk except last of us remaster". sounds like a you problem.
games running fine on my desktop pc which has similar, albeit, better specs than yours. (my CPU is liquid cooled and my GPU isn't a mobile unit).
The game itself is optimised. what you lesser laptop gamers don't understand about game development, is that the engine has limitations.
i'll restate this for you, the game is optimised. the engine, if you try and run it at ultra, is pushing it's limits.
that's a you problem and an engine problem. i have a 12gb video card. the game runs at 7.5gb of 12gb space used. it runs amazing. im alt tabbed typing this. no crashes. nothing.
if you run the game within nominal specs of your (♥♥♥♥♥♥ laptop) pc verses what the engine can perform with your hardware, it runs great.
this game is optimised.
for your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ laptop? maybe not. for 4090's? maybe not. because it doesnt matter about hardware, it matters about ENGINE LIMITATION.
salt cry more. seethe. cope. didnt ask. dont care.
your opinions are just cope.